Mr. Buchanan im sure it there are some, like a joint chief and others, who have not written memoirs yet, but im not sure they are going to. In terms of written memoir, this is probably the last of someone who was right there and it knew it from the beginning. Brian what did you put in this book that you never talked about before . Mr. Buchanan the origins of the agnew speech, the memos on that. There were a number of notes in my files of that i dug out. There is a description of how i almost defected on the china trip, i was so unhappy with it. There is also the end of it, where you put in that quote by john osborne, he said he had seen shelley and me on Inauguration Day in 1969 and then he saw how it all ended, he was an old liberal curmudgeon and it breaks your heart. All of this is fresh and new. Most of the memorandum had never been published. What that is about is, what it was like as a young conservative in the nixon white house, trying to do battle for your beliefs, and the opposition you faced. ,rankly, how nixon operated held the whole thing together until watergate collapsed him. Brian you mentioned agnew. The des moines speech. Before we go there, what role did it play . Mr. Buchanan toward the end of his first year, the massive demonstrations with the mobilizations were being held on Monument Grounds and it was time and, newsweek were saying Richard Nixons presidency is in danger of being woken. A liberal columnist wrote that, the breaking of a president. I wrote the president a memo saying, you have to stand up. When we have to keep those kids over there fighting and dying in vietnam. Nixon gave his famous great silent majority speech in 1969, smashing triumph. 70 of the country backed him , but thatod with him night after the speech finished, the networks trashed it. Most americans got their news from the world from these three networks and nixon was angry and had told me to write letters and telegrams. He said this was a time to take on the network directly at a high level. The way to do it is a speech by the Vice President of the United States, which i would write. He came back with a memo that photo is in the book, where he has seen, go ahead. I went through three drafts, which is not a great number and , i was called over to the oval office and there sat the president with his glasses on, which he never wore, coat and tie, sitting there at the desk, editing my phrases. Then he murmured, this will tear the scab off those bastards. And i broke out laughing and he broke out laughing. Agnew went out to deliver that speech in des moines and i got word where i worked, abc was going to go live with it. And i was nervous so i went to the University Club and went swimming and they called me from the pool and said, pat, nbc and cbs are going live with it. I said this is it are going to be a Great Success or a careerender. The reaction was sensational. Letters the whole , country stood with us in the sentiment about the networks and about television. That night, i drove out to Andrews Air Force base at about 3 00 a. M. And got the Board Air Force two. Agnew invited me down to cape canaveral. He comes on the plane late and says, gangbusters. It was just a phenomenal moment. Agnews attacks on the network at des moines and the followup attack on the Washington Post and New York Times in montgomery, alabama, that i think was the real making of the president. If you can believe it, at the end of that year, Richard Nixon was at 68 approval and 19 disapproval. Astonishing. Here was a fella who, seven years before, was the biggest loser in american politics. Brian lets see a little bit of that speech in des moines. November 13, 1969 in des moines. Every american has a right to disagree with the president of the United States and expressed express publicly that disagreement, but the president of the United States has a right to disagree [applause] and the people of this country have the right to make up their own minds and form their own opinions about a president ial address. Without having a president s words and thoughts are derived through the prejudices of hostile critics before they can be digested. Brian i remember that happened around dinner hour or 6 00 or 7 00 at night. Mr. Buchanan around 7 30 at night. Thats correct. Ist agnew is talking about the fundamental point. It exists today. The president of the United States, in those days, a number of people had custody of how and what would be seen of the president of the United States and how it would be presented because they control all three networks. I was a 12 people would make this decision and if so, in effect, the direct communication between president and the people, they would present it as they saw fit and what excerpts they saw fit, and we almost couldnt live with this. And the president was constantly on the phone and things and calling for letters to the editors and telegrams. I said, this is nonsense. You were seen by 50 Million People, the network commenting , it was seen by 50 Million People and we cannot turn this around with letters to the editor. So we elevated that issue and it exists to this day and i think that was the first strike. Brian why did they decide to carry it live . Because they would never do that in those days. Mr. Buchanan we put in phrases at the end, whether what i would say is heard by the American People doesnt depend on you and doesnt depend on me. They decide what they hear and dont hear. Thats exactly right. As i recall, we had a quote from Frank Reynolds of abc, who had written this horrible thing during the campaign of 1968, saying nixon is retaining his ability to hit his people with a meat ax. We had quotes and things like that, which were a challenge in the defiance of them and then in effect, goaded them into putting it out there. They put it on the air because they thought agnew was being trashed as an individual individual who had no sensitivity and did not understand the first amendment. They thought the public would say, my goodness, these nixon people want to censor the news and restrict the first amendment. But the American People loved it. It was the making of Vice President agnew, who for that, in 1968 wase that, regarded the press as some think of a buffoon. Brian you write a lot about the book, what impact did it have on you when you found out he was taking cash money in envelopes . Mr. Buchanan he had a press conference and there were reports and rumors he was being investigated like george bell, a friend of mine, a u. S. Attorney. I went up and watched agnew make a defined statement and ron zigler seemed to undercut agnew. I said, why are we not standing by the Vice President . He said, come on over. I went into his office, the chief of staff Corner Office that haldeman had and he said, we are taking in envelopes from the basement. I was shattered by this. Agnew was a good friend of mine. Him, weo i liked were buddies. He had real courage. He was just a terrific fella. He had a lot of fun. You can play tricks on the guy and he enjoyed it. I was really agonized and disappointed with that. I remember writing him a note. Brian did you ever talk to him after that . Mr. Buchanan i did not talk to him about what happened and why, but in aid used to, whenever agnew came to town, he would call a number of his Close Friends bryce harlow would be there and the schulz from his shop, everybody would have a couple drinks and talk about the great days. He was fun to travel with. Brian there are a lot of Different Things you touch on. Before i do that, i what to ask you that i have never heard you do. I want to talk about your brothers and sisters. You have eight of them. You mentioned a couple, henry, how many of them are still alive and what do they fit in the family and what do they do . Mr. Buchanan my two oldest brothers bill died when i was , 45, my brother hank died a few years ago. I am the oldest now of nine. And my brother who served in vietnam, he has six kids, hes a dentist and living out in maryland, montgomery county. Below him in age is my sister kathleen, who worked for bill kristol for a while and then worked in a Vice President s shop, Vice President quayle, and shes got three kids now and has lost a kid. Below her is my brother jack, john edward buchanan, who coaches basketball and is a Business Executive in kensington. Brian maryland, right out here. Mr. Buchanan maryland. Ay, generalis b macarthur who ran my campaign. She was high on romney and she became a mormon. Shes high on romney in 2012 and when that was over, she was disillusioned and got out of politics. She is in real estate and doing well. She lives out in oakton, a little beyond tysons corner. Then there is my brother brian who went down to bedford when he got out of medical school. He is a doctor in bedford just , down near roanoke, lynchburg, sort of up in the hills. Its got that famous role or two that famous world war ii memorial where all those guys from bedford come to shore on omaha beach were wiped out. Then there is my brother tom, a managing partner at winston strong. He lives on gerald ford drive, near Episcopal High School where john mccain went to high school. Hes getting along well. Thats where they are and what they are doing. But we all grew up in washington , d. C. My mother used to work as a nurse at providence hospital. Born and raised in the blessed sacrament. Buchanan family field is the name of the football field. Once georgetown on the fiveyear plan. Brian i remember hearing you getting kicked out of georgetown. Mr. Buchanan when i got aboard the plane with agnew, somebody got aboard after me and i looked over at it was the head of Loyola College or university at the time and it was instant recognition. Father joe had expelled me from Georgetown University after an altercation with the police when i was a senior in october 1959. This was dug up by Jack Andersons deputy when i was in the white house writing speeches about how these kids, we need to crack down on student disorders. Brit hume calls me up and says, pat, i want to read you something here. You were arrested and this is what you are charged with. What do you have to say for yourself for fighting with the police . I said, well i was ahead on points until they brought out the sticks. [laughter] one of my better lines when you have no defense. Brian mom and dad, what were they like . Mr. Buchanan my father was an autocrat, very autocratic. As i mentioned from the beginning and an earlier book, his three political heroes were joe mccarthy, general macarthur, and francisco franco. In spain, he was a very devout catholic. He went to gonzaga before i did. He came out of a broken family, his father had left him, the jesuits came by and got him when he graduated from holy trinity. They brought him down to gonzaga and he raises nine kids. Sawe towns you so you that trump was visiting, i used to go up there after the war. My mom was one of eight kids and all four of my younger brothers fought in the vietnam operations. My cousins were telling my sister there is nothing out here except trump signs. And thats how he won the election in pennsylvania. That Southwest Corner of pennsylvania. The eastern part of ohio. I have been up there at the steel mill in west virginia. Thats where he won the election. Brian theres a quote from Richard Nixon in your book that says, i have never seen an extremist like you that has a sense of humor. Something like that. Where did he say that . Mr. Buchanan i challenge george h. W. Bush, 10 weeks before the New Hampshire primary in 1972 and my sister and i went up to challenge the president of the United States in the New Hampshire primary. When i got up there, the polls showed bush at 6570 , the cannon at 16 , and even duke at 6 in the polls. We ran a tough campaign against bush, state of their constantly, and he closed the gaps at 50 or some odd points at 15 points. 5137 or Something Like that. It was a tremendous moral victory and the press played it up huge. We went to georgia and did almost as well, then we had super tuesday and there were eight areas. I got wiped out in every single one. So nixon was in new jersey and i lost 10 in a row. I called nixon in new jersey, and i said mr. President , 10 for 10, not bad, eh . [laughter] he says, buchanan, you are the only extremist i note with a the only extremist i know with a sense of humor. Come on up, bring shelley and bring your secret service detail. It was a pleasant visit i had with the old man. That was two years before he died. Just before he died, i called him in new jersey and said, we have not talked. He said, im coming down to d. C. He would come down, Washington Hotel was on this its over toward georgetown. Brian washington circle, right. Mr. Buchanan exactly. He would come down there and he was so alert. Was up, whos up, whos down. It was like the first time i met. Im he was so interested his whole life and politics, personalities, issues. He was consumed by this. I thought of it from january 6 26 from when i met him to the organ primary, i was there for 35 hours a day in his office. It became ziglar and al haig. But the old man needed to have the talking constantly exploring this issue, what do you think . Calling you back in, and its a feature my wife was with the Vice President when he was Vice President , when nixon was Vice President , but i dont know ive noticed that was a characteristic of him. Brian you were sitting across the desk from him. You say in the book you had a threehour interview chat with in 1966. E he hired you how old were you . Mr. Buchanan i had just turned 27. Brian what was that like . Mr. Buchanan it was not a hard interview for me because he was asking about issues and i was an editorial, six weeks out of journalism school. The editorial editor said, you can write editorials until we hire a replacement. I was working so hard that they kept me and move the other editorial out. We had to editorial writers at editorial editors at the globe democrat. So i was writing immediately on every issue local, statewide, things i was initially unaware of, for policy, domestic, everything. I was doing this for three and a half years and writing other pieces, as well. President nixon would ask me about various things in this threehour meeting, i was on it. Past the oral exam with flying colors. He said after the three hours, i would like to hire you for one year. Here is the reason. I want you to help write the column i have to write once a month, get this mail pile down, to press work, do the other things. Wait outside my office. He said one year because i am going to campaign for the republicans in 1966. If we do not get back some of these massive losses from the goldwater campaign, the nomination in 1968 is not going to be worth anything. He predicted we would win 40 seats in the house and the returns came in, we won 47 in the house. This was november, 1966, and we were on our way to the white house. Brian when did you see him at his angriest moment for you . And how did he react when he was angry . Mr. Buchanan you know, he never yelled at me. If he got angry, he would yell generically at the wall or sort of, why cant i get some people to do these things . But again, i cannot recall him really enraged at me or maybe, i dont know why, in the book i dont have great recollections of him being enraged but i will say this. I worked for reagan and i remember reagan coming into the cabinet room and i dont know why, he looked at me and said, he exploded. He exploded when he came out of that meeting with gorbachev. Reagan came out, waving around. Waving around human events. Reagan had a healthy temper. Home, tony dolan and i were laughing and celebrating that we did not get president eich of nixon kept it inside himself and brooded. When he would call you night and he was angry at something, the voice is low, i want you to do this or that. He would let things get to him in a way that i dont think president reagan did. There is a certain healthy thing of an anger and getting it out of the system. Thats the difference between the two. Brian during the Nixon Administration and watergate, they all went to prison, they testified, you testified. We have a little piece of video from your testimony. You say you had your brother sit behind you. Why . Mr. Buchanan i had watched all the others of their and they all andll the others up there they all had these lawyers beside them. And as soon as you have a lawyer, hes got a problem, he must have done something. I did not believe i had done anything wrong, that i did need somebody, just to be with you. So i called my brother on the day i was going to testify and i said, can you go over to watergate where i live with shelley . We will go to the white house to get breakfast and then go to the Committee Hearing room and he came up and i said, i do not need you to sit at the table with me, but i want you to sit behind me. In the book, i think i have a picture and its got my brother behind me there and when they would take a break, he would go back in his room with me and we would come back out to the hearing, in and out. You wanted your brother there. I did not need a lawyer. Brian im not sure if its your brother behind you in the videos we have, but tell us if you know who this person is. The president had conducted an admin