Transcripts For CNNW William Barr House Judiciary Hearing 20

Transcripts For CNNW William Barr House Judiciary Hearing 20200728

Top of the hour. Good morning, everyone. Im poppy harlow. And im jim sciutto. We begin this morning with breaking news. The start of attorney general bill barrs hearing before the Judiciary Committee is now being delayed 45 minutes, this after the chairman of that Committee Jerry Nadler was involved in a car accident. We should note he was not injured in that accident. Thats right. Were glad hes okay. Our senior Congressional Correspondent manu raju joins us on the hill with more to update us as we wait for the hearing begin. We know it will be delayed at least 45 minutes. Jerry nadler was involved in the car accident. He was not injured according to his spokesman. We dont know other details about the accident, if anyone else was injured or not, but this will essentially delay the start of this hearing, much anticipated hearing that the democrats will have are the first time in the house Judiciary Committee to question bill barr after previous appearances that had been scrapped. Bill barr at one point last year did not show up despite the democratic push to try to get him to appear, and they have a long list of grievances that the democrats plan to air about bill barr about their concerns that he mischaracterized the Mueller Report, about what they believe is him using the Justice Department to protect the president , his firing of a u. S. Attorney who was investigating some trump associates. Those are the range of issues that the democrats will press bill barr on. Bill barr contend the democrats in the committee are simply trying to discredit him for investigating the russia investigation that involved the president. Nevertheless, we expect this combative hearing to take place over the course of the day. We do expect it now to be delayed to start later in this hour because of that accident that jerry nadler was involved in, but it is something that we should well expect both sides to go at it all day long for this first time appearance by the attorney general before this democraticled committee. Guys . It will be worth watching, no question. Manu raju on the hill. Thank you. The nations top Infectious Disease expert dr. Fauci has now had to respond to the sitting president of the United States spreading once again false claims, disinformation about the coronavirus. Overnight the president retweeted claims that masks dont work and that hydroxychloroquine is a cure though the fda says otherwise. Heres dr. Fauci. We should all be Wearing Masks. How about hydroxychloroquine, the president promoting the effects of hydroxychloroquine. We know the fda has warned against emergency use. Exactly, and then i go along with the fda. The overwhelming prevailing Clinical Trials that have looked at the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine have indicated that it is not effective in coronavirus disease. That is the clearest possible statement on that. Believe dr. Fauci. The president is erasing any indications that he is following the science. He may be pivoting towards, even a few weeks ago. Even his Health Experts warned something needs to change now or the deaths will go much higher. Lets go to joe johns who joins us again at the white house this morning. Good morning, joe. Do we know why . I mean, what was the impetus for the multiple retweets from the president . Well, one possible explanation is that despite what the president has been told by the Coronavirus Task force, despite the thing that he has been advised by white house staffers, the president apparently Still Believes some of these things that he was saying before his big turnaround last week when he decided to wear a mask, decided to try to project, if you will, seriousness in the approach to coronavirus, but theres also the matter of dr. Faucis credibility, and there was that retweet suggesting fauci was misleading the public last night. That, of course, was something that fauci himself responded to in that very same interview. Listen. I dont tweet. I dont even read them. So i dont really want to go there. I just will continue to do my job no matter what comes out because i think its very important. Were in the middle of a crisis with regard to an epidemic, a pandemic. This is what i do. This is what ive been trained for my entire professional life, and ill continue to do it. To the charge youve been misleading the American Public . I have not been misleading the American Public under any circumstances. Reporter its just incoherent and a real problem for the messaging coming out of the white house about coronavirus, and it leads people down a dark hole about what to do and what not to do in general. Its just a problem also for the president even politically because frankly it affects his credibility which has been a problem all along. Back to you. Might expect it when he spreads deliberate disinformation about a deadly virus. So the president spreading that disinformation and even finding the need to lie about whether he was invited to throw out an opening pitch according to the New York Times at yankee stadium. What do we know . Reporter right. That obviously is another story. This is something that the New York Times reported on essentially saying that the president was upset about all of the publicity that dr. Fauci was getting when he threw out that pitch last week in the game between the Washington Nationals and the new york yankees. The president then indicating publicly that he, too, had been invited to throw out the first pitch at a yankees game. Apparently that was not true. While there was an open invitation to throw out a first pitch, they hadnt settled on a date at all so there was surprise among yankees organization, surprise here as the white house staffers tell us they didnt know anything about it, and then to make matters worse the president later essentially cancelled the invitation that he had given himself by saying hes going to be too busy dealing with the coronavirus. Jim . Okay. Joe johns, thank you very much for both of those updates. Lets go to florida now where intensive care units at 49 hospitals have reached capacity. Rosa flores is in miami beach with more. Lets begin with the numbers. Whats happening in the state right now . Reporter you know, poppy, hospitals are not really getting a break, especially right here in Miamidade County where i am. This is the epicenter of the crisisins this state accounting for 25 of the now more than 420,000 cases. Icus right now are operating at 142 . Just a week ago they were operating at 130 . What that means is that there are more patients than there are icu beds. Now the county says that they have more than 400 beds that they can convert into icus. When it comes to ventilator use thats up 50 in the past two weeks. The Positivity Rate in this county is ranging between 18 and 19 . The goal is not to exceed 10 . As we look statewide, there are 49 icu hospitals that are at capacity. That means zero icu beds and the Positivity Rate has been ranging from 13 to 18 . City of miami mayor suarez is holding a press conference and updating the public on the enforcement of Wearing Masks in his city. Again, he has mentioned that this is something that is working. Its a remediation measure thats helping. He says so far they have issued 177 tickets. Jim and poppy, you and i have been reporting on this ongoing battle whether or not to reopen schools in this state, and weve also learned that now theres an increase in the number of children infected with covid19. What were learning this morning from the city of miami and the university of miami, they are going to be providing free testing for children very soon by appointment only, but, again, going to the point of schools could be reopening in just a few weeks. They are giving options to parents about testing their children. Jim and poppy. The experts say it can be safe if you have the outbreak under control. The can be dangerous if you dont. Thats the key measure. Rosa flores in florida. Thanks very much. Now to california where coronavirus deaths sadly rising there. The governor telling residents to wake up. Cnns Stephanie Elam joins us now from los angeles. So this has been going for a couple of weeks now since california attempted reopening. Are the measures it took since then having an effect now in keeping this unwraps . Reporter weve definitely been Holding Steady, jim, but were Holding Steady at a higher rate than what the state would like to see. The Positivity Rate in the state is at 7. 5 . The number of new cases announced yesterday shot just high of 6,900. Weve had much higher numbers than that, but things are stabilizing but not where we would like to see them. Theres a part of the state, the central valley, really the major farming region of this state where they are seeing positive rates at about 18 . They are saying the transmission rate there are so high that the governor announcing yesterday that there are going to be three strike teams that go into three regions in eight counties there to help drive down the numbers there. These strike teams will basically bring in Emergency Services from the state. They will bring in Emergency Personnel and also aid for health care workers, more personnel in that arena as well. Making sure that they can isolate and quarantine, that there are the resources there for the people to do this. They are saying that is this is really because these are essential workers, they have been working nonstop. A lot of them live in multigenerational homes so they are seeing a lot of community spread. He says this is why it need to be targeted. This has been done in the state already. They did it in Imperial County in the far Southern Region where they saw the numbers spiking so trying to drive the numbers down. Here in los angeles county, something new that is going to be happening here as they are trying to fight it back. For one thing we dont need to go into a stricter athome order here, but what we do need to do is have people participate in Contact Tracing so what they are going to do is offer 20 gift cards next week so hopefully people will start answering those calls and questions. Jim and poppy. Thats a way to inventivize them to do it. Lets hope it works. Stephanie, thank you very much. Well, it did not take very long. Just when it appeared the president was starting to follow the science more on covid he derailed hopes with a string of new false tweets overnight. Why . As a caricature artist, i appreciate what makes each person unique. Thats why i like liberty mutual. They get that no two people are alike and customize your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. Almost done. What do you think . I dont see it. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. The course structure the it just suits my life perfectly because i am a mom, im a wife. 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Carlos del rio, associate dean of emery school of medicine and Grady Health System in atlanta. Good morning to you guys. Dana, from my understanding in terms of this twitter restriction of tweeting for don jr. , its like 12 hours, and the question is like how many people saw this and believe this before before action was taken . Talk about if you understand the politics behind the president s son tweeting falsehoods and then the president retweeting it and the why when the science is just so clear. You know, we could probably talk about this for your two hours and then some and maybe this this psychiatry or the psychology beyond it thats beyond all of us, but just from my perspective on the raw politics which is, you know, really what matters here, it is this is a president who started out as a candidate who did well stoking cull tush wars, and this is another version of a culture war in president trumps mind. Despite what he said last week, despite what was very carefully scripted for him, despite the fact that he was given data point after data point on his own polling about how bad he is doing and how poorly he is seen in the eyes of so many voters, he needs to be reelected because of tweets like this, because of his gut instinct which is not to the follow science but to try to convince people otherwise, he continues to do that, and its not just him. Its obviously his son and youre right despite twitter suspending his account and restricting his account, its the cats out of the bag. You cant change it. Yeah. Listen, its disturbing it, it makes a difference. You can argue it costs lives. Dr. Del rio, youre a Public Health expert. Explain the impact of a sitting president of the United States repeatedly sharing disinformation that impacts peoples health. What is the impact to people at home but also in the population because you need to get an outbreak under control across the population to protect individuals. Jim, its very sad, and it also makes me very mad because the reality is the United States has so many of the best scientists in the world, and the fact that science is not being respected is exactly the reason why were not responding well to this epidemic. The response to an epidemic, the u. S. Wrote the book on how to respond to epidemicics and pandemics. We know how to do it. The reality is weve not implemented whats necessary and because we havent done so we are in the mess we are in right now so follow the science. We need to do what science tells us to do, and the reality is that until we do that, were going to be in a mess for as long as we want to. Dr. Del rio, to that point, youre a part of the team, one of the investigators on the team in this moderna phase three trial and this is looking, even dr. Fauci says he was optimistic about it yesterday. Its looking promising. Got 30,000 humans volunteering to be a part of it right now. My question is about when disinformation is spread by the president and the president s son, how do people know to believe the real information when its spread once its proven out if this vaccine proves to be effective. Well, youre absolutely right. Thats a challenging, dwirnging what is true and what is false and unfortunately the president has a pulley pulpit thats very important. Youve got to remember when there was a remdesivir study when first released, they were at least at the oval office, in the white house because it was such an important finding so i think, you know, trusts in science needs to be restored, and if were going to get out of this mess we need science to be driving the response. Dana, is it perhaps time, not time really, beyond time, because this is not new to acknowledge that this is a feature, not a bug of the president s approach to government but also to this election, right . The denial of the virus, attacking the Science Behind shutdowns or maskwearing or other restrictions is a deliberate strategy rather than a mistake or, you know, him going off the path here and there, right . Is that where the evidence points . Yeah, i mean, theres a deliberate strategy by him, the person, the candidate, the president , which should and does matter most, and then there is the attempted strategy at those around him who have a broader and maybe more reasonable approach and understanding to how to get reelected, and and to how to treat these matters as just a basic show of leadership, never mind an assault on science, and so you have those two things which are constantly at odds. Im not saying that there arent people around the president who dont agree with him. There are, but it is it is the issue that people who have been hired by him and fired by him in this sort of, you know, movement that weve seen the president s start, never mind his First Campaign but his entire first term, and that is largely because there are people who tried to put him on the right path, and his instinct i was just talking to somebody who i

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