Transcripts For CSPAN Key Capitol Hill Hearings 20150416 : v

Transcripts For CSPAN Key Capitol Hill Hearings 20150416

Locally, but throughout the country. It is very needed. Thank you. My name is audrey, i am an associate professor. My question is, in light of the videotapes we have seen, where they are shooting people and just leaving them on the ground to die what are the legal grounds for police regarding giving lifesaving means when their shot someone. And the walter scott case, they live. They say they provided cpr, they did not. What are they legally required to do . To leave them there to die so not to mess with evidence . I was going to ask him, he stepped up for a minute. The question is, we pose the question repose the question. What are the legal requirements for police when using lifesaving means . Are they supposed to leave them there, so as not to disturb evidence . Or are they supposed to save their lives . In the walter scott case, they lied and said they did cpr. Can i have my cocounsel address this . We are dealing with the same issue in cleveland. I will be very direct in response. Each state is governed by its own qualifications. One of the things that should be done to bring cohesion, that there be a mandate nationwide. Humanity is the real aim. As for the earlier question, about the body questions a wonderful idea. But there should be no requirement for someone to have the simple humanity for someone to say they want to get home safely. In the spirit of humanity, the standard to be the same. Some states require and make it mandatory that they do that. California is one. San francisco, they have all of the equipment in the vehicle. Ohio is just poor in that regard. Very, very poor. We see the lack of humanity in the video as it was referenced earlier. The only thing i would add to that is, i would think, and we have two civil lawyers you are involved in these types of cases as prosecutions of civil matters, but the video shows a live person on the ground injured. With no aid administered by Law Enforcement. As that do anything for damages . Absolutely. I think one of the things we are betting on in the rice case, as the New York Times noted the whole notion that this kid is laying on the ground dying in the snow. And the officers are moping around, looking like they are looking for change on the ground. It is hard to watch when you think you know you just shot him. But you dont do anything to help them . If the jury were to receive this case, one of the issues that the lawyers would argue is that the pain and suffering was enhanced by the fact that there was no aid to the injured. One of the questions we talked about earlier, how is it that you cause society to recognize these issues, if passing the law does not do it . The answer was and i dont know exactly because, you know, he said Something Big to me. He lost a case when he had 50 witnesses. And it is true because perception becomes reality. And he also says, you know, you come up there with your client. You are in the judges robe. If he dismisses you, and no one knows about it you better tell the media and the world about it. So when they dismiss your case, he has some repercussions from the community. That is what we are trying to do. Thank god that i want to believe the media has finally started to listen to all of these black lives of being taken with no consequences. I can go statebystate and give you 10 in every state, i know because we represent and most of them. Good afternoon, my name is aaron king and im a member of macedonia baptist church. And i think we all know that Organizational Culture is not established at the bottom, it is established at the top. In an effort to change the culture of the organization, we have seen historically one method that has been effective for a africanamericans, is economic withdrawal. My question today is centered around the idea of economic corrective action. This would be established via a a mandate of four things. When a county executive executive or legislative or mayor, within three years, they must reduce the number of deaths from Law Enforcement by 50 . If they do not reach that goal, they will be terminated. And they do not receive any pension. The second thing would be, the mayor and the police and legislatures at the top of the organization, once they have look at the Previous Year and they have not they see we have a hundred deaths. We have three years to cut that by 50 . If they do not reach that goal in the first year, their salaries get reduced by 20 . Once we get to 51 or 52 , each member of the Law Enforcement community their salary gets reduced. A keeps going up after each death. 6 etc. The next thing, the third thing let me ask you a question . We are to get the expertise appear. Can you post a question . Economic corrective action, with mandates backed up. What is the concept . Thank you, brother king. What i want to do is get past the numbers. To get to the concept, which is critical. He is talking about reincentivizing the way in which we reward Law Enforcement and the critical criminal Justice System. I serve on the corrections board at harvard. Community corrections is a euphemism for parole. It is the same thing. Do we incentivize parole officers by how many people they trail and jail, or do we incentivize them by how many people do not recidivate . Do we Police Departments based upon the number of arrested make, or do we incentivize Police Departments based upon Public Safety becoming better in the community . Ok through the practice of deescalation. So, the concept is brilliant. Because what if the tax at its core because what it attacks at its core, is the incentive is asian ofizing of incarceration. All of those things now we reward. We need to reward the exact opposite. [applause] as a concept, it would be an issue to raise. In many budgets and Police Departments, the budgets are based on raw arrest. I think people may disagree with you on the numbers, but the concept is an issue. Yes maam. Hi, my name is cynthia ward, i am a howard graduate. Im going to defer my question to another howard student. My question is as we close out i would like to have a fervent honest, sincere prayer around these issues. Particularly around ending the mortal victims in the movement. Im sick of seeing the victims healing. Although she says that that was a lawyer move. [laughter] good afternoon, everyone. This can be for anyone on the panel. I am a theological student, i believe prayer changes everything. Especially in this time, action is necessary. I feel that there is i guess my question is, what would be the danger of not doing anything when especially as young back lack people, it produces little to no results. What would be the result of taking action . Well, you know, i think two things. One is that there are obviously a lot of things you want to accomplish. It happens to be a National Issue that many young people are looking at. One of the things that we struggle with, quite frankly, is that we have a youth voice and what we do. A lot of things happen, how can we get those voices, which i believe are the authentic voices , to be a part of the equation . If you exclude those voices, you are never going to get. Make sure that you and others are at the table and that your voices are heard. If your voices are not heard, we do not get the full story. How do we get this right without the full story . What are the needs for us to help . I think there is hope. And that you can see there is change. We have experienced that change a lot, because we are working in the community and young people i get to hear their stories of transformation. I mean real transformation. That is what drives us, we see young people tell the story. There is one in particular, i will share with you today, it is a group called youth build that we work with. We have put in a lot of effort, a lot of funding is behind them. The transformation in those young people who tell their own story is really where it is. If you wait, i will make sure you have that. We have to have your voice, otherwise we will never get this right. Thank you. As sister more noted, we are seeing things change. In ferguson, missouri, or a percent of all where eight were sent 8 voted, we have three victories. When the fcc capped the interstate phone call rate for federal institutions. In new york, stop and frisk was judged illegal. And when attorney general eric holder announced a reduction, we get these smart sentencing act. The Second Chance act is coming up. We have a momentum going now that you can either the only people fighting this are the folks making money off of it. Basically, that is the criminal Justice System where there is incentivizing. And special prosecutors and the companies that are making money off of the slave labor in the private prison companies. They are the only people fighting this. I was at a summit to weeks ago and the keynotes talking the stuff work cory booker and newt gingrich. The only people fighting it are the people making money off the system. The only reason is not moving faster is that we havent owned this as an issue. Thank you. We have one final question, please introduce yourself. And let us know what your question is. I would just like to first start off by saying hello and thank you for your time. On behalf of my classmates here at howard university, i would like to thank you very much. Thank you for coming. My question is pertaining to the Community Policing. This is a conversation that i have had and one of my classes. Do you think yes or no that Community Policing the relationship between black communities and Police Departments can be mended . Do we think that, that is what our professor asked. I like to ask you all, do you think it is a good idea to move forward with implementing Community Policing increasing Community Policing structures in especially black communities. Do you think it is a good idea despite the fact that we have not received any kind of repayment for Police Brutality against our people . How can we really open up and trust this willingly . Without receiving some kind of repayment, i know it may seem kind of unrealistic to have our hands out, i like the idea that i heard about having the least turn in their badges. From where i stand, a question that boils inside of me, what i want to do and engage having Police Officers in my community. Right now, where i am from in bedfordstuyvesant, we stop communities all the time. I do not believe it is a part of the structure, we have not been really informed. Its really a good idea, the psychological issues passed down from generation to generation. Can we trust the police as black people . We havent received anything that says we have surrendered cop surrendering to us. But we are getting down on our knees to allow them willingly into our neighborhood. And sure, it is better to have a relationship than none at all. I guess. But what do you guys think . [applause] sorry about the microphone. I know were not supposed to touch it here. I just want to share with you a story. I told you a little bit about it , but we do not have time to walk through it. What happens in this scenario, we bring people who are all wanted. With hundreds of us in Law Enforcement and the courts coming together, what happens at that moment, when people are there to really help there is a very miraculous and even transformative need to helping each other. In that scenario, you saw officers running for hot chocolate. You saw people waiting out in the cold, throwing all their change on the ground because they wanted to get in. You had people coming together that you had to witness, you have to witness this process. When the young man told you he had a new destiny, he meant that. It really was because the church was there. The clergy is also there, what is happening is there is guidance there. There is a spiritual guidance, there is social services there it becomes a hover for great things that can happen. Once you witness those kinds of things, you understand that it is possible. That all things are possible. The second part of your question, i want to flip it just a little bit. One of the things i have worked on in the past, the operative word is court. The operative ward in Community Policing is policing. But theres another piece to that. What is the role of community and Community Policing . That is our question to decide what is our role . That is what you are saying, i think, what is the role . That is something we have to sit down and work out together what that looks like. And how we can determine what happens in the neighborhood and have control and a place where the same Mutual Respect that we see in our initiative happens. One of the things we say all the time we are expecting nothing less and all the times that we do this. Where we have thousands of people moving a lot of people and volunteers. Not one time did we have any incident of vandalism, of any trouble. Because we all walked through the doors of the house of worship knowingly were there to help one another. That is where it turns, and that is where you see humanity. Dont give up. Help us figure out where this can happen so you can see it. [applause] i know you have put some thought into it. And i want to save the last issue for you, you get the closing remarks. Professor, our last comment from the panel. Did you understand it . I did. And i have a lot of respect for mrs. Moores comment. One of the issues we are working on his at at Harvard Sondra Smith who is on the faculty of berkeley, we are working on defining the communitys role. Right now, Community Policing doesnt have a role for the community. It is an initiative that they said this is what we want you to do. As opposed to negotiating with us, because there are not a lot of people like mrs. Moore. We do not want to hear from you not on the government side. We have seen examples of effective partnerships, and i would just. 21 in the city of boston. Point to 1. In the city of boston, there was a 29 month. Without a single juvenile homicide. It was a partnership between the law community, the clergy a goes back to changing the quarter of Law Enforcement. What changed in boston was the catholic church. Because a lot of the white cops in boston were Roman Catholic. And the Roman Catholic cardinal of boston bought into the strategy. And so it was not just about mobilizing the black church, it was mobilizing faith communities in which Law Enforcement officers served. To help them get a better understanding what their role might be. You have policeman in boston climbing the steps of the Hancock Building i dont know boston that well. Boston is hancock, isnt it . I was thinking boston or chicago. Getting job applications for young people to get summer jobs. Cops are doing that. They came because the Faith Community of Law Enforcement themselves are parts of the strategy. This isnt a black problem, ok. This is a communitywide problem. Our Community Needs to be strengthened, they need to be transformed, we know what works. It is a matter of having the will to get what is done. I will turn it back over to kwame. I would like to end with a quote from Charles Hamilton houston that addresses these issues and the role of the lawyer on civil rights. He says, a lawyer is either a social engineer or he is a parasite on society. A social engineer was a highly substantive lawyer who understood the constitution of the United States and knew how to explore its uses in solving a problem with local communities and in bettering conditions of the underprivileged citizens. That quote was around 1929, we are still looking at those issues. As i turned back over to you kwame, we had a Panel Discussion on issues that are relevant. Even if youre not have children, if you watch the news, you see what is going on in our world. I think that the fact we are able to put a face and a mothers pain before this audience has been helpful. People understanding that this is not a theoretical or perceptive issue, it is a real issue and it affects people. So kwame, before he turned back over to brother [applause] more now about u. S. Race relations. From washington journal, this is 40 minutes. It is our regular spotlight black life matter. It takes a look at that shooting South Carolina. Justin worland of time magazine. Good morning. Guest good morning. Host could you tell us the latest of where we are on the shooting of walter scott . Guest we really have not seen too much come out since the day the video was released. The agency that took over the investigation is a state Law Enforcement agency in South Carolina. They have been pretty mom, as they have been pretty mum, as you would expect. It might be days or weeks before they handed over to the prosecutor. We heard soundbites, that perhaps it is not a case where they would be pursuing the death penalty. But we really do not know. The case is still in the hands of the investigator, the state Law Enforcement agency, and they have not said much. Host how would you describe the relationship between the Police Department and the community . Guest i think there is a lot of tension. The Police Department has changed a lot in the last decade or so, and in 2002 they brought in a new police chief who came in to crack down on violent crime. He did a great job of i

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