Transcripts For CSPAN Politics Public Policy Today 20130927

CSPAN Politics Public Policy Today September 27, 2013

The will of the people. It never was the will of the people. Its a product of hook and crook and legislative shenanigan, its done against the will of the people. Furthermore, Thomas Jefferson, whom both parties revere, once said large initiatives should not be advanced on slender majorities. Large initiatives need to be bipartisan initiatives not completely 100 partisan initiatives which obamacare is. And the slender majority that Thomas Jefferson was talking about was the slender majority that he previewed or presumed to be a bipartisan majority. If jefferson had been talking about a partisan majority, it would have been clear in my opinion what he would have said. He would have said large initiatives should never be advanced on partisan majorities. Thats what happened with obamacare. The Largest Initiative that has been jammed down the throats of the American People in its entire history is obamacare, advanced on a purely partisan majority by utilization of legislative shenanigan and hook and crook. Thats what got us to this pount. People wonder why point. People wonder why dont you throw up your hands, accept reality that obamacare is the law of the land, let it be, fund it, because the people have spoken. The people had spoken. They spoke when they elected scott brown. And in the aftermath of the passage of obamacare in march, 2010, rch 20 or 21, of the people spoke again that following november. I remember when obamacare passed in the night and i had been battling this thing for days and i went home about 1 30 or 2 00 in the morning, maybe later than that, but it was when the business wound down here in the house, mr. Speaker, and i went home and i thought, im going to lay down and going to sleep the sleep of the exhausted. And im going to get completely rested up and im going to wake up in the morning and then im going to put a plan together on what we do now. Because i knew that the bill was a message to the white house, and i knew the president was salivating to sign it. He did that within about 48 hours. I woke up, though, in about 2 1 2 hours because the wheels were turning. And i couldnt take it any longer and i drafted the language to repeal obamacare and had that formal request to get that bill handed back to me by the draft people we have here when the door opened at 9 00 that morning. We have been doing battle with obamacare ever since. Not only me. A gentlelady from minnesota that was down here and led an hour special order earlier today has been standing there and ran on for president on the issue, Michelle Backman bachmann. She would repeal obamacare. Louie gohmert has been putting hour after hour here on the floor and around this country doing battle with obamacare. The list of people that deserve credit for stepping up to this fight is long. It isnt exclusive here in the house, mr. Speaker. It certainly includes a group of stalwarts in the senate. Led in this latest episode by senator ted cruz of texas who stood on the floor for more than 21 hours and delivered a whole series of arguments against obamacare. But ill say heres the argument. The argument that is at the center of obamacare, mr. Speaker. And it is this. Obamacare is by my opinion an unconstitutional takings of godgiven american liberty. It takes away our right to manage our health. The most sovereign thing that we have is the American People is our soul. And our soul, the eternal nature of our soul, is controlled by god and our will. This federal government hasnt figured out how to nationalize our soul. But the second most sovereign thing we have is our bodies, our health, our skin, and everything inside it. The second most sovereign thing that we have. And the federal government under obamacare has figured out how to nationalize our skin and everything inside it. A federal government takeover of the management of our health. Where under obamacare, if you walk into a clinic, if you walk into an emergency room, if you apply for government approved insurance under whatever means t might emerge when no one can really tell us at this point, the government decides whether you get the insurance, the government decides whether you get a subsidy for the premium, the government decides what kind of Research Gets done, what kind of treatment one gets. The government decides if youre worth the hip replacement or Knee Replacement or whether you get just painkillers for as long as you can live with a broken hip. The government decides that. Not us any longer. Now, we understand that, those of us that have a little bit of gray hair or maybe lost some. We understand that, but do the children in our grade schools and nurseries today understand that . Mr. Speaker, we know that answers no. They dont understand that. When these children grow up and get out of school and step into adulthood and they have already been brought up in a system of obamacare that makes these decisions for them, what happens to their dreams . What happens to their aspirations . What happens to their ability to think big . What happens to their ability to manage their life . The institutional memory of the culture and civilization that will disappear that remembers the glorious time when we could choose our doctor. When the market demand created the insures policies that suit us, the consumers. When we could shop from doctor to doctor, from clinic to clinic. When we could say, you know, i want this care for my mother this badly that i think even though that she is 85 she needs a hip replacement because i dont want to see her die in a wheelchair. Thats a different world than we have today. And i would be happy to yield to the speaker. The speaker pro tempore the chair will receive a message. The messenger mr. Speaker, a message from the snafment the secretary mr. Speaker. The speaker pro tempore madam secretary. The secretary i have been directed by the senate to inform the house that the senate has agreed an amendment to h. R. H. J. Res. 59, making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes. In which the concurrence of the house is requested. The speaker pro tempore the gentleman from iowa may proceed. Mr. King thank you, mr. Speaker. Could i ask the speaker the number of that h. J. Res. Thats just been messaged . I missed that. The speaker pro tempore h. J. Res. 59, continuing resolution. Mr. King i thank you for that response. Now that tells me, mr. Speaker, that we have just gotten message to us that a c. R. , continuing resolution, from the United States senate, that the vote had concluded over on the other side, down the other end, through the rotunda. And the senate has now acted to peel out the ban on funding for obamacare and send us back what they would call a clean c. R. With their changes and provisions which would include continuing resolution up until november 15. So it is a shorter term c. R. Than we offered to them, but what it says is, we as senators are not going to, we are not going to we are not going to let you prohibit the funding of obamacare, and again we are back to the center and crux of this. Another dramatic event is taking place here in the United States capitol. And the drama of this now is in the lap of the house of representatives where our speaker has just received the message of h. J. Res. 59, the c. R. Now we have a decision to make. And my message, mr. Speaker, is this, if 218 house members hold our ground, if we say we will not Fund Obamacare and we will not fund an appropriation that fails to cut off the funding to obamacare, if we hold our ground, we will win. This contest now thats going on is a contest of wills. And theres a relatively narrow majority in the senate. Theres a little bit broader majority in the house, i believe. And the strength of will is being measured. This is like holding a gun on each other now, standing in a burning building, and deciding who is going to blink. But we cant just let down the hammer and stand there because the building is burning. Somebody has to walk away from this confrontation and say ill give you your way. My message to this, mr. Speaker, is that we hear this message over and over again. If there is a Government Shutdown, House Republicans will always lose in a confrontation with the president. I dont know that thats true. And i dont know it even was true in 1995 and 1996 when there was a Government Shutdown that lasted for 21 days. What i do know is this house sent the funding to keep our government opened over to the senate. With it was language that said, no funding to implement or enforce obamacare. It happens in language i wrote and presented to this congress in 2011. We have said we want this government to stay open. We want to avoid a shutdown. Avoid a shutdown. Avoid a shutdown. If we repeat that enough times it might be sending a message to the senators we dont mean it when we say we are not going to Fund Obamacare. I want to send the message, mr. Speaker, that we do mean it. I want to send the message that we are going to hold our ground. And id like to remind, mr. Speaker, that there have been a whole series of shutdowns throughout history. And as i look through some of those and i have a list of them printed here, there were at least five Government Shutdowns when jimmy carter was president. Five of them. Five incidents, one was over a Nuclear Battleship of some kind. The longest shutdown he had was 18 days. Does anybody remember those shutdowns from the 1980s . Kind of. Didnt change my life that i remember. But that was democrats in majority in the house and senate. And democrat president. And their infighting caused Government Shutdowns for a total of 57 days. 57 days between 1977 and 1981, and sometimes jimmy carter won. Sometimes the democrats in the house and senate prevailed over the president of the United States. All the same party. So if we dont remember the price paid for a Government Shutdown, if the inconvenience of it doesnt linger in anybodys memory, i take you to the era of Ronald Reagan when there were a number of shutdowns under Ronald Reagan, fewer and shorter period of time, one of them was over 1 is billion in social spending. And of that 1 billion the government was shut down for three days. In that period of time by wait there was a republican majority in the United States senate. We had a principled republican president , democrats in the majority here in the house. The democrats refused to agree with the president and the senate that resulted in a Government Shutdown, and in that shutdown that lasted in the end 1 billion in spending that democrats here wanted was negotiated down to 900 million. They gave up 10 of what they asked for, and the government was opened back up again. So a determined majority in the house of representatives prevailed to the level of 90 of their asked against a republican majority in the senate that opposed them and a president who has clearly held his ground in case after case. It is clear who prevails in an issue like this. But ill say this. The American People will judge our resolve and our determination. And the determination on who wins and who loses if that actually matters will be written by history. But i say this, mr. Speaker, if we hold our ground, i believe there will not be a political price for House Republicans to pay. When House Republicans held their ground and eventually caved in 1995 and 1996, some say House Republicans lost that. They lost eight seats in the following election. They did not lose the majority. Six of those eight seats were marginal seats. They were likely to lose anyway. So perhaps they lost two congressional seats. Now, if we dont want to put at risk two congressional seats out of the House Republican majority to stand on the principle that cuts off all funding to implement and enforce obamacare, is our fear for our political jobs greater than our love of principle and the people we represent . I would argue instead there will not be political consequences for standing on principle and refusing to Fund Obamacare. If there are political consequences, they will be recovered from over time. But we, mr. Speaker, can never recover from obamacare if its implemented and enforced. That is the bottom line. No political consequences will be delivered to the people who stand up for the American People. Thats the House Republican stands. Hats the thats the Senate Conservative stance that came down a short while ago on the other side of the capitol. As we stand as principled people and look back at that time, scott brown came to the United States senate because the blue state massachusetts rejected obamacare, there was a wave election in 2010 that elected 87 new House Republicans. Every one of them ran on repeal of obamacare. Every republican in the house and senate has voted multiple times to undo repeal, deFund Obamacare, all of them standing together, it was bipartisan the last time. We had two democrats that also agreed with us on this c. R. We must stand on principle. If there is a political price to be paid for standing on principle, i say its worth it. We can recover from any political price even though i dont believe there will be but a political reward, but we can never recover if we allow obamacare to be implemented or enforced. Thats my stand, mr. Speaker. Thats the stand that i ask my colleagues to take, today, tomorrow, the next day and every day if we hold together and we holdn the end the beneficiaries will be the American People and godgiven liberty. Mr. Speaker, i yield back the balance of my time. The speaker pro tempore the gentleman yields back. For what purpose does the gentleman from iowa seek recognize snigs mr. King mr. Speaker, i move that the house do now adjourn. The speaker pro tempore the question is on the motion to adjourn. Those in favor say aye. Those opposed, no. The ayes have it. The motion is adopted. Accordingly, the house stands adjourned until 10 00 a continuing resolution by a vote. F 5444 it now returns to the house. That Senate Version had the health care d funding language stripped out of it. It had the health care defunding language stripped out of it. This afternoon we plan to bring as much as we can in terms of briefings about the cr and the debate this weekend. Senate emma kratz just wrapped up their Briefing Senate democrats just wrapped up their briefing. Up next, from earlier today, u. S. Representative Rick Crawford, republican, introduced a resolution that calls the Health Care Law and Entitlement Program and asks whether the federal government should spend aer 1 trillion on it during debt crisis. They held a briefing this morning just outside the house of representatives. Ready . Thank you all for coming out today. We just came out to provide a little bit of perspective here. Some of the things that are being talked about with regards to the cr and obamacare being at the center of this debate, number one, we know americas up to our eyeballs in debt. We do not think it is time to rush forward with trillions in new entitlement spending. I am introducing a resolution that would simply ask that question. Members can say yes or no me area yes or no. Does it make sense to move ahead with 1. 3 trillion in new entitlement spending when we are in the middle of a debt crisis . We are going to put the question to all the members. Our answer is no pure we hope our colleagues across the aisle and across the capital will see that as an opportunity and also say that it does not make sense. In that light, we can take appropriate action. That is our resolution, basically calling on members to explain why they think it is a good idea to rush forward with 1. 3 trillion in new entitlement spending when we are in the middle of a debt crisis. I want to thank the members that have come out today. We appreciate it. We know they are all busy and have things to be doing. I appreciate them being here today. If there are any questions, i would be happy to answer them. Flemingng to let dr. Speak. He obviously is a medical doctor and can comment with some detail on this. Thank yall for coming out. I am congressman john fleming from louisiana, physician, Small Business owner. Yesterday, the president was giving a speech in maryland, and he quoted a congressman saying that the congressman said that obamacare is the worst piece of legislation ever. Well, ladies and gentlemen, that congressman was me. And i fully stand behind that statement. As you just heard congressman crawford say, for heaven sakes, during a time when we have an Entitlement Programs that illafford, we are now launching even a new Entitlement Program that will be a Mass Transfer of income from one class of able to another. Destroying our income, destroying jobs, and really perversely actually removing people from the Health Care Roles they are already on. Why in the world would we want to do that . In the final analysis, what obamacare represents for the losscan people is not only of insurance that they already have, but a steep rise in the cost of their health care and their insurance and a loss of their jobs or a reduction of that job down to parttime. Because we know that since the beginning of the year, 77 of ,ll new jobs are partt

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