Office and will fight the charges. On the next washington journal, we will be joined by writers from the daily beast. First a conversation with editor and chief, john avlon. And then Nancy Youssef will have a discussion on National Security issues. Then later, Jackie Kucinich talks about the religious Freedom Debate and what it means for the republican party. The washington journal is live every morning on cspan and he can join the conversation with your calls and comments on facebook and twitter. Here are some featured programs for the holiday weekend, on cspan former state senator from texas, wendy davis. And on easter sunday, the golfing legend jack nickless receives the congressional gold medal for his contributions to the game and community service. On cspan two, on afterwards cornell west on the radical political thinking of Martin Luther king jr. And sunday on new and, on indepth, a live conversation with a reporter from the Washington Post, ronald kessler. He has written 20 books, including escape from the cia. And on American History tv saturday at 8 00 p. M. , lectures in history, Charles Calhoun on the obstacles faced by ulysses s. Grant during his presidency. And sunday afternoon, on american artifacts, schroeder takes us on a tour of appomattox courthouse in virginia. Freelance journalist james fully was beheaded in august 2014 becoming the First American killed by that group. Next a panel on journalist hostages including the parents of james foley who tried to save their son. Also, Terry Anderson who was held hostage in lebanon. This is 90 minutes. Journalism has changed enormously over the last two decades, it was once the printing printing press, and now moves at the speed of light and cell phones have the whole world in the palm of our hands. Yet, that relentless stream of news has not made the world more comprehensible, speed and technology are one thing context is something else. For me, and for my colleagues in the school of journalism serious journalism the idea of journalism that we share with students begins with a simple idea. It is about being there. Not just to get the story, but to help illuminate places. It is about people crossing frontiers and hope to bring light to stories of people who live in the world cost dr. Pleases. The worlds darker places. But this comes at a price, and it is that reality that brings us together. John and diane foley and Terry Anderson can attest firsthand to this brutal truth. We are grateful to them for coming to share these experiences and thoughts about this hard new world. Today, journalists are seen as a target, not only by terrorist organizations and heart tells, but by oppressive governments. Sense the early 1990s, more than 1100 journalists have been killed, or kidnapped, or driven into exile. It includes local reporters, who lived and worked in these places includes a growing number of freelancers, americans and other westerners, who have enlisted to cover faraway conflict zones. The center for global journalism was launched to try and bring greater focus to challenges being faced by journalists anymore perilous world. Working with academic departments across campus and leveraging the work of our Journalism School faculty, not only a along the borders but in the middle east and afghanistan, we hope to explore programs and initiatives to preserve and extend the free and independent global reporting that is essential to the democratic society. What can we all do as professionals, educators advocates, to support journalists who are out there now . How can we train and equip them and keep them as safe as possible . Leading this discussion, rosenbloom, a faculty member of the Journalism School. Mmort is a former correspondent for the Associated Press. He is the author of several books on reporting and over his career has filed stories out of 200 different countries, and number of which he likes to point out, no longer exist. As morton knows, the essential qualities of a good correspondent has not changed over time. Now as then it is about curiosity, intelligence, importantly it is about empathy and more than ever, these days it is about courage. The numbers are shocking, but tell only part of the story. Behind the statistics are victims that do not know what will happen next, and families that can only hope and pray for Something Better than the worst. In some regions, the death toll for journalist rises with an outbreak of war. It happened in South East Asia in the 1960s and 1970s. In other places, such as a nearby border, the danger is ever present. Since 1992, 32 journalists have been killed in mexico. Until the 1980s, most victims were casualties of war. Journalist were seen as observers, not part of the news, and were seldom targeted. Then, in 1985, Terry Anderson, the Associated Press in beirut, was muscled into a green mercedes. Seven years past the four he could meet his daughter who was born while he was chained to a wall. One capture told him, dont worry this is political. When anderson asked his guard gave him a new red bible. The Associated Press executives worked with u. S. Officials to get him released. The situation changed after 9 11 , journalists were targeted for what they wrote, what they represented. In 2002, wall street journal reporter daniel pearl was executed as he pursued al qaeda activity in pakistan. In the year since, in the years since, the victims have increased. The threat can be seen in france, near the normandy beaches. Any tree shaded park, the monument to reporters, 20 eight columns have been engraved since world war ii, with more than 2000 names. Men and women who have fallen on battlefields, assassinate, or killed in accidents while covering the news. Since 2001, many of the names have been those of journalist hired in their own societies to get stories that outsiders cannot reach. Other names are those of freelancers, who ventured from the United States and other nations to cover news in the most dangerous areas, without the continuing support of a large news organization. Now, with so many freelancers, there people such as david mccraw are working to confront the circumstances faced by journalists and families in perilous situations. This year, a fresh name symbolizes the spirit and kurds, not only a freelance journalist, but also the family and friends who support them. James foley ventured into syria to help make sense of conflict that was shaping the world. He was executed on camera. His message of the importance of news was clear. At the reporter must be there to tell the story. His parents now work tirelessly to make sure that an easily distracted world hears this message. His death is no reason to turn away from the danger. On the contrary, in america and other nations, people must support journalists who choose to go into dangerous places on the publics behalf. Thank you all for coming. We have some Serious Business to discuss this evening. In fact, what can be more important than our eyes and ears in the most careless places. Careless places. Just some background. About two seconds after i met james foley in france, i knew that this meeting had to happen. People seldom get so warm and wonderful, as you will see in a moment. But their courage and strength is beyond any words i can come up with. Among those white columns, you just saw, we mourn also a young french reporter killed on the border in the Central African republic. Diane put aside her own grief to comfort mother. The message is wise and unwavering, we need those brave journalists out there in the ugliest parts of the world to reflect realities that we almost understand. We have to realize what too many learned the hard way, the prices high, not only for them but friends and families at home. The pulleys have started a foundation, we will talk about it tonight. The message to mind my old friend Terry Anderson, a colleague from the ap, for seven years i wore a bracelet with his name on it, awaiting his release. When he emerged from the lions den, none of us could believe his towering spirit, his strength of spirit. Today, he teaches young people exactly what the foleys taught us, reporters must be out there. For today, it is though personal for terry. Salome, that cute little kid that we saw, she is a reporter covering stories and lebanon like her father. I asked terry last night, if he was worried about her. Duh. Happily enough, some gifted people look carelessly to help journalists in trouble. Among them is david mccraw. The New York Times fifth amendment lawyer that was a nice joke, maybe the Second Amendment lawyer in arizona, but it is the first. [laughter] but i underscored the first amendment. He is also with us this evening. We are extremely grateful to have this panel. Actually the foleys are here because they are tired of shoveling snow in new hampshire. It is freezing. David accepted the invitation without a second hesitation. Thank you for coming. When i left tucson, from here, in the 1960s to get mixed up in faraway mayhem, you had to be pretty unlucky or unaware to get into serious trouble. My first post was the congo, covering a mercenary war, with people who believed that their magic amulets turned blank and into water. And the pentagon before they tried to limit our access, and therefore increase ager, we could go anywhere. In asia, africa, the middle east, latin america, we journalists were observers, not part of the stories. Pretty much, across the board combatants left us alone so we could tell their side. All of that has changed today. We are no longer a definable press corps with correspondents that no one another and bosses back home watching our backs. Freelance independent and local reporters hired at low wages operate on their own. Freelance means, no wages, you get what you sell. The governments arrest them, militias hold them hostage gangs with no political purpose kidnapped and ransom them. That is our topic for tonight. What now . Keep in mind, because people tend to forget this, we are talking about journalists. If we as journalists ask our government to protect us, we are asking them to control us. It is a serious conundrum because that is not what we are, we are not representatives of anybodys government, at the same time, u. S. Citizens elect a government to do their business. And one Job Description is helping americans stay alive. We are not a policy pond for any administration. So let me start with terry. Terry, if you could give us a brief rundown of how the u. S. Government first worked with hostages back in the early 1980s and then talk about the Associated Press, what changed how do you see it evolving . Terry the American Government used to look at hostage taking as a criminal enterprise. Just as you do in crimes that involve hostages, what is the first that you do, you bring in a negotiator. That doesnt mean you will give them anything or you will reward them, but you will talk. By the mid1980s, by 1985 when i was taken, the government was the Reagan Administration was insisting that they would not negotiate with terrorists. As we all know, those of us who can remember, the world negotiating they they were negotiating with terrorists as a political matter until they became public and then they stopped. Up until that point, they were talking to families of hostages. My sister, whom many of you may remember, she was a front person for a group of families and it was very outspoken in her advocacy and pressure on the government to get something done. The man in the white house, the marine lieutenant colonel, and she went to him frequently. And then all of a sudden, it stopped. It got cut off. Now, president reagan said we do not negotiate with terrorists and we mean it, it will not happen. But the terrorists did not believe it for quite a wild. But, more importantly, the people in the government that we that our families had been going to for information and help they took refusal as refusal to negotiate as dont talk to anybody, including families. They cut everybody off. That has too much continued since then and i think that mr. And mrs. Foley can testify that that is the way that it goes. It would tell the families, keep quiet, we are doing everything we can, but in fact, it was an excuse to do nothing. Which was a real problem. Mort thank you terry. That is sounding familiar. What has been your experience, you and john . Mrs. Foley this was his second capture, for jim. He had been in libya, which in retrospect was so brief, but at least theyre his capture had been witnessed by a New York Times reporter, and we knew that he was held by the government and thus the state Department Took the lead. Barely in that case clearly in that case, we were in touch with the state department. Actually, it was another person that got him out, nevertheless the state department was in touch with us. The second time was very different. We had no idea who had taken jim. He did not report back to his colleagues on thanksgiving day and we received a call from another freelancer who had been awaiting his return, that jim did not show up. That they had been stopped at one point and captured. So we did not know what to do. It was surreal that this would happen again. Jim was freelance, so we had no Organization Behind him to come and take care of things, take charge. So we were frantic, really. Fbi eventually contacted us and told us that they would take the lead, because this is a kidnap of an american citizen outside of the country. We thought that was good, we needed help. That is how it started. Mr. Foley almost immediately the fbi convinced us to go into silence. The captors in hindsight that is one of my biggest regrets, media silence helped to entities, the fbi and the other is the captors. The fbi had no pressure to go forward with his situation and to the captors wanted silence for obvious reasons. So this went on and after about six weeks we were hearing nothing, absolutely nothing. We were frantic. We were able to secure services of a Security Team through the global post and we began our search but for one year we really didnt know where he was whether he was alive. Mrs. F foley what was most difficult, we really had it no person in the government to go to. We had no one who was accountable for jim, if you will, or any others who were kidnapped. I started a series of trips to washington, going to the state department and the fbi, just to remind them that jim was still missing. We didnt know if he was alive or not, and such. We were very disappointed. We had no access to anyone with any power or any information. And we were not allowed to be part of the effort to get our son out. I know that we can do better, as families. At many points, i was a policy at the way that we were treated in some incidences. Mr. Foley i think it is important, that for a year and a half, we were told that jims situation was the highest priority, that Everything Possible was being done, but they could tell is nothing because it was classified. Mort what did they tell you about thinking about ransom on it your own . Mr. Foley there was a person mrs. Foley from the security council. Mr. Foley we got the families together, he was very blunt. He said the same thing, we are not going after him, we are not going to negotiate and number three, we will not pay ransom, and number four, if you try to collect money you will be prosecuted or could there would be highly likely you would be prosecuted. At that point, we realized we were on our own. But that was two years later. We said, what the heck. I would rather be in jail here then jimmy over there. We began to raise money in terms of pledges, we do not want to handle the money. It is very difficult to collect money from somebody, or ask for donations, who might wind up in jail. We struggled with that, but we had some fine individuals who were going to go to battle with us. Mort as it turns out, there is a new Public Information person at the department of the state who is one of us. He was a tremendous investigator at the New York Times it in a los angeles, as it happens i worked with him just after 9 11 we were both in pakistan. We were trying to get across the border and doug is a really good reporter. Going over, he was working on committee and now he is at the state department, so my question is david, this came up the other day at the museum in washington and his answer was look, these are american citizens. We will do the best we can. This is being studied. Do something come from that, david . David first of all, i want to thank everyone who set this up this is an honor for me to be with these brave people. My connection to this topic came about because in 2008, 1 of our reporters was a kidnapped and i became the person who was designated to run the response to that and work with his family and the government. And a that was followed by another kidnapping and then the detention of four reporters and libya. As a result of all that, i was it was such an unpleasant experience, i committed a lot of time to how can we avoid avoid being in that position in the first place. I spent time with working with people on security. And the government question, it is clear from those expenses that the government should do better. Diane and john and i talked earlier, their experience as a family actually is not that different from what we experience, even though we had access. The New York Times, a powerful institution, we know people and we can get people to come to the phone, but still the feel the failure of the government was extraordinary. Many people work in government and are helpful, it and they have been extremely helpful and we appreciate that. But the fbi as lead agency makes no sense. The fbi does not have the capacit