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CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper May 28, 2015

Also today he hopped into the cockpit of a private plane with his young son ignoring air Traffic Control and crashing the plane. Want until you hear what police say he was doing before he got behind the controls. Good afternoon afternoon. Welcome to the lead everyone. Im jake tapper. A disturbing and unprecedented admission upon the people we count to protect us from tear rage. Tear original. The fbi asking for help dealing with the huge surge of isis sympathizers here in the u. S. Some perhaps online loners others could be quite dangerous and hellbent on carrying out an attack in the homeland. We have evidence this is a real problem. Evan perez joins me now. Part of this plea for help is an admission they did not have the man power to stop the shooting outside that cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad contest in garland, texas. Jake theyre facing two problems really. They cant stop what they cant see, and secondly they dont have enough people to keep an eye on what they say are hundreds of isis supporters that they think bear watching and so what theyre turning to the lapd and Los Angeles Police department increasing surveillance to help the fbi. Jim comey, director of the fbi, made an appeal really to Police Departments earlier this month on a secure Conference Call saying i need your help because theres too many of these people and as you said garland was the thing that brought it to mind. We asked mr. Comey a the a press conference in brooklyn about this. Heres what he had to say. What is an incredibly difficult task we are enlisting all federal and state and local partners in and i cant stand here with high confidence when i face a world thats continually dark and say ive got it covered. Saying dark talking about the use of encrypted communications, peer to Peer Communications they found that in the garland case. Elton simpson communicating with encrypted communications. Thats is what unnerved him, really and what theyre finding, jake, is that they dont have enough people. Each one of these suspects takes dozens of people to watch, and in this case in Elton Simpsons case they had fbi watching him, lost him for a couple of days. Didnt know he was headed to garland, texas, to carry out this attack. Wow. Evan perez, thank you so much. Lets talk more about this with cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd and ron hosco former director of the Investigations Division of the fbi. Thank you both for being here. Phil start with you. Is it unusual for the fbi to acknowledge that they are essentially overwhelmed by the task at hand . I think you should take this a step further. What we have here is not justify a Law Enforcement problem but a fundamental change in the way counterterrorism works. If youre at the krib kribcia or fbi threat table, youre looking at a place like pakistan mapping across the United States and advising fbi state locals et cetera periodically a player on your turf turf. Transitioning, across america, new york california arizona, a spreads al qaeda ideology beyond a few cases and we have a plea from the fbi director saying be my eyes and ears be, we cant focus on a few isolated plots from one core place in pakistan. So much is being done on social media and in enkrichtcrypted technology evan said. Right. A resource multiplier for the fbi. The fbi is very good at what it does however not ominousant and not omnipresent. If you can use the help of 800,000 state and local Law Enforcement officers to be additional eyes and ears very much a team effort. This isnt just Law Enforcement, isnt just the intelligence community, this is the community. This is citizens, looking for indicateors indicators. Looking for changes. The fbi acts based on indicators based on intelligence, and if you have millions of people looking and thinking about this as a possibility and sharing that information, then the fbi has an easier job of sorting through it and prioritizing. Phil has isis changed the way local police do their jobs . I think it has. Look how isis is transmitting communication. Back in the day, the message would be communicated face to face. Al qaeda had to talk to somebody in the 1990s, for example the at a camp in afghanistan. We need closed clandestine cells and keep them secret. Its hard to find operatives to get into the United States. Fastforward, 2015 isis is crowd sourcing terrorism. No effort to keep it secret. Tens of thousands read it. If 1 10 of 1,000 of them its a total change in the terrorism world and they win. The threat posed by isis will get worse before it gets better. What do you mean by that . As phil knows quite well from sitting around that table at fbi headquarters, once five ten years ago, we saw defined pathways to jihad, to violent extremism. Frequently that involved citizens here traveling to waziristan and nafada. Now the recruitment effort is on your tv screen on your computer at home. Penetrating not only who might be motivated but understanding their mindset and at any given time is extremely difficult. All right. Thank you both. Appreciate it. Also breaking in national we have learned that more than two dozen lab workers including four in the United States are now being traded for exposure to the deadly bacteria anthrax an that bizarre blunder by the u. S. Military. Live anthrax samples, we told you yesterday, mistakenly shipped by fed eddex by an army lab in utah and shipped to a military base in south korea. While the pentagon is stressing, there is no threat to the general public it is still quite inexplicable how a potentially deadly bioweapon could have been handled, really carelessly. Bring in cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. The centers for d. C. Isease control is involved. What role do they play . Reporter at this point thetaking the lead looking at everything the pentagon did. The problem is the pentagon doesnt know what it did. 22 shipments, all potentially live anthrax and worse, for over a year nobody knew it. The military now scrambling to explain how it could have happened. Its a great question and thats exactly why we brought in the center for Disease Control and their investigators. Reporter the army contracted with fedex for the shipments. The company says its working with the federal government. The anthrax was to be shipped as dead agent, supposedly a less dangerous form. That doesnt have much meaning to me. Anthrax can exist for decades, centuries, underground in a spore form. This hard crusted inatment form that eventually can change into an active poisonoustype form. Reporter weeks after the 9 11 attacks, letters laced with anthrax were sent killing five americans in what the fbi calms the worst biological attack in u. S. History. This time no indication of a deliberate act, and the pentagon says no one is sick. A growing investigation is spreading across nine states and overseas to ohaeea Osan Air Base receiving antibiotics and vaccinations after a potential exposure during a training exercise. They began medical care may 22nd, five days after the pentagon first received word it got live shipments not dead agent for research. The pentagon says its looking into why the late notification. The anthrax was in south korea for over a year. No one knowing it was live. It all began last year on march 18th, 2014 at dugway proving grounds, an army base in utah. A load of anthrax irradiated. The intent, to kill the live agent before shipment. Over the next year the material was divided into a number of lots and it was shipped 22 times until last friday when a maryland lab discovered it had live anthrax. Now look its really important to draw distinctions. In 25078 2001 loose agent in envelopes very much designed to harm people. This time the material was shipped in secure containers. The pentagon says. It should have been more secure because it was live agent, it was dead agent but still it was shipped in what the pentagon believes was a secure fashion. Nobody is sick but the bottom line is all of this under investigation, because the pentagon cannot be sure at this point exactly what it is dealing with. Jake . Barbara starr at the bening thank you so much. No relief in sight for parts of texas. Even a small amount of additional rain could mean an emergency situation. Downpours are now predicted for some of the hit areas already hardest hit and now one citys mayor is ordering evacuations hoping to save lives as the Colorado River gets close to overflowing, thats next. Big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. Doing the big things that move an economy. See you tomorrow, mac. See you tomorrow, sam. Just another day at norfolk southern. Great job k. Now lets get ready for the ball. Here it comes. Here you go. Good catch perfect alright, now for the best part. Lets see your pour. Ooo. Lets get those in the bowl these are way to good to waste right . ohhhh. Yeah lets go for it, around the bowl annnddd. Share what you love with who you love. 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Look behind me thats the blanco river, still running high even though its gone down considerably and not only getting rain in this area but anywhere north of there, upstream all the water will flow down like the river behind me and create problems across the region jake. Obviously, were most concerned about the loss of life in additional floods but this is also going to be a big challenge for the search crews still trying to find people . Reporter yeah. Absolutely. There are still eight people missing, and they have been out all day long for the past five days searching for people. And when it rains, that creates a problem. First of all, you dont want fluctuation in the liver level because of all of the debris they are sifting through. Down the river, they have debris piles as tall as these trees theyre going through. More rain it displaces some debrie and makes it really challenging. Three people identified one pending identification and one of the most recent ones we learned about today was Michelle Charba found the rest of her family unfortunately missing. Her husband, son and her parents. They told us today these crews will be out no matter what and will keep searching until the rest of the victims are found, jake. Jennifer its not just south texas getting the severe weather. The right . Reporter absolutely. In fact we had a tornado in the panhandle yesterday. In fact three people were injured from that. It hit an oil rig area and hit these houses what they call dog houses where they store their tools. Thats what was hit. The people had to be rushed to the hospital but it was so challenging, because the weather was still severe when theyre trying to get them to the hospital. One person describes it as seeming like tornadoes were touching down everywhere. He said the ambulances were trying to travel through the mud and the rain and the severe weather, trying to get these people help. It has ban wild week for weather, and it has been tragic here in wimberley, texas, with off the flooding and then weve had the tornadoes and so you know its been a rough week for the folks here but theyve all come together helping each other out and the search crews are determined to find the rest of the families 0 ut there. Jennifer gray thank you so much. Go now to wharton, texas, about 2. 5 hours closer to the gulf coast. The mayor there, domingo mantabo jr. Joins me on the phone. Mayor, thanks for joining us. As i understand it youre a lifelong wharton resident. Have you ever seen anything like this before . Well weve experienced some flooding like this before and fortunately, we can plan. Its we certainly our hearts go out to the folks with the flash flooding upon them and surprised them, but were very fortunate here to be able to plan. We have time to get folks out of harms way. As i understand it the concern are for those who live on the west side of wharton. Are most people listening to your calls and those from other emergency officials for voluntary evacuations . Yes, sir. I think thats the advantage of being born and raised here, and knowing most of the people. The people that live here in the community. They are taking heed to the warning. The other thing is we are a small community. So were able to touch every door in order to make sure that all of our citizens get the information, the correct information, and theyve been having a mass exodus out of that area, and were playraying we dont get nor rain because with the river up as it is if it rains in town the waters going to stay basically here in the town. Theres nowhere for the water to drain off to the reason the west side of your town there is the most concern about that part thats where the Colorado River runs alongside, and experts are saying that it could crest, the river, sometime friday night, maybe saturday. Are you prepared . Is your town ready to deal with this, if that happens . Yes, sir. Having experiences in 95 and several other floods here we were very prepared. Certainly when you face Mother Nature theres a lot of variables that come into it but were as prepared as we can be. We cant move the river, but we can certainly move the people out of the way. The fire chief expressed concern earlier today in that press conference where you two spoke, and the chief said that he was worried too many people in your town seemed to be taking their time packing, taking their time evacuating. Why is that . Well i know that theres been people ever since yesterday that have been packing up. We went and rode through the west part of wharton and saw a lot of people that were getting, moving out of the way. So its been my take that they are taking it seriously, and that were moving right along. All right. The National Weather service saying that many homes in your area already have three feet of flooding. Have you seen enough of a state and or federal response to the needs of the people of wharton, texas . You know having floods before we were always pleased with the response from the state and the federal government. And were extremely glad to have the cooperation of the river authority. The lcra lower Colorado River authority, and having worked and lived here and gone through it its kind of a weve had a lot of dress rehearsals in order to be able to affectively protect our citizens. All right. Wharton, texas, mayor, Domingo Montalvo jr. , our thoughts and prayers are with the people in the region in general. Thanks for talking to us. Thank you. Coming up d. C. 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