That is going to take some time. The scope of that effort will depend on how many waivers are requested. But where waivers are requested i am quite confident that kind of work will be demanded. It is being done in a haphazard way that is not necessarily rigorous and objective. I think some of this has been done internally. I do not think that will be found to be acceptable. There will be a much more impartial and objective approach that says, that is looking at this issue. If the waivers are perceived on a large scale. Thank you. We are about to take a 10 minute rate but before we do, join me in thanking our guest. Beautification to my mind is far more than a matter of cosmetics. Whole it describes the effort to bring the Natural World and the manmade world into harmony, to bring usefulness and delight to our whole environment. And that work only begins with trees and flowers and lands gapping. Lady birds bill was about beautifying the nation, her signature issue as first lady. She was a successful is this woman and savvy Business Partner to her husband lbj. Ady bird johnson on cspans original series first ladies influence and their examining influence on the presidency from Martha Washington to michelle obama. On American History tv on cspan3. The Heritage Foundation and the Anglosphere Society cohosted an event tuesday honoring the life and political career of former british Prime MinisterMargaret Thatcher. October 13 would have been her 90th birthday. Panelists discussed her reagan,ship with ronald their approach to the soviet union, and her opinions on the u. K. s membership in the European Union. This is about an hour in 10 minutes. This is about an hour and 10 minutes. Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us here at the Heritage Foundation in our douglas and Sarah Allison auditorium. We of course, welcome those of you who join us at our heritage website and those who will be joining us at cspan3 questions can be sent simply by emailing speaker heritage. Org. We are pleased todays program is cohosted by the Anglosphere Society. For those unfamiliar with it, it was formed in 2012. It is an independent, nonprofit, taxexempt organization and focuses on promoting the special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom, free market economies, and cultural events for englishspeaking peoples. In pursuing its mission, the Anglosphere Society holds events, encourages the anglosphere alliance, access a forum to promote and publicize evidence grounded in the values of freedom and democracy, and fosters networks and personal bonds for discussions on key issues. We are pleased to welcome the founder of the Anglosphere Society. She previously served as the new york director of the center of Security Policy for eight years, focusing there on policing terrorism and the homegrown threat posed by radical islam. This allowed her to work collaboratively with policy organizations and Law Enforcement on both sides of the pond. Ms. Bowman has over 20 Years Experience in corporate, philanthropic, and consumer public experience on both sides of the atlantic. She also serves as a board member on the intrepid Fallen Heroes fund. Please join me in welcoming amanda bowman. Amanda . Amanda thank you so much, john, and my deepest gratitude to the Heritage Organization for cohosting this event and your generosity in making it all possible. Today we are celebrating the life of Margaret Thatcher, who would have been 90 years old today. In april of 2013, the Senate Passed a resolution to recognize the life, legacy, and example of british Prime Minister baroness Margaret Thatcher, and i would like to quote from that resolution, because i think it sets the stage for this discussion tonight. Resolved that the Senate Honors the legacy of baroness Margaret Thatcher for lifelong commitment to advancing freedom, liberty, and democracy throughout the world. Recognizes that Margaret Thatcher, working with president Ronald Reagan, helped to bring a peaceful end to the cold war. Reiterates its continued support for the close tie and the special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom and expresses admiration for baroness Margaret Thatcher and her legacy as the inspirational and transformative leader in the United Kingdom and the world. Needless to say, i could not say it better. Today we have Nile Gardiner moderating our conversation today, and he brings a unique perspective on the life of Margaret Thatcher. As you know, he is the director for the Margaret Thatcher center for freedom at heritage and has worked in the washington policy world over a decade and is a leading expert on the u. S. U. K. Special relationship. And u. S. Policy toward europe. But before joining heritage, he served as an aide to Margaret Thatcher and advised her on a number of International Policy issues. Working in her private office, nile assisted Lady Thatcher with her final book statecraft strategies for a changing world. He has a bachelors and masters degree in history from Oxford University. Oxford university is an important part of our conversation, because we have the principle of Somerville College oxford, of which Margaret Thatcher is a distinguished alumni. She started her career as a Museum Curator and subsequently as an archivist in the Public Record office. She then became the director of special collections at the british library. She took up the position of University Librarian at Yell University and she at Yale University and she remains there until she was elected the somerville in 2009 and took up the position in september 2012. September 2010. She has expertise on the academic influences on Margaret Thatcher for life. We also are honored to have attorney general edwin meese, now Ronald Reagans distinguished emeritus at the center for legal and judicial studies at heritage. He is a prominent elder statesman and we are delighted to have him speak to the special relationship, and particularly her special relationship with Ronald Reagan. And we also have with us John Osullivan, special advisor and speechwriter to Prime Minister thatcher, and also he is an author and journalist and a senior fellow at the National Review institute, and also editor at large of the National Review, where he served as editorinchief for him is to decade. From the scene 97 from 1987 until 1988, he served as special advisor to Margaret Thatcher. After he left downing street, he served informally as a regular speechwriter for the Prime Minister. He was the principal author of the 1987 conservative election manifesto. He assisted Lady Thatcher in writing her two volumes of memoranda. We are fortunate to have a look at Lady Thatcher for life, steadily and whole, as ts eliot would say. Im delighted to have this opportunity. Thank you. [applause] nile thank you very much, amanda, for the very kind introduction very warm welcome to our three distinguished guests with us today and a warm welcome to everyone joining us at the Heritage Foundation. I would like to start off, if i may with a first question about somerville. Margaret thatcher was a student there. Shes started on her 18th birthday and oxford was an small instrumental in shaping Lady Thatcher pro later career. I would like to embark on an opening question with regard to the Margaret Thatcher scholarship and trust. With regard to the thatcher scholarship, could you give us insight into what Somerville Oxford are trying to achieve with regard to these scholarships . And could you have some details about the launch of these scholarships trust and what youre trying to achieve with this tremendous project . Thank you, nile. The idea of fundamentally is to create a permanent living legacy to Margaret Thatcher by creating a policy that will bring people to study at oxford from all over the world, who probably would not otherwise. Were following the narrative of Margaret Thatcher, a woman from very modest circumstances, but tremendous promise and great academic attainment. Who made her way to oxford, which i happen to be principle which is the same thing as president. Somerville identified Margaret Thatcher as somebody that was struggling financial and would not be able to get the best of her oxford education without financial assistance. And she was rewarded with funds and also an academic scholarship. She was taught by some of the most excellent teachers in the world. We may speak more about this one of her main professors Dorothy Hodgkins was the one british woman ever to have won a nobel prize in science. They taught students at the highest possible level, and we want to continue that tradition in the name of Margaret Thatcher and bring people from all over the world to honor her legacy. People who are going to succeed in life with the same sort of determination that she displayed. Nile and with regard to the thatcher scholarships, naturally they draw comparison with the roads scholarships, arguably the most famous scholarships in the world at this time, the scholarships established by the great builder, cecil rhodes. A graduate of royal college. How do you see the thatcher scholarships differing from the Rhodes Scholarships, or are there similarities . Dr. Prochaska there are similarities and that we want to create international students. We are looking for excellence. We are looking for academic excellence. At but what the Rhodes Scholarship to do that our scholarships will not pay so much emphasis on is to look for wellrounded people who have excelled with athletic prowess, and we are actually look at women with strong academic ability and we then give them the opportunity to develop the character and profile of Margaret Thatcher. She herself would not have been a rhodes scholar. There are differences. These scholarships are for undergraduates as well as postgraduates. People for university from parts of africa, germany, commonwealth countries. We continue to provide scholarships for people from any part of the world, including those countries, but they may come from any part of the world. And one distinguishing characteristic which is not specified in the Rhodes Program is we will give particular preference to people who can demonstrate they overcame adversity. Margaret thatcher overcame the adversity of coming from a very modest ground with no university tradition and her family at all. We are looking for people who can show already in their lives that they have managed to overcome. Nile excellent. It is striking that Margaret Thatcher had to learn lessons in the space of about five months had to learn latin, i believe, in the space of about five months in order to enter into Oxford University at the time, and as you mentioned, came from a very, very modest background. The daughter of a green grocer. She epitomized, i suppose, the cando attitude of her generation. Certainly a term in this example to young aspiring scholars who wish to study at oxford today. One question with regard to the scholarship Margaret Thatcher was famously denied an honorary doctorate when she was Prime Minister. Can you explain how, in spite of that, the relationship with Somerville College remained very warm for Lady Thatcher . And she always kept a special place for somerville and her heart, despite her somewhat shoddy treatment by the senior officials at Oxford University . Dr. Prochaska she was certainly shabbily treated by the university, and that was a mistake. Somerville college was where she had her roots in the university, and some of you may pick up niles allusion to the fact that cecil rhodes came from royal college. So, oxford graduates feel a particular loyalty to their own college. She felt it was an immense privilege to be there. It was a very special place. It had very, very high traditions. At that time it was in all womens college. It gave her confidence in the support that she needed, and it was her intellectual and her emotional home. I think that was very important to her. Furthermore, somerville did not dishonor her in anyway. Quite the opposite. The college made her an honorary fellow as soon it she became a cabinet minister in 1970 and retained very close ties with her. The principal of somerville, my predecessor, who was principal at the time Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister was an extraordinary woman in her own right named stephanie park. Daphne park. When she became the principle of somerville, she was the highest ranking woman insecurity although the college did not know that at the time. She was a huge admirer of Margaret Thatcher. She was absolutely devastated when the university voted against giving the Prime Minister an honorary degree, and Margaret Thatcher wrote very consoling me and magnanimously to her along the lines of, dont worry, its alright. I love somerville. It was such a privilege to be there. It will always have a place in my heart. You have leaflets distributed amongst the audience quoting from some of the letters. The college was quite different from the university, although the university really did all out a really unforgivable insult. Nile thank you very much. I would now like to bring in edwin meese iii, my colleague here at heritage, and attorney general under Ronald Reagan. You have the opportunity to meet with Margaret Thatcher on a number of occasions and you were instrumental as well in setting up the First White House meeting between president reagan and Prime MinisterMargaret Thatcher in 1981. Although the first meeting between reagan and thatcher to place in england in 1975, several years before. Ronald reagan had only planned a few minutes to speak with Margaret Thatcher, at that time the leader of the opposition, but that short discussion was expanded into a 2hour discussion, and immediately the two figures got on incredibly well. What were the qualities that Margaret Thatcher possess that so attracted reagan . And why did reagan admire Margaret Thatchers leadership so deeply . Mr. Meese i think it started out as a matter of philosophy. She met then governor reagan actually he had just left the governorship at the time. They had discussions and it views about the limitations of government were very similar. But i think it was her aggressive or fighting spirit, if you will, the fact that she was willing to stand up for her beliefs, and i think that in intrigued him. He had a similar position when he took over as governor for the state. Also, in terms of his views for the federal government. Also dealing with communism, there was a certain similarity of use there, no which were very important to him. It was the combination of the philosophy and the ideas she expressed, but also her style was on