Were not searching for a needle in a haystack, were still trying to define where the haystack is. Thats how australias defense minister describes the search for flight 370 in the remote indian ocean. Want to bring you cnns saima mohsin from kuala lumpur and will riply in perth where planes are getting ready to take off, we hope. Saima, first to you. What can you tell us about this socalled International Working group, a group that the malaysian government is now forming to help narrow the search area . Whats involved here . Reporter well, wolf, that still remains a mystery. Thats all theyve told us so far. As you know, we get very Little Information in these press conferences, which is amounting to a lot of frustration for a lot of people, including us trying to report this story. And, of course, more importantly, the families that are involved in this. Now, what we know is that this working group will be heavily reliant on the data that particularly countries like the United States and the United Kingdom can offer. We know that they relied on the United Kingdoms inmarsat satellite data, the doppler effect that looked at the frequency and velocity of the aircraft to work out that it did likely end its journey in the southern indian ocean. Which is why they decided to go and announce that they believe all hope was lost in finding mh370 and those on board alive. Wolf . Saima, you know that malaysian authorities, Malaysia Airlines, malaysian government, the Prime Minister, theyve come under enormous fire of criticism for saying that the plane went down in the indian ocean, no hope left for the passengers. Based solely on new and revised satellite data, mathematical calculations from inmarsat. And maybe other sources. But they have no hard evidence, no wreckage from the plane, certainly no bodies. How are they responding in kuala lumpur to the criticism being leveled at the malaysian government . Reporter yeah, wolf, a lot of criticism leveled at them. And a mixture of emotions reflected in todays press conferences. All the denial of anger, of sorrow and sadness. And calls at one point, wolf, for the ceo and chairman to resign, people questioning, will you now resign. And they said, well, thats a private matter. Right now were trying to deal with this crisis situation. It still is a crisis situation for this country and Malaysia Airlines. Particularly the problem is, wolf, as you say, we dont know how and we dont know why Malaysia Airlines flight mh370 didnt make its destination for beijing. In fact, went completely in the opposite direction. Ending up in the southern indian ocean. One of the remotest parts of the world. And they have very little answers for us. And little or no concrete evidence, solely this data that you refer to. So the families say they want to see something solid. They want to see debris, or they want to know where their loved ones are, wolf. And Malaysia Airlines said they were sorry they havent got anything yet, but they are doing their best to try and do that and work with all these countries around the world to get them the answers they so desperately need. Maybe they should have held off making that definitive statement yesterday. Saima, thanks very much. A few hours from now, the search for wreckage from flight 370 is set to resume off the coast of australia. Will riply joining us from the scene. I understand you have some new information. Its a little after 1 00 a. M. Wednesday already over there. How big of an area are they trying to search . Are we certain these planes will take off in a few hours . Reporter thats the latest we know right now. Planes will be taking off about five hours from now at 6 00 a. M. Local time, and the search area about a fourth of the size of what it was at its largest point. But its still a huge area, wolf, about the size of mexico or twoandahalf times the size of texas. And this is over the southern indian ocean, about 1,500 miles from where im standing now. Were talking about an area where there are waves several stories high. I was flying out there in a p3 owe wry on and we saw weather conditions change in an instant. Great visibility and then the clouds can roll in, the rain comes down and you can see almost nothing. If this is an area where you dont want to find a plane, well, unfortunately, this is the area that were talking about. Its very easy to get lost, and its easy for the debris to get pushed around, as well. Will, how are they trying i assume theyre still trying to narrow this search area. Its still pretty large. Reporter its very large. Australian officials are saying, as you mentioned, they are trying to reduce the size of this search area. We have the satellite data from australia, china and france, pinpointing an area they want to focus at specifically. We have those two flights that flew where they actually spotted debris. So theyre going to that area. As we have seen, even if you spot debris once, its a challenge when you go back out to that area. You dont find it again. And thats what crews are running into. Thats whats making this so difficult. Will ripley in perth, we will check back and see if the planes take off in a few hours. So where is the proof . Thats what families of flight 370 passengers are asking after malaysias announcement that the plane and everyone on board went down in the indian ocean. The conclusion with no hard evidence to support it. A conclusion malaysia may have thought would bring some closure, but seems to have done anything but. Heres cnns pauline chu in beijing. Reporter this morning, outrage and fury, as relatives face off with Police Outside the Malaysian Embassy in beijing. Over 300 chinese friends and family members of flight 370 protesting. From the beginning, they just hype everything. And i dont think that this kind of government, a liar and even a murderer, can solve anything. Reporter following mondays dire announcement by malaysias Prime Minister. Flight mh370 ended in the southern indian ocean. Reporter frustrated by malaysias handing of the incident, they descend on food, marching over two miles after police prevented them from taking buses and blocked the embassy once they arrived. Furious and skeptical of malaysias investigation, some chinese family members released a statement, reading in part, the malaysian government and the malaysian military continue putting off, holding back and covering up the truth of the incident. As well as trying to deceive the families of passengers and people of the entire world. I dont know why. I just want to see some at the brie debris of the aircraft and the black box to know what happened. There are too many unanswered questions. Reporter because of the questions that still remain, some chinese families say theyre now willing to go to kuala lumpur in order to confront the officials there at the highest level. And now chinas president , xi jinping has sent his Deputy Foreign minister to malaysia to put pressure on the government there. Pauline chu, cnn, beijing. Up next, did flight 370 deliberately avoid the radar of certain countries . Our experts standing by to weigh in. And later, a full square mile covered in a sort of quick sand. The landslide in Washington State leaving nothing vertical in its path. Well go there live. Everything your mouth does in a day is building up layer, upon layer, of bacteria. And to destroy those layers . You need listerine®. Its unique formula penetrates these layers deeper than other mouthwashes, killing bacteria all the way down to the bottom layer. So for a cleaner, healthier mouth, go with 1 dentist recommended listerine®. 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Lets bring in our panel of experts, mark weise an aviation analyst, former 777 pilot for American Airlines and peter goelz and tom fuentes, Law Enforcement analyst, former assistant director of the fbi. Peter, the Australian Defense minister was very blunt. He said theyre not looking for a needle in a haystack. Theyre looking for the haystack right now. They cant even find the haystack, which three weeks in is so depressing. It is depressing. But i think its reality. And i think we have tried to indicate that, that this was never a matter of days or even weeks. Its going to be a matter of months and years. And i think that everyone involved on the ground there ought to be knowledgeable about not raising expectations. You know, every piece of junk floating in the ocean isnt a possible, you know, piece of evidence. Because theres a lot of junk. Theres a lot of stuff. Its been moved around by the currents and waves and whatever. And people get their expectations up. The family members are tortured by it. We need to just get into the hard grind of searching for this. Its interesting. There is some suspicion out there, and i want you to weigh in, mark. Youre a 777 pilot. That the for whatever reason, the crew may have been deliberately trying to evade certain radar, thai radar, indonesian radar, because they were making turns. The thais say they never saw the plane on their radar. The indonesians say they never saw the plane on their radar. Both of them may have missed it. But if you look at the map, and were showing whats going on, it sounds like maybe the crew was deliberately trying, if you believe the thai and the the thai radar experts and the indonesian radar experts, you may be convinced that the crew was deliberately trying to avoid radar. I think theres a lot of fantasy to Something Like that. I think if somebody wanted to deliberately avoid radar, i mean it looked as though they turned off the transponder. The acars stopped. I dont know that it was the crew. It could have been somebody else in the cockpit. It could have been one of the crew members. But i dont know that those actions were purposely taken to deliberately forestall the radar. So you dont necessarily buy that theory. What do you think of the way the malaysians over the past 24 hours have handled this . Because the Prime Minister comes out and says definitively, the plane is in the water. Malaysia Airlines Says the people are all dead. And today they say, well, you know, that was the best evidence we have. We cant theres no obviously no bodies. Theres no wreckage. What do you think of the way theyre handling this . I think it was very insensitive. We looked at this and why they would say that. And you have people, you know, screaming at officials in beijing and kuala lumpur that theres no debris. How do you know this for sure . Its based on a new mathematical calculation. And this is kind of Like High School math. If youve come up with a new answer, show us your work. Dont just say what the answer is. And you know, the chinese have a space program. They have some of the best mathematicians in the world. Let them show them some of your calculations or share it with them. Have some buyin from the other countries that have lost dozens of people in this event. You have done a lot of aviation accidents, peter. And you have you studied them. You have gone back. Have you ever seen a case where a country definitively makes an announcement like this without any wreckage or bodies, simply on mathematical and radar calculations, pings, handshakes, whatever . No. This has been poorly handled from the getgo. And had malaysia, the government, and the military, been committed to a more transparent process, as the treaty that they signed mandates, they would have been much better off. Because it wouldnt have just been the malaysian government saying this. It would have been the investigative team, which would have involved people, chinese investigators, american and brits. They have been behind the curve from the beginning. And yesterdays performance was simply designed to try and close out the family operations. Explain what you mean by that. A lot of folks are suggesting now, they just want to sweep it under the carpet and move on. They want the family members to go home. They do not want the family members at the hotels sitting there. That could go on indefinitely. They want the family members on the best case basis back with their own families in their own communities, in their own villages and towns, where they have support. But on a worst case basis, theyre tired of seeing the media focus on that. They want to shut these operations down. And mark, everything you have seen over the past 24 hours still convinces you, this is criminal, this was not mechanical. Im still leaning in that direction. Again, you dont want to close out options, because then everything that every hypothesis you want will lead to what you think its going to be. But my feeling, my gut feeling, based upon the evidence that seems to present itself at this time, all points to me that the vast majority of that information leads to someone in the aircraft, in the cockpit, that wanted to take that aircraft deliberately off its intended flight path. Guys, dont go too far away. We have a lot more questions. Our viewers sending us a lot of questions, as well. Well do that later this hour. Much more on the missing plane mystery. Also coming up, a deadly landslide crushing homes near seattle, washington. 200 people still unaccounted for. Well go there live. Thats coming up. What does everything mean to you . With the quicksilver cash back card from capital one, it means unlimited 1. 5 cash back on everything you purchase, every day. It doesnt mean, everything. As long as you buy it at the gas station. 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Lets go to darington in Washington State. Bill weir on the scene for us. Is there still a lot of hope out there they will find survivors . Whats the latest, bill . Reporter well, it depends on who you talk to, wolf. Frankly. Were now about 72 hours since that huge chunk of mountain detached and came roaring into this valley. Were set up here in darington on the west side. Beautiful landscape here. Gorgeous cascades. But this has been sort of the one little Gathering Spot out in front of the darington iga where you see the banners, home made banners to pray for the 530 slide victims. Thats highway 530. First responders, thanks for everything. And the information, its really kind of sad, because there is not a lot to go on. A sheet of plywood with a map of the area. That was taken out so they know which properties were there. Now that big number that youve been reporting, we now know, of course, 14 fatalities. 176 unaccounted for. They think that number is going to come way down. Those they may be some duplications, as well. Maybe folks who people think might have lived in that area, arent there anymore. We do know folks, one satellite dish signaller installer working, so the death toll certain to climb. And ive got the most grim reality check. You asked about mood and hope from one of the rescue search and rescue guys, a fireman by the name of lenin who spent three days on the pile and changed our entire perception of the search. He had a little sample its like a clay. We were describing it like a wet cement or a quick sand. Its like oily, slick clay. And he said the bodies they are finding, its really grim to describe. The clothes are torn off them. Theyre not intact. Cars have been ripped in half. So the hope that there are air pockets, as you would find in an earthquake or hurricane dont seem to exist in this thing. It was sort of this perfect catastrophic mix of water and mud that took out that entire town. So as right next to the information board, you see the daily herald you can see the headline today. Hope starts to dim. But we did talk to the governor, jay inslee in the state of washington and this is a small town, a lot of people know folks, third and fourth generation washingtonions there. And thats all they can have is open right now. People are giving everything they can. Food, water, tears and prayer. And the folks in this area of the country will take everything they can get, wolf. Are they bracing for more landslides, bill . Reporter it sounds like its stabilized today. There was some worry yesterday, search and rescue crews had to be pulled off the pile when it started to shift a little bit. Thats the problem with this particular kind of earth, its too solid for boats, but its too soft for heavy machine he re. So theyre using hovercraft now, search and rescue, urban rescue dog teams trying to sniff out signs of life. Theyre listening with acoustic equipment. It takes five minutes, because its so slow going. But as of today, we hadnt heard any worries. And they are allowing civilians, about 50 to 100 volunteers showed up here today with their hip waders and axes and chainsaws to help everywhere they can. Thats a sign that the authorities are convinced that its at least safe enough to let those folks out. Our hearts certainly go out to all of the folks over there. Bill weir on the scene for us. Well continue to check back with you. Thank you. Up next, the latest on the search for missing flight 370. One analyst will tell us why hes not surprised its taking this long. And later, we take a closer look at some of the new technology being used in the search to see how it could possibly help find the plane. Predibut, manufacturings a prettin the United States do. Means advanced technology. We learned that Technology Allows us to be craft oriented. No ones losing their job. Theres no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. 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Developments ask search planes back over the skies in the indian ocean just a few hours from now, looking for debris. Bad weather in the search area grounded the planes yesterday. Malaysian officials are forming an International Working group to help pinpoint the search for the plane, including expert Satellite Communications and aircraft performance. And passengers, relatives marched on the Malaysian Embassy in beijing today. They say theyre angry, theyre frustrated over malaysias handling of the entire investigation. So what should we make of the new efforts to find flight 370 . Joining us now, two guests. Ken christiansen, former retired u. S. Air force pilot, former nasa liaison to the department of security. Also steven wood, ceo and co founder of all source analysis. He spent many years in the cia as an image analyst. Steven, ill start with you. Youve told us youre not at all surprised the search has taken this long to find even any debris. Why is that . Why arent you surprised . Well, wolf, i think the real challenge is, as many of your guests have been saying, the sheer size of the area where the search has to go on. Its enormous. To put in perspective, if you look at just the imagery thats being collected by a commercial satellites, it would extend from washington, d. C. , out to the west, out to cincinnati. Or up to the north, up to hartford, connecticut. And to try and find an object that is small, in some cases maybe only a couple feet long, thats a tremendous amount of area to be covered. And to try and find an object. Ken, youre very familiar with the aviation point part of this story. The reports that the plane was cruising at 35,000 and then went up to 45,000, down to 23,000, eventually down to 12,000, and then may have gone back up to 35,000, if it were going to reach all the way to that southern part of the indian ocean. Do you buy all of that, or do you think that thats the wrong direction for us to be working . Wolf, i can i think its an excellent point, and doesnt make sense to me, if youre up high and have a problem, rapid did he pressurization, you want to descend and land at the nearest airport. So there would be no reason for you to reascend or climb back up to the higher altitudes again. And if the inmarsat was getting seven and a half hours of data, that means the plane was still in the air. There was no way that plane could fly that long at a low altitude like 12,000 feet when a large airplane goes down in altitude, the air is denser and takes more power to go through that, so youre going to be burning a lot more fuel going through those lower altitudes. And so the plane would not get as far as where the search at this current time. Thats why that doesnt make sense to me. Stephen, youre very familiar with satellite imagery. You spent a career dealing with these kinds of images. The Prime Minister of malaysia, based on inmarsat, based on the information, the new analysis, he makes a definitive statement the plane was in the waters of the indian ocean. Malaysia airlines releases a statement that all of the people on board are dead. Is that information enough for a Prime Minister to make a definitive Statement Like that . It must have been terribly challenging, wolf. And the way i look at it, you still need to see that conclusive evidence. I think thats what everybody is still looking for, is the search will continue on and needs to. People want to see the physical evidence. And thus far, i believe the Australian Defense minister last night was speaking on cnn, and in his press conference. I think he said it well. This is the best possible evidence we have to date. Between the inmarsat data, between the various satellite imagery data, some of the aircraft sightings themselves. But now we need to actually find the debris. And i think that is what ultimately the world is still looking for. And the search will continue until that happens. How good is that inmarsat data, the recalculation, the Prime Minister of malaysia said they had never done this before, this new analysis of the pings or handshakes or whatever they call it. Is it that reliable, or some experts questioning its reliability . Well, again, wolf, im not a communications expert. So i cant speak as authoritatively as somebody from inmarsat. But to evidence to date, again, i believe we have now been able to narrow down the area. And start being able to have more of a bulls eye approach on what this area needs to be focused on. And using all of the sources of data, whether its airplanes or satellite imagery, or in this case inmarsat, we need to really triangulate and concentrate the search area, even more intensely. And final question to you, ken. This whole notion that maybe, maybe the plane was after it made that left turn, left Malaysian Air space, was about to enter Vietnamese Air space but made that uturn or left turn or whatever you want to call it, avoiding thai radar, avoiding indonesian radar, because both of those countries say they have no evidence that that plane was flying through their air space. What do you make of that . Well, if theyre over water, wolf, and they are at a low altitude, they could technically evade that radar. They would have to be very low to do that. At 12,000 feet but 12,000 feet is not that low. The radar from the ground can still detect them. Exactly. Exactly. So if they were further out from the water because its not quite clear to me where they actually were when they were at that altitude. So some radars have gaps in them, some dont, depending on where theyre transient through. So they could you could get theres sometimes when youre at 5, 6,000 feet and youre not picked up on radar, just because youre so far out. So you start dropping off as the earth will curve, and you have to be at a at a higher altitude to be visible to radar. But if youre flying over land, people will hear that plane flying over, and probably absolutely. Yeah, all right. Ken, thanks very much. Ken christensen. Guys, thanks for your expertise. S. O. N. A. R. And supersensitive listening devices could help in the search for the plane. How these devices work. What a difference potentially they could make. And later, many of you are asking Great Questions about this entire mystery of flight 370. Our panel of experts will join us and try to offer some answers. [ sniffles, coughs ] shhhh i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesnt treat all that. It doesnt . 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Stephanie elam joining us from Santa Barbara harbor with a demonstration. Stephanie, show us how this works. Theyve got to locate that flight data and voice recorder. R orter and we dont have a lot of time, wolf. And thats exactly what we wanted to show here today. The difference between hydrophones and also taking a look at s. O. N. A. R. Theyre different and do different things. I want to introduce you to james coleman, senior hydrographer. I keep saying that wrong. Hes going to show you how this works. Break it down for us and show how this hydrophone works. That under water locater beacon is sending out sound, these pings. And to pick it up, you need a hydrophone, which put simply is an underwater microphone. This is one of our sensitive models. What theyll do is take microphones like this and string them into arrays to listen for the pinger. Reporter how far out does it listen . With the strength of the signal, about five miles. Reporter five miles. So every second they hear that tick, which we call a ping, its listening for that. Exactly. So you put on a headset or look at a visual display to look for that once a second ping. Reporter and how deep down can these go . These are pressure rated to go to the bottom of the ocean. So you can put things on a remotely operated vehicle that mayfly to the bottom or an autonomous vehicle. Theyre both able to do that. Reporter this is a hydrophone. Thats where you would start if youre looking for the ping. Lets say it gets to the situation where the ping has stopped, the batteries have run out. Then they just have s. O. N. A. R. How does s. O. N. A. R. Work . This is much different than the hydrophone. The hydrophone is just listening, where this is s. O. N. A. R. , where this is going to emit sound and receive the sound bouncing back off the sea floor and interpret it and look for whats on the sea floor and construct an image of whats down there. Theyre going to look for the wreckage using an active s. O. N. A. R. So the hydrophone says its in this general area, the s. O. N. A. R. Says its right about here. Exactly. All right. So lets go see what this looks like with the technology once we go inside. You lead the way. Yeah, absolutely. Reporter were going to go inside and take a look at how this works. So what we have on this screen here, explain this one to us. So this is just a visual readout of what the hydrophone is listening to right now. All we really see is random ocean noise. If there was the beacon out there, you would see all of a sudden a strong spike at the 30 to 40 kilohertz range, the frequency that beacon is emitting. And a strong spike coming in once a second, and thats where you know youre within range. Reporter so how deep is the water here . Here we are only at 40 feet deep. Reporter but just to give an idea. If you look on this side over here, its showing you whats on the bottom of the floor right here of the water. Exactly. So this is the mapping s. O. N. A. R. And so were emitting sound and looking downward at the sea floor. As we look down at the sea floor, were rebuilding as the s. O. N. A. R. Returns come in. What the shape of the sea floor is. And were constructing an image of what things look like on the bottom. So this is a 3d point cloud of what the structure of the bottom looks like. And this is an image of what targets and objects are on the bottom. Reporter this is a really slow process. You cant just move the boat very fast through the water. No, not at all. And more complicated than that, these sensors need to be near the bottom. And if were in the southern indian ocean, that means they need to be thousands of feet down in order to be able to get them near the bottom. And thats the real complication, is to get sensors like this near the bottom, and then map out small segments of sea floor, and build up a large map of the sea floor to find out whats down there. Reporter and this here im assuming is a pipeline. Exactly. Reporter so you can see exactly what that is. Very clear to see what that is, and to see how this technology is working, wolf. But it gives a very clear picture of something worth going back to investigate. And thats how theyre going to go about looking for any debris field and hopefully finding this plane. Hopefully, indeed. Good explanation, stephanie. Thank you very much. Another of the tools used is the u. S. Navys towed pinger locater. Brian todd has seen one of these devices. Very hightech device, arriving in perth overnight. We visited the manufacturer of phoenix, International Holdings today, they showed us how this pinger locater works. It is towed from a ship, very slowly, less than 10 miles per hour. Looks leak like a fin, weighs 70 pounds. This can extend to 20,000 feet below the surface. Its towed very slowly, as we said and has to be twothirds of the ocean depth so that it does not hit obstacles. Paul nelson, the project manager for Phoenix International, which did he deploys this device, explained it once it picks up a signal. This is a towed pinger locater, this gets pulled behind vessel opportunity and detects the ping or chirp of this pinger. This is attached to the black boxes on an airplane. There are two of these on the two black boxes. So this unit will get pulled through the ocean, and then it listens to a tiny little chirp at 37. 5 kilohertz frequency. Reporter now from there, wolf, they have people looking at the vessel towing it, looking at a reading of it in a graphic readout and also listening, for the very sensitive pings. So its a very hightech operation there. Thats the people in the vessel above it listening for all of that. Now, this arrives in perth on wednesday, we said, and deployed on the australian ship. The sea horse standard operated by two u. S. Navy officers. And eight contractors from that Phoenix International company. But what we dont know is exactly when its going to get to the search area. May take several days to get to the search area. And we only have about 13 days left until that pinger signal runs out. So that towed pinger locater operated by the navy has got to get there as soon as possible. Clearly the clock is ticking, brian. Thanks very much. More of a demonstration later in the situation room. Many of you have gone on twitstory ask questions about flight 370. Our panel of experts standing by to try and provide some answers. And later, president obama at the Nuclear Summit in europe, talking about Russian Troops amassed on ukraines border. Were going to hear what the president of the United States has said. The owner of a vehicle, with a bumper sticker, turrible your lights are on. 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How can they say the flight crashed in the indian ocean and yet they still havent recovered anything, what are they hiding. Thats the thing. The calculations of the inmarsat technicians. There is no debris. No other separate proof to corroborate their information. Either theyre hiding it or they want to have some closure. Maybe slightly prematurely. They want a closure, but this is not bringing closure. This is only bringing more frustration to the families of the passengers. Mark, heres a question. How does auto pilot work in an onboard emergency . Is it possible the pilots became incapacitated . Well, it depends on the emergency that you have. Youre normally flying with it on, other than necessarily the takeoff. You could have it on for a landing. In an emergency, depending on the type of situation, you would turn it off. If you had it on this program, it could either be programmed to follow the flight Management System or it could follow manual inputs from the pilots. The autopilot does not change the altitude level. It goes constant altitude. The autopilot will change the altitude if you request it to change the altitude. Heres a question for you, peter. Could someone hack the system and give a false ping to throw the investigation off, maybe just invert the signal . Boy, i think thats getting out there. I dont think so. Talking about hacking the system so that the inmarsat scientists received a false positive. You need to direct it to them. I dont think thats possible. Or hack the computer, onboard computer to change the direction of the plane. That has not happened. Its highly unlikely that it could happen. These planes have multiple protections on them. Heres another question for our pilot, mark. I can understand the sudden drop to 12k due to decompression. Then it went back up. Does not make sense. It doesnt make sense from a practical point of view. If it had a decompression or a mechanical problem, certainly youd want to get down. But youd want to get down to the nearest suitable airport. If the information is correct, that it climbed back up, to me, again, going along with perhaps some of my thinking, it could have been a struggle in the cockpit for control over the airplane. Heres the question, peter. How much oxygen was available . Would it have run out about the same time as the last change in direction or ruined by fire . Ive actually heard that with those oxygen masks, theres only about 15 minutes of oxygen per passenger. Yeah, it usually comes out of a container, two chemicals mixed that produces anywhere from 12 to 15 minutes of oxygen. Designed only for the passenger to use until they get down under 12,000 feet. If you need that oxygen for longer than 15 minutes youre out of luck. The pilots have full oxygen for much longer. How long do the pilots have oxygen . Mark . Depends on the airplane. But youve got like an hours worth of oxygen. And its 100 oxygen. I was pretty surprised when i heard only 15 minutes per passenger. They do all the demonstrations, the flight attendants. I assume that if you need the oxygen, you do it until you land. 15 minutes is not necessarily good enough, in my opinion. Thats just my opinion. All right, guys, well continue our q a tomorrow. Much more coming up on the missing plane. Also, the president of the United States taking questions at the end of the Nuclear Summit in europe. Were going to hear what he had to say about russia and Vladimir Putin and plan changes also for nsa surveillance. Imagine if everything you learned led to the one job you always wanted. At university of phoenix, we believe every education not just ours should be built around the career that you want. Imagine that. Humans we are beautifully imperfect creatures, living in an imperfect world. 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With respect to the Russian Troops that are along the border of ukraine at the moment, right now they are on russian soil. And if they stay on russian soil, we oppose what appears to be an effort of intimidation. But russia has a right legally to have its troops on its own soil. I dont think its a done deal, and i think russia is still making a series of calculations. Lets go to our senior White House Correspondent jim acosta. Hes joining us live from the netherlan netherlands. The president spoke about additional steps on russia, if the russians presumably take additional steps of their own. Were talking about more sanctions, right . Thats right, wolf. The president was quite clear during this News Conference that the sanctions would ramp up pretty quickly, hitting the Russia Energy sector. Their banking and finance sector. He also issued a pretty clear warning, wolf, in terms of nato countries, if russia were to try to move against any nato ally that is in russias neighborhood. He said there would be military options, they would come to the defense of those nato allies. But when it came to crimea, you heard them saying basically because of the facts on the ground, that that peninsula is under russian control. Theres not a whole lot that the u. S. Can do right now. He thinks putin is making some calculations. There was another very interesting moment during this News Conference when president obama was asked about mitt romneys claim to you during the 2012 campaign, that russia is the u. S. Top geopolitical foe. The president took exception to that. He said he still doesnt feel that mitt romney is right. He said hes much more concerned about a nuclear bomb going off in manhattan than the russians, who he called a Regional Power that is threatening its neighbors. A bit of a jab there at putin. Certainly was. Tell us what the major news on nsa surveillance that the president spoke about today. Reporter thats right. The president confirmed what his administration basically said earlier this morning, is that the nsa is no longer going to be in the business of holding on to that phone metadata. The phone Companies Hold on to that data and then the nsa could go in there and search it when they need to. The president is expected to make a more complete proposal in the next couple of days. But for now, thats right, the nsa is getting out of the business of collecting that data, at least after Congress Passes legislation making it final. Thats the next step in this process. I will watch it together with you. Jim acosta joining us from near the hague. Thanks very much. Ill be back 5 00 p. M. Eastern. Another special twohour edition of the situation room. Newsroom with Brooke Baldwin starts right now. Mr. Blitzer, thank you, as always. Great to be with you on this tuesday. Im Brooke Baldwin. Malaysia says all lives lost. The families of flight 370 say thats a lie. Hundreds of family members and friends stormed the Malaysian Embassy in beijing today. Some calling malaysian officials murderers. Families clashing with police here. They walked to the embassy, refusing to believe without proof that this plane ended