An assessment of the 50 war on about what its going to take to break through the ideas. 50 Year Anniversary was anuary 8th and as congressman jordan already said president Lindon Johnson said he wanted to attack the causes of prof symptoms. Nd not the thats a noble intention. Is it born out. Today that comprises 80 provide, programs that cash, food, house know, medical ssistance and targeted ssistance to poor and low income individuals. A total price tag over the years trillion. I bring that up only to say if we were going to win this war on spending, we would have done it a long time ago. Look more deeply at the things that bobs calling o us look at, the incentives within these Welfare Programs. This is just as true for any is ate enterprise that trying to tackle t incentives matter. Period the time unwed child bearing rate has gone from single digit to 40 markers e have some that we need to be aware of, but get very focused on the incentives that will bring out stories and thats what congressmans jordans bring tion will do and the food stamp requirement into he puzle and thats just em pwepl mattic of one problem. So the reform act that was widely hailed left and right as it eat success because transformed the old aid to childrenwith dependant into a path towards selfsufficiency and required that people sure were engaged in work activities over time. Effects. To dramatic the welfare roles fell in half poverty reached an entire low and that was an rere to say lets paoe pete that in others of these 80 programs but too many walked done. And said the job is the job is not done. Justice to the poor in the United States and we need to keep working and build on that success. Next step is congressman jordans legislation and look orward to engaging in this new conversation about how we make he path toward sufficientsufficiency clear and incentives match that. I would like to add a footnote to that. The black opportunity is more of barometer of the health of the nation. 196085 of black families had a man and woman raise children. Gone down to 30 . Poverty spending were the cure then detroit a social reform mecca, but it isnt. Ecause the problem is structural 70 of every dollar spent on poor people does not go people. It goes to those who serve poor people. Which problems are solvable but which ones are fundable this year. Incentives forse professional Service Providers o serve the poor no matter how compassionate they may be if their income and careers are upon having people serve no matter how compassionate, youre asking to sacrifice their own personal careers and their empower poor r to people. Onservatives by contrast have no proprietary or strategic interest in the existences of therefore theyve got more of an incentive to people with the suffering the problem. But weve got to make that kind and demonstrate to people that were willing to we must inal point is nongovernmental interventions. Or instance, in indianapolis, indiana you have a program where church tprerbgs, you have kurt moore. He spent 13 years in federal out and found christ and didnt leave him in with him. Brought him but kurt needed a job. Job in this ministry washing cars for another member of the church for four months. He said why dont you go in business four yourself. And was given a beatup van some equipment and kurt started washing cars in peoples driveways. Two years after that he employs has contracts with 23 car dealer ships to wash trucks. So im we need to come in. Ohn williams is a local business guy and so now they are in partnership to talk about iving him access to capital because he has to buy new equipment but he doesnt have any credit because he was in prison. But when we can come in and partner with people like that, access to capital, begin toand so that we establish these kinds of relationships all over the 15 try and the church has other entrepreneurs rather thanville identifying the rich, lets provide the means for for creating wealth and their business acumen so we can grow and generate jobs by building on the strength of communities. Ose we need to always talk in terms of what is working in those and how can we build on those strengths and you will kurt has to when asked about minimum wage hell have a different response some advocate. Up for aoep it questions. Kids under 20 could you pass law . Nimum wage it might not get signed by he president but we could work on it. Bobs comments are right on target. What works and not what people here in washington think may work. E can focus on that kind of thing, but getting that across withine would be difficult this congress. Jerry. T here, good morning. Thought ied by what i heard. I statistic that 70 of the flow through these rograms do not go to the end recipients but are for the infrastructure that delivers it, is that correct . Yes, sir. At that done by time, the liberal Community Service society of new york city at all the various poverty programs. Concluded. They were the first study i saw that said 70 of all dollars worker, ocial psychologists, drug counselers, systems, the care variety, just the whole of services stems, yes. One thing to remember in that statistic it will vary program to program. And federal programs cash some are social services so its service. For a one other question for whoever. Some of the things youre perverse out the incentives in a lot of the programs that actually subsidize this is true with many federal programs of the recognition perversity of some of these recognized bys is the Democrat Party . Actually arrier to getting some sensible things done. Much. Reaction is not one of the things our letslation seeks to do is start at least get our arms around everything thats going on. 77 and jennifer mentioned 80, its a lot of programs. Have job training, education, nutrition. This agency is probably doing is redone hat tkapblt. Were ind out what spending and lets account for t thats a step in the right irection, but every time its tried where you have this i like the way bob described it, categories of folks, but the tough love component does work. 90sd this back in the mid when they passed legislation we did it. , we did it in the stated of ohio. I offered the amendment on the floor and it was an all out debate. The deal worked out for welfare reform and job training was no tough love component. One on t i could offer the floor. After two years if youre an will no ed adult we longer pay you without working. Warning. R it was a big debate. It passed. It worked. You know what we found . No one got kicked off because influenced behavior. Think about your own life. Hen people saw the deadline coming, guess what they did . Hey got the skill that bob was talking about. They found a job and got the skills and moved on something for them and their family. We need to recognize that component and make sure its regulation. Can i comment on the question bout is there recognition across the political spectrum of the wrong incentives currently law there have been epiphany. Ng moments of there were predictions prior to 1996 there would be a million children starving on the streets. Quite the opposite happened. That brought many liberals to would you, this kind of a strategy does work. The campaign trail, some of you will remember, then enator barack obama at the saddle back forum for the president ial candidates, he was sked to say, what is one issue on which youve changed your political opinion . E said i have to say welfare reform. I was on the side that said it was going to be a horror for families but it was a success. You cant fight the facts of how this has worked in the past. We should talk about it and logic to the other programs. Right down here. Said gressman jordan you that deadlines for action. Obviously you just last week for 1. 7 a deadline people ran out and it was not and not y the senate going through. Are these people not finding jobs because of the lack of a ion or trying or is there bigger issue that needs to be addressed . A host of things. The phenomenon cited about what the obamacare can be theyre on unemployment on an extended period of time theyre not lways the First Applicant that the employer will go for. Theres that dynamic a host of reasons there. Things we can do in the policy area that will help overall economy. You have tax policy and regulatory policy and debt policy, and all those things contribute to the fact were not growing and including obamacare Welfare Program and the disincentives. Focus on though policies that empower people. Earlier i s speaking was struck i keep telling reminds me but f things we did in the mid 90s. We did a thing in ohio school cleveland. Gram in it went to the Supreme Court and was constitutional and held up. At the time cleveland had a 32 , spendingte of about 6,500 per kid. The the Program Program started kindergarten, first, and 2 second. 7,000 red 2,000 spots, moms on a mission kicking and scratching to get the golden lined up for that golden ticket. Think about what they were saying. 6,500, give me 2250 better dom to get to a school. And the typical family to bobs of them ngle mom, many africanamerican and many of them had been on or were on ublic assistance but they knew one thing, they wanted a better life for their kid. Want their kid going to the at the time cleveland ublic schools. Thats an empowerment model where people my neighbor got one of these and it is still going on lot of kids. Ped a thats got to be the focus as and empowering people going in there and making a difference right in their family. Thing. One more quick you said that conservatives need the champions doing things 70 ight way and not the that arent. How does somebody reconcile that . Well, its not a matter youre ignoring the 70 are, just as conservatives we need to know how many of those 70 have rn in the recovered from it who have been redeemed . Any conservative redemption studies. Took members of congress in washington, d. C. , drug and alcohol Treatment Program, faith there were 50 marriages of people who were on recovered from it and restored their lives. We need to go beyond the initial well, how many people have recovered from this bad start they had . Have been recovered and what is the state of those people . To be reporting on and writing columns and restoration and redemption. Every time you hear conservative instead of us always being liberals, we must be the group that inspires people you may havethough start redemption is possible and here and here is it. Ence of at our banquets i want to you eet two young ladies who were homeless in a Homeless Center and now theyre in college. Them graduated high valedictorian and they were studying by their by the light on their mothers phone. Hey ought to be conservative champions. Every banquet, every conference. At least 7 or 8 young eople born under some great trying and difficult triumphed overut these hard conditions. We ought to be writing about them. Bob participated in a project called seek social justice and did as well and others. Did exactly what he was talking about, correctly and how to overcome them. About churches, communities and businesses so the bad guy, d as but with really important serve give to a community in terms of work and training. One of the reasons that bobs ork is so important and important for many reasons, but he helps us diagnosis the things in go beyond the material this conversation. We have had too much of the aterialistic conversation for the last half century. We need to go deeper and the challenges are deeper. Its a lot of social capital and relational capital nd the organizations that are working with bob are ones that re building relationships, theyre meeting individuals at a relational level and helping them. The way thatranted social capital has represented helped us where we are today. So Many Americans dont have that luxury. Give that and thats an opportunity all of us need to be various spheres of society and not just public policy. Star parker. You. Hank back to the question of wage loss. Im wondering this gentlemans the high we have ground now on School Choice and thanks to cleveland and the in 2003 ourt decision we are winning that. Ut wage is a challenge because workers are challenged as you have suggested. Wondering if the president is having now 10. 10 we about could look at these hard hit zip over a way to 5 as the congressman said the national dialogue. We might not be able to get anything through but work has to e created in these environments. There is a competition with the llegal community that is at 2 so perhaps this is a good time to roll it into welfare reform. Question and again ill go back to my remarks. You think about the first job learned those ou valuable skills and principals. Than probably less working for minimum wage. I think you make a good point we should explore were i tell people out of work, volunteer. You cant get anymore sub than that. And demonstrate to people that you have values and theyll hire hire you they ey wont let you go. Do. s what we have to great point. Right here. I just two points. I just learned inner terpb ships are under attack that you ave obligations of someone bringing on an intern which is scaring people from bringing on internships. My largest point is inspiration we political and narrative hear is jobs, jobs, jobs. Entrepreneurs, Small Business are disciplined people who build a cess little more than traepl, baking shop beginning at decimated byle but the theft of content from the Online Technology companies. Focus tends to be i. P. And having an idea that people can start at home. What are you doing to ensure and protect neighborhood and enterprise from technology stealing peoples moving forward and separate from that whatever woodson, nning for mr. Im on board. God bless those who have got nothing to say and have the good sense not to say it. Colleagues on y that one. Technology is not my area of expertise. On the you have agenda did. E this morning. We should protect peoples intellectual property across the board. Inaudible great point. Right here. A comment. Really i did harry reads office to tell about his thought opinion about the cbo report and wasnt that stupid. Up on elled at and hung by the person at harry reads office. To hire somebody else. You can work on that one . The reaction was. He told me i dont have time you. Isten to people like thats harry reids office. Lot of people. I did my First College out of college and i always wondered about this. War on poverty and i worked out on long island and very high and my job was outh corp to spend people to Training Programs to require skills. One year and turned into a conservative from heart liberal. I sent a hundred people to go to different Training Programs. End of the year i discovered only two people completed the Training Programs. In prison anyway. Of the other 98, they kept going weeks and coming back. Hat i discovered the incentive in my young heart thought okay, he they want to be skilled and class. The middle but they didnt want that. Ride. Anted the plane once they were there a couple of weeks and it was really boring skill, y had to learn a they quit and come back and i would send them on another plane wondered if ways anybody tracked how many or le how many trillions millions of dollars went away on that program. Our president s program, lindon b. Johnson. Id anybody ever track that and found out if anybody finished . I cant comment on that although we could look that up or you. What i will say the structure of the policy that congressman would work. Its based on the simple premise and ould provide a hand up not a hand out. Popular. Xtremely 80, 90 of americans are support have this policy. Is, if you are receiving aid, should you be work or at king for least preparing for work. Polici. Ery flexible twenty cy would say by sixteen 4 Million People need to be participating on a monthly activities either working for work or preparing for work and focuses attention abel bodied adults attendant dance. States would have to put them on path for selfsufficiency make it work on that individuals behalf and not encouraging dependancy. It would require regular you would know whats happening. Insent advising helps people look harder for a dissituation effect but also makes sure languish on the roles longer than is helpful and to move them as quickly as possible towards work. Ctive selfsufficient right here. There was an rdan opportunity, i guess, last week before last for the arm bill for reform for the Food Stamp Program. I dont know if there was incentives or rk the cuts that were made very miniscule in a program thats increased a hundred over the past four years. What happened there and was it a fact it wont pass in the senate . Disappointment was i know you tried to decouple and the nately theyll be on same path in five years. There were some minor changes positive in the Food Stamp Program and some volunteer encouragement of enact work requirements. Ur bill basically builds on that and makes it much, much stronger and mandatory. I voted against the farm bill. We nt like the fact that combine the Nutrition Program with the commodity programs. That makes no sense. Split them up and have two different bills which is what we coming out of the house. The years we have had recently we should be phasing it towards a free market more market oriented system and thats why you saw several of us vote against the final package. The policy we understood to pursue is one that changes the character of public assistance offers a hand up and not a handout and thats what the ood stamp policy and congressmans jordans bill is trying to do. To be distinguish from what happened in the farm bill context. Hopefully a few states will do work requirements but its not of publiche character assistance. There is no reason we cant this next year. It is possible next year you have more conservatives in the senate. The nutrition title next year alone. Do it right next year and then that through the senate. It was a tough loss for they put the when two bills back together but we powerful y strong point throughout that entire unholy bout ending that alliance. First time it had been in 50 years where they they had been through one body of the congress. As part of the bill is there any incentive in there for to work with companies ho would hire welfare recipients to work so that there would be a way of keeping track who are looking for work . Year