host good morning, everyone on this thursday, september 14. Happening on capitol hill yesterday , elon musk, Mark Zuckerberg, ill gaetz and others gather behind closed doors only open to the press at the top of a meeting with senators to discuss Artificial Intelligence. Lawmakers are grappling with regulating the ever evolving technology as it threatens to upend the Global Economy. This morning, we want your take on Artificial Intelligence. Are you concerned or hopeful . If you live in the eastern or central part of the country, dial in at 202 7488000, mountain pacific, 202 7488001 , join us in a text with your first name, city and state at 202 7488003 or facebook. Com cspan and you can post on x cspanwj. The Washington Post this morning with a headline about yesterdays meeting. It reads ai risks and regulations at the center of the tech titans d. C. Forum. This one put together by the Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer of new york. [video clip] its been a very productive morning and afternoon. We talked about the morning where became clear that the panels with all different views believe government has to act and we need action on the transformative side to do great things with ai and do things also for the sustainability side so we can sustain ai without any great damage and there has to be some balance between the two. In the afternoon, we assumed we would get a little more details. We discussed a whole bunch of issues, some of which we only touched on in the mornings and some a little deeper in the things we discussed were open and the pros and cons of that. We talked about health care the amazing potential that ai could have with health care. Mike talked about his experience with his wife and many others and how it would be great if ai could prevent that happening with others. We talked about election laws and we need to do something immediate before the election we talked about the displacement of workers in the training of workers into the new ai jobs and what we do about displaced workers who might lose their jobs or have diminished jobs. We talked about who the regulators should be. A lot of different decisions and questions about that. We talked about the need for immigration. We talked about transparency. The afternoon meant just as well as the morning in the sense that we got to delve more specifically into some of the other issues once we set the table. One thing we know for sure, our work is just beginning. We need to have more of these forums and we need to get our committees working on different parts of legislation because again, to not act would be something that we want to avoid. We know will be hard. We know it will not be easy. We know it will take bipartisanship in coming together and we know we have to listen to diverse groups. It is such an amazing potential but also such an amazing challenge that is really our obligation to do everything we can to come up with legislation that will make the world with ai a better place than it is today. Host the Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer of new york yesterday. He was surrounded by some republican senators in a bipartisan meeting they held behind closed doors for hours with leaders of the Tech Industry like elon musk and bill gates, Mark Zuckerberg and there were civil rights advocates there and Consumer Rights advocates in the meeting as well. You heard the majority leader talk about trying to get ahead of this before there are jobs lost to Artificial Intelligence. Gallup did a poll asking people, americans if they Fear Technology taking over at work. This is the percentage of people worried that jobs will become obsolete because of technology and you can see the change from 2021 when it was 15 . Now, 2023, its 22 . Those college educated, the jump went from 8 to 20 . Are you concerned or hopeful about Artificial Intelligence . There are the lines on your screen and we want to hear from you this morning. Congress is moving fast it appears, working with tech leaders and others to possibly regulate this new technology. There is also this poll that was done by axios. It was broken down by those who voted for donald trump and 2020. And those who voted for President Biden in 2020. Others were 39 . Lets listen to a little bit from one of those tech leaders, elon musk who talk to reporters after he left the closed door meeting. He had a tesla waiting for him and this is what he had to say. [video clip] i think it was a very good discussion among some of the most important people in the world. Senator schumer i think did a good service to humanity here with the support of the rest of the senate and i think a lot will come of this. This meeting has been important for the future of civilization. Do you think legislation will come out of this . I think it will but i dont know what the timeframe will be. I think things will go on the right direction generally. Leader schumer, he has people to raise their hands in the room to ask of people wanted legislation and most of them did. I think regulation by the sec or the faa will happen. I think the consequences of ai going wrong are severe. We have to be proactive rather than reactive. Host elon musk outside the capitol yesterday after he and other tech ceos were behind closed doors with senators talking about Artificial Intelligence. Now we turn to you, are you concerned or hopeful about this technology . Ron is concerned, tell us why. Caller good morning, nice to see you again. This is when they talk about words like seachange and Cyber Intelligence revolutions and a variety of other words that are invented to describe whats happening with their World Economy, this is not just going to affect the United States or just one area, the industrial area. This is going to affect africa, affect europe, affect asia, everywhere. As a result of that, its a very serious thing to discuss. How do you control it . I think we have a few interesting thought lines that have come up to us. Weve lost control already. I would like to see someone, when we have these secret, behind the scenes meetings happening that comes out as a spokesperson and says what came out of it and what direction we are going. In my opinion and this is just my opinion, we are talking about 40 of the jobs in the Global Economy can go away because of Artificial Intelligence. Whats going to happen to those people . There is going to have to be an economic change. There will have to be a sociological change. Everything is going to go upside down. Its like the industrial revolution. I think senator blumenthal said it was another industrial revolution. No one gets that but we went away from horses and carts to the automobile. Host many of the senators came out and spoke for the cameras. You can find what they had to say on our website, cspan. Org. Senators were in and out throughout the day talking with these ceos and there were consumer advocates and other people in the room as well. Im curious where you got the 40 from. Caller its an extrapolation from a variety of looking at it objectively about the Service Community and how many jobs are service oriented. Service oriented will go away and we are already robotic and at risk. Restaurants are going robotic and Grocery Stores are going there everywhere. Its going to affect many, many people. Host here is what entrepreneur. Com website has to say. This meeting on capital hill yesterday, while it was close behind closed doors is where they spoke. Congress has held hearings on Artificial Intelligence and cspan has been in the room when they have held those hearings. Go to our website, cspan. Org, go to the Search Engine at the top and put in those words, Artificial Intelligence and you will see hearings from earlier this week and we covered one in may with the chatgpt ceo that talked about regulation and today, one p. M. Eastern time, federal agencies will be the topic before the House Oversight accountability subcommittee. You can watch that on cspan3, on cspan now for cspan. Org. Thats 1 p. M. Eastern time today. Anthony in detroit, you are concerned about ai . Caller yes, i am. As one component or major tool to be used for the government but also corporations that really deal with the data and i see this happening. I would call it predictive policing. Its part of a total information awareness is what i think they would call it in the governments fear. Lets say you have social media accounts and certain apps running on your phone and they can analyze all that, where you been and where you are going and you said something against the administration were what have you. They could say i think you will be a criminal tomorrow or lets say even this gentleman t, peter hiel who owns palantir and analyze data with ai and he also founded paypal. They could use this total information awareness to shut down your paypal account or access to your bank account. I think Something Like that is happening in canada anyway. Its a slippery slope especially with centralbank currencies. We dont want to go there. Host michael is also concerned in detroit. Caller hello, ai needs to be dissected from artificial. Artificial intelligence has been a part of corporations, its been an intelligence thats been separated for whats natural. When you look at our society, there is a lot of occurrences that have taken place and people know its not natural. They force it down our throat by these capitalists around the world because they can make money off of it. Theyve always look for it in corporations. They want to sell more products. Thats the only way youre going to make money. They are cutting cost to the point where its down to the bone. Artificial intelligence, from my perspective, is people there is people who have Artificial Intelligence. The way they evaluate things is not the Progressive Development of our society. Host here are some opinions on social media. More of your calls and texts and post on social media coming up. Joining us now this morning is julie grace, the congressional reporter with axios to give us an update on the looming government funding deadline. Where do things stand now . We are 10 days out from september 30 deadline to fund the government . Guest i talked to a lot of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle who are optimistic about averting a Government Shutdown. There is a lot of disagreements on a stopgap now with conservative pushing for border funding and spending cuts to be included which is likely going to be an uphill battle in the senate which is looking to jam the house. We will see how it pans out but right now, it sounds like they are heading toward a Government Shutdown. Host Kevin Mccarthy had a plan yesterday in the morning, what happened . Guest he is pushing for a continuing resolution now. We heard congressman mackey say that a clean cr at our current spending levels could be an automatic level to vacate. Host for those who dont know, what are you talking about . Guest that would be a mechanism to oust the current speaker. Mackey brought that up and other members floated spending cuts. The rsc conducted a poll were 88 of members of the caucus, the largest conservative caucus in congress would like to see acr passed quickly with almost 80 of that saying they would like to see a conservative priority tacked on there and they feel they have the leverage to do so in the senate. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. We saw one before recess yesterday so its been a struggle for them to get the process done in the odds of it happening before the deadline are slim to none. Host the speaker announced earlier this week and impeachment inquiry into President Biden. How is that related to this debate within the party . Guest i talked to some conservatives who said the impeachment inquiry is different from the spending that there were firms some frustrations prior to their announcement to that and we heard them say that came after and that Kevin Mccarthy had support for that. There is concern from the leadership side that they laid out there. They are not going to be able to continue this investigations if there is a Government Shutdown so they are hoping conservatives will get on board with the continuing resolution. Host what does a continuing resolution mean . Guest its a stopgap measure to have them finish the appropriations process. Host it means the government wouldnt shut down and they would have a limited amount of time to come up with an agreement. Remind our viewers what happens to the agreement made between the speaker and President Biden. Guest i had a hard time hearing you there. Host what happened to the agreement made by Speaker Mccarthy and President Biden . Guest there would be an automatic 1 spending cut next year that would go into effect in april. On the republican side, its an automatic 1 cut that would go into effect because they feel they could be more effective in getting deeper cuts in some of the areas that they see as a priority. The frustration is on that side there. Host explain why some conservatives are opposed to a continuing resolution, what do they want . Guest there are many conservatives that have always pushed back on continuing resolutions. Part of the speakers deal and part of their agreement on the debt ceiling, the big push was to go through regular order and passed all 12 appropriations bill without an omnibus. Thats kind of the mentality on their end. Host to follow more of whats happening on this possible Government Shutdown, you can follow julie grace reporting at axios. Com. They give you for your time this morning. Guest thank you for having me . Host back to the discussion with you about Artificial Intelligence. Are you concerned or hopeful about this technology . Paul is concerned . Caller yes, hello and hello america. You can put me down as very concerned. When i pulled up ai on a cell phone search, maybe one of those bots will come after me because i slandered ai. I pulled up deep privacy issues and autumn is asian. Andautomazation, stolen identities and privacy in the weapons thing is a big thing because that reaches a real high moral level. We already have the justification of control room assassinations by error military agencies and departments. Young people forced to sit in a control room or concrete bunker and push the button and destroy sometimes whole families, wedding parties and funerals all the way across the world. Would you call that ai . Host that discussion is happening on capitol hill and they had hearings and weve covered them. If youre interested, go to her website, cspan. Org, you can listen to the discussion. Sean in new york, good, what do you say about Artificial Intelligence . Caller i talked to the switchboard operator and usually it says stick to the subject but you had a woman from axios on talking about the budget resolution. It was taking place in the senate. The woman you had on their, i guess access is a leftleaning media. The only thing she talked about was the republicans. She never mentioned the democrats and whats going on in the Democratic Party, whats going on in the senate with the democrats. Everything that comes up is that the republicans, they dont want to be bipartisan and they dont want to talk much. Host i will jump in because we want to stick to the topic. Republicans are in control of the house and the issue of getting these bill to the floor seems to be on the republican side. There is more bipartisan agreement on the senate side. Adam in phoenix, what do you say about ai . Caller good morning. I work as a computer programmer, im 30 years old and ive been working in i. T. For about a decade. I think its pretty good in the main reason why is because it helps us with ai and resolution to reduce the amount of time it takes to do simple tasks, triggers for emails and you can automate a majority of office tasks. The reason why i am concerned is because i am concerned the simplification and the quickness of these test leads to capitalists shutting down jobs and turning people away. And thats my main worry. Host what you think about the impact of this on education . Two people need to learn how to write or will a machine do it for them . Caller i think they need to learn how to write, of course. I dont think there are issues about writing or reading. Its more about the day to day office tasks and thats the main focus for me. Host got it, he says hes concerned. Missoula, montana is hopeful. Good morning. Caller hello there. Im more hopeful. Im hopeful ai comes to an end because it will hurt jobs. The only thing it will do is probably still work for writers but given that is really bad now. Im hopeful ai does not get any further than it already is there was a row that name hal in 2001 a space opera seat and he went people. I hope its a mini craze we get our focus and are hopeful that it makes workers start unionizing so they dont get the jobs replaced. Host william and middleton command connecticut here is the daily beast headline. This is an x post yesterday. In this article, they say from the Washington Post reporting republican senator todd young was in the room and came out of the room after one of the sessions with senator Chuck Schumer. Heres w