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We will use super bowl sunday to talk about government regulations when it comes to the issue of steroids or head injuries. The phone lines are open. Lets begin with a look at some of the headlines courtesy of the museum. From the San Francisco chronicle from the Baltimore Sun lets turn to the politics and policy behind the nfl. This is a story a few days ago from the Washington Post. Outlining a plan and a letter to the executive director of the Players Union. They agreed as part of a 2011 collective Bargaining Agreement that the players should be tested for hgh, but the two sides of that agreed. Two seasons have been played without it. Last weekend in new orleans, Roger Goodell was asked a number of questions including one on the issue of head injuries. Here is more from last week. [video clip] i welcome the president s comments. We want to make sure people understand what we are doing to make our game safer, not just in the nfl but throughout sports. The changes we are making a in the nfl are changing all of sports. It is a better recognition of head injuries. Of treating them conservatively. That affects every sport beyond sports. For the troops overseas. What we are doing is leading the way to make sure people understand that you need to treat these injuries seriously. Host the head of the nfl responded to a statement made by the president in an interview with the republic. We are talking about the issue of the nfl and the federal government, whether there needs to be more regulations. Caller good morning. I just want to comment that with injuries and any sport and any injury, i think i was a medic in the coast guard. The cold constricts the blood flow. It helps control the blood flow. Ice cold and pressure. I think ice needs to be there with the trainers and immediately when somebody is down. If ice is applied with nominal pressure to an injury, i think it would really help. I would like to make a comment about drug use. A and 67 years old, i do nordic ski racing in the winter and bicycle racing in the Summer Mountain and road banks bikes. I and disappointed and lance armstrong. Unfortunately, drugs are really prevalent a in all sports. I suspect some of my colorado competitors close to the south host on that issue when it comes to human growth hormone, should there be more government regulation . Is there caller the u. S. Antidumping agency is working the best that they can. There just needs to be more drug testing. Host thank you for the call. Steve is joining us from minnesota. Caller good morning. You know am i on . Host you sure are. Caller the building behind you. When these people get into it, they really screwed up. I do not know. Host ok. We will leave it there. Our question, should there be more regulations on this super bowl sunday . A story from politico. If you are watching the game tonight, you will see a 32nd spot. The headline super 2013 bloombergfounded mayors Group Sponsors gun control ad. The ad calls for lawmakers to pass rules requiring background checks. It is narrated by children with america, the beautifulplaying in the background. Where are you calling from . You are on the air. Caller i would like to comment that if the president and government is so worried about injuries a dental health, maybe they should consider the abortion issue and the disproportionate killing of African American babies. Host ok. From the new republic. He was asked about football injuries at the High School Level and the nfl and he said i am a big football fan, but if i had a son, i would have a eddy is joining us from greenville, south carolina. Caller good morning. It bought these brain injuries, as far as i can see, i do not care what kind of helmet they design, the brain has a membrane in there. The brain is traveling back and forth against the skull, that is what is causing the problem. Ok . For them to do that, they have to play football. Host why should the government step in if they are stupid enough to take hgh . Lets go to the News Conference when the nfl was asked about head injuries but also the use of steroids by players. [video clip] you are correct. In the collective Bargaining Agreement we did agree tho hgh testing. We agree to neutral arbitration. We will do that as soon as we reach an agreement on the hgh which i expect and hope will be very soon. We have moved down that path and any effective way. Host from last thursday, the head of the nfl to questions on a wide range of topics including head injuries and the use of steroids. The question we are asking, should there be more oversight, more regulations. Caller you have a collective Bargaining Agreement that would typically control the field on this. Absent some type of controlled substance issue whether they will agree to testing, the h g h issue is likely regulated as a controlled substance. Under those issues, it is whether you will test for it. Specifically with regard to concussions. Then you have whether congress should step and, regulate, running on a separate track. I think the pochette issue is probably the clearest path. Osha issue is the safest path. Have a regulatory scheme in place to deal with it. I think this is something osha could at least inquire about. There is a clear path. If Congress Wants to look back, there is a clear path to do that and start that kind of an inquiry under existing regulations. Thank you for the call. From the twitter from you can join us online on twitter. Com. Many already weighing in on the Facebook Page. Caller good morning. I would just like to say that as a player in the nfl, i do not see it any different as a person who joins the military. Maybe one day you might be sent off to fight in a war. You could be shot and killed. Playing in the nfl, you could possibly be injured gravely. I do not see any difference in either one of them. Host let me go back to the Washington Post story . They have been unable to launch a population study that the union says is necessary to determine what constitutes a positive test for athletes. They have been unsuccessful in their previous attempts to push negotiations forward. Congress increasing the pressure on the issue of human growth hormones and their use in the nfl. Our question this morning, what should the role of the federal government be. Frank is joining us. Caller i wanted to call and answer your question with a simple no. There should be no government intervention. I do believe the government should perhaps enter into concerns over the ncaa rules and Regulations Committee in north america because i think the author and patriarch of many of the problems that we have as it is related to reference identification and location, the reality of problems as they are with the team owners, to managers, a team investors. I have been concerned over reports there is a complete non bias in the ncaa as it relates to our national athlete, whether a high school player, a college player, are a professional player. I think we investigate the circumstances we will see the elements of investment, portions of what are simply unattainable of maturity to the ncaa, but all for a reference of a great liability to our players and surrounding personnel. Host thank you for the call from alabama. Here is the twiter page. Some other news on this sunday morning. The republican guillemot to filibuster or not to filibuster over chuck hagel. One senator announcing he will support chuck hagel, is a fellow senator from nebraska. Caller good morning. I just wanted to say, it is an undue burden on of minorities that cannot get i. T. To vote to have to get a background check for a gun. The government just misses up everything they do. How can they get a gun if they are going to do a background check if they do not have an id . Host thank you. Another story from the Washington Post. The reporting of greg miller and joby warrick. Jason is joining us from waterville, maine. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I think people understand professional sports it is the governments role to help assist and a grow the culture and help our culture transformed as time goes on and as people transform. I think there is some things we provide professional sports benefits with. Fundamentally, over all, i think as a government, we are wasting our time creating councils and creating panels where politicians sit on them and make decisions about athletics when in actuality they need to be making decisions about Foreign Policy and how we get people back to work in this country. I think we need to focus on that instead of trying to prosecute barry bonds for lying about taking steroids. That is not the Biggest Issue in the world. The Biggest Issue is starving kids on the street. Thank you for your time. I would like to give a shout out to bobba bouy. Host on the trail of a senatorial scandal. Two stores related to senator menendez. Prostitutes fill its streets. Next to that with a picture who denies any wrongdoing, women named by the tipsters exist, but not anymore. It points out the shadowy tipster that made the allegation involving bob menendez and underage prostitutes and the dominican republican gave names. Despite the details, the women are nowhere to be found. Inside the Washington Post, giving him the worst week in washington. From oklahoma, good morning. Caller i do not mean to be rude about this. But with all of the regulations going on, it is kind of silly. How far do you go with it. It is getting silly. How far do you go with this stuff . Host thank you for the call. It relates to comment on all of this. Jim is from rhode island. Good morning. Caller i do think we need some regulation. But to our own devices, they could put the lions out there in the coliseum and it would be a good payperview audience for that. Another is a little extreme, but i think you need some regulations so when the kids are playing football and so forth. Host where do you draw the line . Do you start at the High School Level . Is that the responsibility of local School Districts or county or the state . Caller well, i just think they have to start somewhere. There are way too many head injuries. I think it is worth looking into. Host to try for the call. Rick is joining us from pennsylvania. Thank you for the call. Caller hockey has not done this study. Soccer has not done it or you are hit constantly with a ball going 80 miles per hour. I have been around athletics for most of my adult life. I have seen young men play high school, College Football bowl onto live productive healthy lives. I think of anyone took a percentage of people playing football, the percentage of injuries would be one is too many. It would be a very small percentage. The nfl is different. Airplane 20 games a year, really playing two seasons where most colleges play 10 or 11 games. I have read an article, perdue has developed a helmet that will be twice as safe as the one being used now. I think the game at the high school and College Level is safer than it has ever been. Host 21 for the call. Next is steve from kansas on the line for republicans. The nfl and the federal government, should there be more regulations . Caller i am not sure there should be more regulations. The game itself is a violent sport. I played it. The companies that manufacture helmets, pads, and this and that to make the game a safer sport, you know, they are making their money. What the point is, all of the companies that are making the bunny i played at colorado state. I knew all of the money was coming in every time we went to a ballgame and all of the tv companies are coming and the. They did not give a shit host i will stop you there. Thank you for sharing the experience up until these swearword. We apologize for that. Is your saying it is not the governments role. We normally do not talk about sports on this program, but we are asking about the Public Policy side of all of this. The president weighing in on an interview with the new republicansaying he would have to give serious thought if he had a son whether or not he would want his son to play football. The role hgh is playing with players, should there be more government regulations . Next is a mark from long beach, california. Caller good morning. I was thinking the problem football is having as they are not politically correct. The politically correct crowd is after them. They should get some women playing football. Obama thinks because his son should not play football because it is dangerous. Sending females into frontline combat units that is not too dangerous. In the twisted liberal mind, we have to get women we have to get a couple of players to admit they are homosexuals. Then it will become a cause host thank you for the call. A front page under the fold, a picture getting a lot of attention. This photograph, an executive order pulled to document the president s skeet shooting. We will talk more about this and a couple of minutes. Naperville, ill. , good morning on the republican line. Caller yes. I think the officials should take some responsibility as far as blowing the whistle sooner. Umpires should take more responsibility. Host to life for the call. From the new york daily news, bam. A picture snapped last august, it shows his mastery of shotgun while skeet shooting. The white house released the photograph saturday, possibly to muzzle critics suggested obama was posturing when he talked about shooting in an interview with the new republic magazine. This is how the story plays out inside the New York Times. He claims shooting is a hobby and the white house offers evidence. Back to your calls on the issue of the nfl. Should there be regulations when it comes to the players and the Players Union . Claudia is on the independent line. Caller i was wondering what the rate of injury is in rugby. I used to be a real football fan. I watch rugby when i get a chance. It is a really rough game, but they do not wear helmets or too much padding. Host to live for the call. Brian is next. Thank you for the call. Caller hey, man, what are you into . Host we will go next to mississippi. Caller i think the government has its head into many things right now. The tax dollars are going to go up more. We need less programs, and more states rights. Host thank you for the call. Susan brooks, a republican of indiana, giving the gop response as Congress Comes back to work this week. The ongoing debate over the rising debt and deficit and how to rein in government spending. Here is a portion of the address. [video clip] i recently voted to present the democratic majority in the u. S. Senate with a simple but powerful challenge. Pass a budget, or you do not get paid. By forcing Senate Democrats to finally live up to one of the most basic responsibilities of governing, we are presenting them with a golden opportunity to confront and fall solve our spending program. We are Holding President obama accountable for the sequestered cuts he first proposed in 2011. Republicans want to replace the sequester, which is a series of harmful across the board cuts with better, commonsense cuts and reforms. All of this will require democrats to finally get serious about the spending problem. Each of the last two years, the republicanled house has passed a responsible budget that addresses what is driving the debt to put our country on a path to prosperity. Unfortunately, it has been for years some Senate Democrats last pass the budget. 1000, 375 days to be exact. 1600 1 does a 300 of the five days to be exact. 1,375. I am worried that our nation posted children will pay in dollars and opportunities for our failure to lead. Remarkably, there are leaders who do understand why it is so important for us to have a budget. One Senate Democrat said a budget was not all that meaningful. Another said it would be foolish. I respectfully disagree. I am sure many hardworking parents do as well. Solving these questions is why i ran for congress and the first place. A budget matters to americans who cannot afford to see their taxes go up or lose the jobs that would be destroyed in the process. A budget matters to people who worry about protecting and saving critical programs like medicare and Social Security. A budget matters to younger workers who fear more and more money will be taken from their paychecks to find another generation spending spree. Host susan brooks of illinois. Back to your calls and questions and comments from the nfl. The super bowl gets under way tonight in new orleans. Alex is joining us next from new york city. Caller my comment is i am not particularly a sports fan. It seems very repetitive back and forth. As far as the regulation my observation, not just about football but hockey and also even baseball people seem to like people getting hit and getting beat up. They even like people looking kind of distorted like when they take drugs. I would be in favor if there could be a lot to prevent head injuries or young people being persuaded to do drugs to get onto teams or whatever. It is my commentary to my fellow americans the sunday morning that, it is like gladiatorial combat. The hunter games. It is almost like a freak show you enjoy watching human suffering. That is my cheery comment. Host thank you for the call. On the twitter page, there is this. Back in 2009, tiki barber testified on the issue of head injuries at the high school and professional lover level. [video clip] you hear the file but comes from people who think the nfl is not addressing this issue. At the end of the day, it is a player pose a choice. When we get injured, we break our arm, our figures, pull our handsprings, ultimately the doctor gives us advice. It is our choice to go back into the football game. At a High School Level, it is not so much so. My ask of you is that you find a way to mandate that every San Francisco<\/a> chronicle from the Baltimore Sun<\/a> lets turn to the politics and policy behind the nfl. This is a story a few days ago from the Washington Post<\/a>. Outlining a plan and a letter to the executive director of the Players Union<\/a>. They agreed as part of a 2011 collective Bargaining Agreement<\/a> that the players should be tested for hgh, but the two sides of that agreed. Two seasons have been played without it. Last weekend in new orleans, Roger Goodell<\/a> was asked a number of questions including one on the issue of head injuries. Here is more from last week. [video clip] i welcome the president s comments. We want to make sure people understand what we are doing to make our game safer, not just in the nfl but throughout sports. The changes we are making a in the nfl are changing all of sports. It is a better recognition of head injuries. Of treating them conservatively. That affects every sport beyond sports. For the troops overseas. What we are doing is leading the way to make sure people understand that you need to treat these injuries seriously. Host the head of the nfl responded to a statement made by the president in an interview with the republic. We are talking about the issue of the nfl and the federal government, whether there needs to be more regulations. Caller good morning. I just want to comment that with injuries and any sport and any injury, i think i was a medic in the coast guard. The cold constricts the blood flow. It helps control the blood flow. Ice cold and pressure. I think ice needs to be there with the trainers and immediately when somebody is down. If ice is applied with nominal pressure to an injury, i think it would really help. I would like to make a comment about drug use. A and 67 years old, i do nordic ski racing in the winter and bicycle racing in the Summer Mountain<\/a> and road banks bikes. I and disappointed and lance armstrong. Unfortunately, drugs are really prevalent a in all sports. I suspect some of my colorado competitors close to the south host on that issue when it comes to human growth hormone, should there be more government regulation . Is there caller the u. S. Antidumping agency is working the best that they can. There just needs to be more drug testing. Host thank you for the call. Steve is joining us from minnesota. Caller good morning. You know am i on . Host you sure are. Caller the building behind you. When these people get into it, they really screwed up. I do not know. Host ok. We will leave it there. Our question, should there be more regulations on this super bowl sunday . A story from politico. If you are watching the game tonight, you will see a 32nd spot. The headline super 2013 bloombergfounded mayors Group Sponsors<\/a> gun control ad. The ad calls for lawmakers to pass rules requiring background checks. It is narrated by children with america, the beautifulplaying in the background. Where are you calling from . You are on the air. Caller i would like to comment that if the president and government is so worried about injuries a dental health, maybe they should consider the abortion issue and the disproportionate killing of African American<\/a> babies. Host ok. From the new republic. He was asked about football injuries at the High School Level<\/a> and the nfl and he said i am a big football fan, but if i had a son, i would have a eddy is joining us from greenville, south carolina. Caller good morning. It bought these brain injuries, as far as i can see, i do not care what kind of helmet they design, the brain has a membrane in there. The brain is traveling back and forth against the skull, that is what is causing the problem. Ok . For them to do that, they have to play football. Host why should the government step in if they are stupid enough to take hgh . Lets go to the News Conference<\/a> when the nfl was asked about head injuries but also the use of steroids by players. [video clip] you are correct. In the collective Bargaining Agreement<\/a> we did agree tho hgh testing. We agree to neutral arbitration. We will do that as soon as we reach an agreement on the hgh which i expect and hope will be very soon. We have moved down that path and any effective way. Host from last thursday, the head of the nfl to questions on a wide range of topics including head injuries and the use of steroids. The question we are asking, should there be more oversight, more regulations. Caller you have a collective Bargaining Agreement<\/a> that would typically control the field on this. Absent some type of controlled substance issue whether they will agree to testing, the h g h issue is likely regulated as a controlled substance. Under those issues, it is whether you will test for it. Specifically with regard to concussions. Then you have whether congress should step and, regulate, running on a separate track. I think the pochette issue is probably the clearest path. Osha issue is the safest path. Have a regulatory scheme in place to deal with it. I think this is something osha could at least inquire about. There is a clear path. If Congress Wants<\/a> to look back, there is a clear path to do that and start that kind of an inquiry under existing regulations. Thank you for the call. From the twitter from you can join us online on twitter. Com. Many already weighing in on the Facebook Page<\/a>. Caller good morning. I would just like to say that as a player in the nfl, i do not see it any different as a person who joins the military. Maybe one day you might be sent off to fight in a war. You could be shot and killed. Playing in the nfl, you could possibly be injured gravely. I do not see any difference in either one of them. Host let me go back to the Washington Post<\/a> story . They have been unable to launch a population study that the union says is necessary to determine what constitutes a positive test for athletes. They have been unsuccessful in their previous attempts to push negotiations forward. Congress increasing the pressure on the issue of human growth hormones and their use in the nfl. Our question this morning, what should the role of the federal government be. Frank is joining us. Caller i wanted to call and answer your question with a simple no. There should be no government intervention. I do believe the government should perhaps enter into concerns over the ncaa rules and Regulations Committee<\/a> in north america because i think the author and patriarch of many of the problems that we have as it is related to reference identification and location, the reality of problems as they are with the team owners, to managers, a team investors. I have been concerned over reports there is a complete non bias in the ncaa as it relates to our national athlete, whether a high school player, a college player, are a professional player. I think we investigate the circumstances we will see the elements of investment, portions of what are simply unattainable of maturity to the ncaa, but all for a reference of a great liability to our players and surrounding personnel. Host thank you for the call from alabama. Here is the twiter page. Some other news on this sunday morning. The republican guillemot to filibuster or not to filibuster over chuck hagel. One senator announcing he will support chuck hagel, is a fellow senator from nebraska. Caller good morning. I just wanted to say, it is an undue burden on of minorities that cannot get i. T. To vote to have to get a background check for a gun. The government just misses up everything they do. How can they get a gun if they are going to do a background check if they do not have an id . Host thank you. Another story from the Washington Post<\/a>. The reporting of greg miller and joby warrick. Jason is joining us from waterville, maine. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I think people understand professional sports it is the governments role to help assist and a grow the culture and help our culture transformed as time goes on and as people transform. I think there is some things we provide professional sports benefits with. Fundamentally, over all, i think as a government, we are wasting our time creating councils and creating panels where politicians sit on them and make decisions about athletics when in actuality they need to be making decisions about Foreign Policy<\/a> and how we get people back to work in this country. I think we need to focus on that instead of trying to prosecute barry bonds for lying about taking steroids. That is not the Biggest Issue<\/a> in the world. The Biggest Issue<\/a> is starving kids on the street. Thank you for your time. I would like to give a shout out to bobba bouy. Host on the trail of a senatorial scandal. Two stores related to senator menendez. Prostitutes fill its streets. Next to that with a picture who denies any wrongdoing, women named by the tipsters exist, but not anymore. It points out the shadowy tipster that made the allegation involving bob menendez and underage prostitutes and the dominican republican gave names. Despite the details, the women are nowhere to be found. Inside the Washington Post<\/a>, giving him the worst week in washington. From oklahoma, good morning. Caller i do not mean to be rude about this. But with all of the regulations going on, it is kind of silly. How far do you go with it. It is getting silly. How far do you go with this stuff . Host thank you for the call. It relates to comment on all of this. Jim is from rhode island. Good morning. Caller i do think we need some regulation. But to our own devices, they could put the lions out there in the coliseum and it would be a good payperview audience for that. Another is a little extreme, but i think you need some regulations so when the kids are playing football and so forth. Host where do you draw the line . Do you start at the High School Level<\/a> . Is that the responsibility of local School Districts<\/a> or county or the state . Caller well, i just think they have to start somewhere. There are way too many head injuries. I think it is worth looking into. Host to try for the call. Rick is joining us from pennsylvania. Thank you for the call. Caller hockey has not done this study. Soccer has not done it or you are hit constantly with a ball going 80 miles per hour. I have been around athletics for most of my adult life. I have seen young men play high school, College Football<\/a> bowl onto live productive healthy lives. I think of anyone took a percentage of people playing football, the percentage of injuries would be one is too many. It would be a very small percentage. The nfl is different. Airplane 20 games a year, really playing two seasons where most colleges play 10 or 11 games. I have read an article, perdue has developed a helmet that will be twice as safe as the one being used now. I think the game at the high school and College Level<\/a> is safer than it has ever been. Host 21 for the call. Next is steve from kansas on the line for republicans. The nfl and the federal government, should there be more regulations . Caller i am not sure there should be more regulations. The game itself is a violent sport. I played it. The companies that manufacture helmets, pads, and this and that to make the game a safer sport, you know, they are making their money. What the point is, all of the companies that are making the bunny i played at colorado state. I knew all of the money was coming in every time we went to a ballgame and all of the tv companies are coming and the. They did not give a shit host i will stop you there. Thank you for sharing the experience up until these swearword. We apologize for that. Is your saying it is not the governments role. We normally do not talk about sports on this program, but we are asking about the Public Policy<\/a> side of all of this. The president weighing in on an interview with the new republicansaying he would have to give serious thought if he had a son whether or not he would want his son to play football. The role hgh is playing with players, should there be more government regulations . Next is a mark from long beach, california. Caller good morning. I was thinking the problem football is having as they are not politically correct. The politically correct crowd is after them. They should get some women playing football. Obama thinks because his son should not play football because it is dangerous. Sending females into frontline combat units that is not too dangerous. In the twisted liberal mind, we have to get women we have to get a couple of players to admit they are homosexuals. Then it will become a cause host thank you for the call. A front page under the fold, a picture getting a lot of attention. This photograph, an executive order pulled to document the president s skeet shooting. We will talk more about this and a couple of minutes. Naperville, ill. , good morning on the republican line. Caller yes. I think the officials should take some responsibility as far as blowing the whistle sooner. Umpires should take more responsibility. Host to life for the call. From the new york daily news, bam. A picture snapped last august, it shows his mastery of shotgun while skeet shooting. The white house released the photograph saturday, possibly to muzzle critics suggested obama was posturing when he talked about shooting in an interview with the new republic magazine. This is how the story plays out inside the New York Times<\/a>. He claims shooting is a hobby and the white house offers evidence. Back to your calls on the issue of the nfl. Should there be regulations when it comes to the players and the Players Union<\/a> . Claudia is on the independent line. Caller i was wondering what the rate of injury is in rugby. I used to be a real football fan. I watch rugby when i get a chance. It is a really rough game, but they do not wear helmets or too much padding. Host to live for the call. Brian is next. Thank you for the call. Caller hey, man, what are you into . Host we will go next to mississippi. Caller i think the government has its head into many things right now. The tax dollars are going to go up more. We need less programs, and more states rights. Host thank you for the call. Susan brooks, a republican of indiana, giving the gop response as Congress Comes<\/a> back to work this week. The ongoing debate over the rising debt and deficit and how to rein in government spending. Here is a portion of the address. [video clip] i recently voted to present the democratic majority in the u. S. Senate with a simple but powerful challenge. Pass a budget, or you do not get paid. By forcing Senate Democrats<\/a> to finally live up to one of the most basic responsibilities of governing, we are presenting them with a golden opportunity to confront and fall solve our spending program. We are Holding President<\/a> obama accountable for the sequestered cuts he first proposed in 2011. Republicans want to replace the sequester, which is a series of harmful across the board cuts with better, commonsense cuts and reforms. All of this will require democrats to finally get serious about the spending problem. Each of the last two years, the republicanled house has passed a responsible budget that addresses what is driving the debt to put our country on a path to prosperity. Unfortunately, it has been for years some Senate Democrats<\/a> last pass the budget. 1000, 375 days to be exact. 1600 1 does a 300 of the five days to be exact. 1,375. I am worried that our nation posted children will pay in dollars and opportunities for our failure to lead. Remarkably, there are leaders who do understand why it is so important for us to have a budget. One Senate Democrat<\/a> said a budget was not all that meaningful. Another said it would be foolish. I respectfully disagree. I am sure many hardworking parents do as well. Solving these questions is why i ran for congress and the first place. A budget matters to americans who cannot afford to see their taxes go up or lose the jobs that would be destroyed in the process. A budget matters to people who worry about protecting and saving critical programs like medicare and Social Security<\/a>. A budget matters to younger workers who fear more and more money will be taken from their paychecks to find another generation spending spree. Host susan brooks of illinois. Back to your calls and questions and comments from the nfl. The super bowl gets under way tonight in new orleans. Alex is joining us next from new york city. Caller my comment is i am not particularly a sports fan. It seems very repetitive back and forth. As far as the regulation my observation, not just about football but hockey and also even baseball people seem to like people getting hit and getting beat up. They even like people looking kind of distorted like when they take drugs. I would be in favor if there could be a lot to prevent head injuries or young people being persuaded to do drugs to get onto teams or whatever. It is my commentary to my fellow americans the sunday morning that, it is like gladiatorial combat. The hunter games. It is almost like a freak show you enjoy watching human suffering. That is my cheery comment. Host thank you for the call. On the twitter page, there is this. Back in 2009, tiki barber testified on the issue of head injuries at the high school and professional lover level. [video clip] you hear the file but comes from people who think the nfl is not addressing this issue. At the end of the day, it is a player pose a choice. When we get injured, we break our arm, our figures, pull our handsprings, ultimately the doctor gives us advice. It is our choice to go back into the football game. At a High School Level<\/a>, it is not so much so. My ask of you is that you find a way to mandate that every High School Athletic<\/a> program has access to medical doctors who can diagnose, understand, and treat concussions so it seems to try to emulate and be like me in the current players and the National Football<\/a> league know the dangers of playing the sport that we all love it. Host four years ago, tiki barber testifying on head injuries. One of the number of hearings congress has taken in recent years. The question more broadly we are asking is, should there be more regulation and oversight by congress and the federal government when it comes to the nfl. We are asking this question because it is super bowl sunday. Virginia is on the phone from tennessee. Good morning. Caller good morning. Yes, i would like to ask the nfl to please pay for their own problems instead of going through the government to get money from the tax payer. The nfl has more money than the government does. I thank you for considering the thought. Host thank you for the call. From up a the Washington Post<\/a>. This is a photograph as he was cheered on by members of the senate colleagues, democrats and republicans as he returned to washington one year after suffering a stroke and going through extensive rehabilitation. Kenneth is joining us from north carolina. Good morning. Caller yes. I had a comment about the nfl thing. There is not a whole lot of difference as far as i am concerned. The government almost things as both of them. There are certain things about the criminals and the street that the government will go out and try to protect the criminals before they do the citizens. In the nfl they do the same thing. The protect the guys that make the most money before they leave. That is the way they operate. I do not see why it is such a strange argument. Host to buy for the call. From the twitter page, there is this. Front page of the New York Times<\/a>. That story this morning from the New York Times<\/a>. Mike is joining us from iowa. On the democrats line. Good morning. Caller yes, with the nfl regulations, i think it is in the different like the last caller said. If they had those guys out directing them to hit certain people, i think that is wrong. I had another comment on the government regulations. While obama is in this miss, his first four years or from the miss from 10 years of republicans from 10 years of wars. It will take obama a long time and even the next president to get this next this message fixed. Host thank you for the call. From cq weekly from New York Times<\/a> magazine the impact of the shale boom in north dakota. The Weekly Standard<\/a> focusing on the debt, the deficit, and its impact on the children. The president speaking about these issues in his weekly address. Here is more. [video clip] we all agree it is critical to cut unnecessary spending. We cannot cut our way to prosperity. It has not worked in the past, and it will not work today. It should it could slow down the recovery. It could cost us jobs. Much as number in the future. Lets make the investments we cannot afford to live without. Embarrassments and education and infrastructure. Research and Development Investments<\/a> and education and infrastructure. Already republicans and democrats of Work Together<\/a> to reduce deficits by 2. 50 trillion. That is a good start. To get the rest of the way, we need a balanced set of reforms. For example, we need to lower the cost of health care and programs like medicare that are the biggest drivers of the deficit. These reforms must go hand in hand with eliminating excess spending in the tax code so the wealthiest individuals can ticket veg of loopholes and deductions the kind of bailable to most americans. It can be a year solid growth, more jobs, and higher wages. That will only happen of reporters up to selfinflicted wounds. Host the president in his weekly address. The earlier debt limit with 16. 40 trillion. We have surpassed that. You can keep track of it at usdebtclock. Org. It is now 60. 50 trillion. The next debate over the debt limit is likely to come up mid may. A story from the Weekly Standard<\/a>. We need a better argument against the debt. She writes back to your calls on the issue of the nfl and the federal government. Should there be more regulations on this super bowl sunday . Terry is joining us from carolina on the independent line. Caller you have made mention of the state regulating. I think all sports should be clean. In regards to issues of the government, i am a victim of natural disaster. There are so many more serious issues to just bypass those and focus on sports. I find that to be silly. I do believe they should be clean. States should regulate it. Host thank you for sharing your thoughts and comments. A lot of attention on no. 52. Tonight. S final game the next call is from been sent on the democrats line. Caller good morning. I wanted to make a comment. The sixth of february is National Signing<\/a> day for High School Football<\/a> players and athletes. I just wanted to mention the fact that here in florida, football is so big. It is so important because of the fact it gives young men and opportunity to go to college. They have a hard time realizing that the risk of injury is there. They cannot make it a priority brimstones we need to understand what is happening as a lot of spots in this country, they have to play this game the right way and learn how to tackle the right way. Learn how to not use their home that when they are playing the tackle first. When i was a kid i was taught to drive my shoulders instead of my head. I believe that is one of the problems going on in sports today. Host is that the role of the coaches and players . Is it the role of the federal government, especially when it comes to the nfl . Caller absolutely not. I was about to say, you will get as much feedback from the government or you will get as much cooperation from areas about regulation in sports in this area as you well with gun control. Host 21 for the call. Some other headlines. Rosa parks is commemorated on what would have been her 100th birthday. From the miami herald. A journey from a quiet for the kid to a ferocious football icon. We are talking football and the role of the federal government. One of our viewers saying, only the republicans could make a ball regulations a federal issue. Thomas is joining us from illinois. Good morning. Caller i have had a really deep concern about the far left and the far right. Actually, the far left is as dangerous as the far right. Ultimately, the two are in collusion, one and the other. I have been concerned with the far left and the far right and the corporations doing the best they can to dismantle the effectiveness of the federal government by eliminating regulations and the fda, the epa, the nfl, and everything else. They want to develop and anarchy regarding regulation. This business about the states and the local governments should have the exclusive power. They are trying to divide and conquer the people of the United States<\/a> of america. For instance, a homosexual marriage. Theyre saying it should be a state issue. There are going to take away the effectiveness of the federal government. They know if they get a few states to allow an anarchy, it is going to spill over into other states. There is nothing the federal government can do about it. I am against them and setting up a corporate dictatorship. Areas that. Host we are going to go back to the president was a comment. It spurred a lot of discussion about football and football injuries. He told the new republic as the president looks at this board as a fan of this board but also somebody who understands the risk of injury. Coming up, we will turn our attention to Marc Ginsberg<\/a> who has served as the ambassador to morocco as we look at the new Foreign Policy<\/a> team in place by obama. Later, the 1986 Immigration Reform<\/a> law. What was in it and what to learn from it . First, it looked as some of the other shows, including the super bowl that will face a nation. The super bowl will be the topic of some discussion, a lot with president obamas second term agenda, gun violence, and immigration. We read air the show starting at noon atmeet the press. Today, leon panetta and martin dempsey. At 1 00 here this week. The former d. C. Public schools chancellor makes an appearance and lou barletta. Fox news sunday with wayne la pierre and mark kelly, husband of gabby giffords. State of the union at 3 00 with leon panetta and martin dempsey. Fouroclock, face the nation Roger Goodell<\/a>. The sunday talk shows rearing but he by a Public Service<\/a> by the networks. It begins at noon with meet the press. Listen to them all on cspan radio, 90. 1 fm in the washington area. 119 on xm satellite radio. You can go online to cspanradio. Org. [captions Copyright National<\/a> cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] i think my experience led me to realize that, yes, i did have a voice. In using it, i could accomplish things. Having been crazy having been busy raising the children, i do not think up to my mind to anything like that. When i left the white house, there were so many sign people up there who are willing to help you win your cause. I had a big following. First lady, influence and image. Their public and private life and their influence on the president. Produced with the White House Historical<\/a> association. Season one begins president s day, february 18 at 9 00 eastern and pacific. Host we want to welcome Marc Ginsberg<\/a> from new marc who served as a middle east adviser to president carter and ambassador to morocco. Thank you for being with us. But the began with some of the news of the weekend and comments made by the vicepresident who continues his travels through europe including a conference taking place in munich, germany. He says the u. S. Is ready for direct talks directiran if they are ready for negotiations. Direct talks with iran. Guest this is then try to open a back door and front door negotiations. Part of the challenges, we have made these and treaties. The question is whether the i italia is going to avail himself of them. I am in favor of doing Everything Possible<\/a> to see what is necessary and to explore the feasibility of avoiding a conflict with iran if iran is ready to reach an accommodation that stops its Nuclear Weapons<\/a> program. If it does so in a way that is verifiable. After all, i think the last thing the United States<\/a> wants to do is to go into another conflict with the wrong. I think it went to test the willingness. So far despite the best intentions ever since he became president , they have rebuffed these efforts. Host there is a limited time. Because elections are scheduled for june. What could happen between now and then if anything at all . Guest it is hard to say because just the other day they said they will accelerate the Nuclear Enrichment<\/a> program. I know the Vice President<\/a> and the new secretary of state, they would all like to see if they could reach a grand bargain, but so far the evidence on the ground is if not a Nuclear Weapons<\/a> threshold, Nuclear Weapons<\/a> capability threshold. Host there is this headline based on comments by the Vice President<\/a>. He tries to deal with damage control following hagels policy flub. Chuck hagel how did he perform, and it did the Vice President<\/a> need to amend any fences . Guest there is no doubt i really respect and admire senator hagel. We have worked together. I think you saw as many viewers saw, this was the type of grilling that they would not want to go through. If i had been in the hot seat, i would suspect i would be switching as well. While i know senator hagel has done a lot or the past few weeks to alleviate some concerns with many of the senators, i say the confrontation that he had with senators mccain and graham was painful to watch and i feel on called for. I think it was unacceptable to put senator hagel in the position given the fact we are arguing over whether the surge work or did not work at iraq. It almost seems like we are arguing issues that no longer relates to what the circumstances are on the ground today. Host which leads to the headline from the Washington Post<\/a>. Yes, we have damaged al qaeda and original stronghold, but it continues to percolate as we see the situation and north africa and the middle east. Carving out enclaves that have given previously the gasping organization some new breathing room. Guest there is no doubt the offshoots of al qaeda are on the march once again. They are the cockroaches that do not seem to go away no matter how much to try to swap them. Theyre still active in yemen. Of course, there are still on the border in afghanistan as well. The problem is, in some respects with Osama Bin Laden<\/a> gone, we still have the number 2 who is working in the shadows. While we have prematurely boasted at times to have cut off a command and control structure, until we are able to understand the connectivity between him and whatever is the remnants of the central organization, you have to ask, what is the underpinning of these new jihadists. I refer to them as the jihdai sand pirates. Theyre not just driven by some islamic ideology, they are also sand pirates. They attacked the algerian have been known in extortion and criminal kidnapping four years and years. Have also been able to establish a foothold in the libya as well. It is very disconcerting to see what has taken place. We should not be surprised. Host back and forth on a number of different fronts, but let me go back to the issue of syria. This is a story from the New York Times<\/a>. A lot of attention on the president s foreignpolicy with regard to asia. In europe, a concern we are moving away from a close alliance with the European Alliance<\/a> and more towards asia. Your thoughts. Guest the administration has tried to create a branding of new Foreign Policy<\/a>, which is the socalled big event to asia. As if some way or another the implication is we are by to turn our backs on europe and the middle east and focus on asia and renew alliances because of the growing threats from north korea and the challenges that china has placed on our allies in asia through the confrontations over these gas bespeckled islands in the south china sea. I daresay as interesting as it may sound, and my present secretary clinton who made her first trip to asia, i have heard rumors to the effect incoming secretary of state kerry will make its first trip to the middle east. We are going to pivot to asia,. Back to the middle east seems to repave it. Host repivot. Host u. S. Sanctions are proving counterproductive. The economy is in ruins. The countrydeadlocked in the cos heading toward sectarian breakup. The grim prognosis for syria is provided by the latest report provided by the state Department Working<\/a> with the free syrian army. Guest i admire him and i know he has been writing quite a bit about him lately. He is symptomatic of the disease that has set into washington, which is a newfound interest in syria. When the revolution began, to find voices of concern over syria was a virtually impossible treasure hunt. We were expressing deep concern than that unless we involve ourselves, when i say involved, i will be careful once we did what we could politically to get the disparate opposition groups more organized, the situation would devolve out of control. We are in a situation or our options are in the are limited. All of the handwringing and chest pounding that the administration and people in the Academic Community<\/a> engaged in at this point in time we live the fact that we are at a point lie factere are be that the pandoras box opened up in syria is a catastrophe that will affect the region in ways we cannot imagine. Host Marc Ginsberg<\/a> is joining us from new york. He was the u. S. Ambassador to morocco and former Senior Adviser<\/a> to president jimmy carter. The other headline we are following is from reuters. The Vice President<\/a> delivering remarks saying there is a possibility of direct talks with iran. Republican senator john mccain telling reuters he would have no objection to direct talks, but questioned how much these with cheese would achieve its fundamental questions about the Iranian Nuclear<\/a> program are unresolved. [video clip] our policy is not containment. It is to prevent iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. We have also made clear that the iranian leaders need not sentence their people to economic isolation. There is still time and space for diplomacy, backed by pressure, to succeed. The ball is in the government of irans courts. Host if we were able to begin negotiations with iran and its intentions for to ease between the u. S. In iran, which became a huge problem to present jimmy carter in 1979 with the hostage situation, if we make progress, how would that use the entire neighborhood and countries around iran and afghanistan . Guest it depends on how the israelis interpret this. The israelis believe they have more to fear about Irans Nuclear<\/a> capabilities and the rest of the name of the. I have read than the rest of the neighborhood. I have read the papers. Job one for netanyahu will be refocusing on iran. How do determine what red wine there is in Irans Nuclear<\/a> capabilities . All the talk about reaching out to iran may be academic if israel feels the u. S. Is not in lockstep with them in determining what the threshold is. If an agreement is reached the last thing i want to see is a conflict with iran if it can be avoided. It would help alleviate the deepest concerns that iran has about american intentions. Lets be clear. Iran is a statesponsor of terror that continues to support Beshear Alice<\/a> i would use weapons and revolutionary guards thepresident assad in syria president assad in syria and they are the sibylline destabilizing our allies. We have to be mindful that the iranians may use that to create mischief in the region while they think they have the United States<\/a> at bay. Host he served in the middle east policy institute. There is this from joseph ramirez. What do the iranian people think of americans . Guest it is iran the that ironic that the vast majority of iranian people it is ironic that the vast majority of the iranian people are pro american. They are probably the most pro west people in the region in terms of wanting to accommodate a bilateral relationship with the United States<\/a>. All you have to do is go back to the previous election, which the a the ayatollahs forces crushed with ruthless tenacity. The iranian people want to be free of the military dictatorship that is ruling them right now. Host we welcome our listeners on cspan radio. Our guest is ambassador Marc Ginsberg<\/a>. Jack is joining us from florida. Caller good morning to you and good morning to you, ambassador ginsberg. I think you are a great american. What i see with the iranian and israeli conflict is the iranians do not want israel to be on the planet. We have a president and a Vice President<\/a> who have said many times and have walked away from the israelis when they have visited here in the United States<\/a>. The president we have in the white house right now is anti jewish. You see it and we see it. To have somebody like that representing the United States<\/a> and is supposedly a friend of israel to side with all of these radicals host thank you and we will stop it there. Marc ginsberg, your response . Guest let me try to parse the best out. There is a dysfunctionality between the two leaders of the United States<\/a> and israel. Benjamin netanyahu and brought in, and barack obama do not get along with each other. That has caused disconcerted unhappiness on both sides of the atlantic. The israelis are deeply disappointed. That is the reason for the election outcome you see in israel. The Prime Minister<\/a> will probably remain Prime Minister<\/a>. There are a lot of israelis who do not want to see this bilateral relationship undermine further. I have told many jewish audiences around the country that despite the personal relationships of these two individuals, the president has been consistent in maintaining the military and intelligence support for israel throughout these difficulties. I have consistently commanded the Obama Administration<\/a> for not letting politics get in the way of what is the essential rubric of the u. S. Israeli ire of our relationship, which is the military Strategic Support<\/a> that be bilateral relationship, which is the military support that is provided. My friends in the administration have done everything they could to ensure politics do not get into the way of that relationship. Host this is from one of our other viewers following up on your earlier point about how the iranian people see americans. My father was from iran and we always wanted better relations with the u. S. Thats me bring it back to the elections that will take place in june let me bring in that to the elections that will take place in june. What will take place . Guest im afraid very little. Mahmoud ahmadinejad has a total breach with the people around him over domestic and Foreign Policy<\/a>. There is no doubt that the economics sanctions have undermined the iranian economy. That has caused great hardship among the iranian heart iranian people. The sanctions are meant to change behavior, not punish the iranian people. So far, the iranians have not evidence that these sanctions have changed. The revolutionary guard and the ayatollah will continue to be the sole auditors arbiters the iranian Foreign Policy<\/a>. In iran, the ayatollah has the final word on National Security<\/a> regardless of who is elected president. Host focusing on out coming outgoing secretary of state Hillary Clinton<\/a>. John kerry will officially stepped in tomorrow. The story is pointing out that she leaves the state department with the simplest of yardsticks to measure her. Traveling nearly 1 million miles. 401 days on the road. She expanded the state department agenda to gender violence and the use of social media in diplomacy. From your standpoint, what is her legacy as the secretary of state . Guest the New York Times<\/a> articles on to it up well. She clearly reestablished american diplomacy around the world. She was tireless as a person who traveled around the world, as everyone knows. The mileage that was significant if not overly intense for her. She uplifted young people around the world, pursued a policy of what we call soft diplomacy. She tried hard. I know she did, to try to convince the white house that on the hard issues of libya, syria, afghanistan, the middle east, and elsewhere, they should be more readily prepared to engage. The National Security<\/a> council reflecting the president s intentions were perhaps not as ready to follow her lead. That is what is reflected in this article. There were good reasons why the white house staff and the National Security<\/a> staff and the president felt they should involve themselves in syria. The American People<\/a> were not ready to put the boots on the ground and they are not prepared still to put the boots on the ground. The story has not yet been written over exactly how the relationship between the secretary and her staff and the white house and the staff interactive on all of these policy issues. I am looking forward to the book. Host does she have a Lasting Legacy<\/a> . Guest absolutely. The accolades that are accompanying her departure from the American People<\/a> and around the world give her such a boost. Let me be a little bit more specific. There is no doubt that she leaves as one of the most popular secretaries of state in the history of the United States<\/a>. That is a great accomplishment. That suggests that she accomplished what is most important. She was a tireless ally of the president. She was a real team player. Most importantly, she brought good will on behalf of the American People<\/a> abroad. That is a great accomplishment in her own right. Given the legacy that she inherited from the previous demonstration where there was such resentment against the United States<\/a> around the world. She earns an a1 in terms of diplomacy. As far as the achievements in the hard issues and challenges we face of broad, the record remains to be written. Host there are a lot of factors that go into any decision when it involves the president doing anything publicly. What is your best insight into why the president agreed or at 60 minutes to conduct the interview with him and the secretary of state and the other the only other person has appeared with other than his wife. The question is why guest . Guest is this a signal in case she decides to run in 2016 . Is this a thankyou for all of the team work she provided to him . They were pretty intense adversaries until he convinced her to serve as secretary of state. I suspect he valued tremendously the advice she provided over the last four years. I think this was a reflection of how much they came to appreciate each others talents as well as the need for each other and the role she played. Lets remember, she was a Great Team Player<\/a> to this demonstration and to this president. There was hardly a ripple of this agreement that ever emerged between them. At a time in the first term when the president also fallen policy credentials were being questioned, president s foreignpolicy credentials were being questioned, she provided wind. Whether or not anyone wants to see it as an endorsement for a potential run on her behalf, we will leave that to the political pundits. Host charles is on the phone on a republican line. Caller i have enjoyed the show very much. I have spent the last nine years in iraq and afghanistan as a civilian contractor. I am absolutely convinced that the worst thing we can do is to pull out from afghanistan too quickly. We need to see this thing through to at least 2014 and to keep substantial presence in that part of the world. We need to keep materials presuppositions, weapons, artillery, small arms, because some kind of military action against iran is almost a certainty. Host charles, thanks for the call and thanks for putting afghanistan on the table. Marc ginsberg . That isnt it ironic during the chuck hagel confirmation hearing, the word afghanistan hardly came up. There was courage and bravery in afghanistan, particularly in the situation when the state of u. S. Policy is to withdraw. I have always believed that in terms of the military efforts on the ground, we have not achieved what we wanted to achieve. If we are going to have a mission, that mission should be to prevent what we always wanted to do, to prevent afghanistan from becoming a country in which it was a failed state, in which al qaeda and terrorist organizations could read boots and take control of the country. Reboot and take control of the country. The Administration Policy<\/a> is to do what we can to train the Afghan National<\/a> forces to develop a buffer zone between the law less provinces to the east of kabul and hope for the best. Is that a recipe for security for afghanistan . No, but that is the reality we have right now and that is the decision of the president. I support him. We cannot change the equation at this point in time. The taliban have been determined to relentlessly attacked the afghan government. We have to not pull out and make sure we focus on a counterterrorism strategy compared to the surge strategy, which did not accomplish its goal. Host another word that was not mentioned was the use of drones in the confirmation hearing. Guest this is a controversial subject. I fall on the side of supporting our Drone Program<\/a> relentlessly sorting our Drone Program<\/a> to protect our troops and to prevent the United States<\/a> from being harmed by terrorists. When al qaeda operatives were taken out by drones in afghanistan and yemen by drone strikes in afghanistan and elsewhere, i commended the president for his counterterrorism policy. It has protected the homeland as best as any weapon we could have. It has been an effective way of putting al qaeda on the defense and keeping them on the run. The president deserves congratulations for being relentlessly consistent and persistent in his Drone Program<\/a>. Does that mean it has been totally cost free . Clearly there have been civilian harmed as a result of some of these drones attacks. That Collateral Damage<\/a> is unacceptable and inappropriate. But lets be real. If we did not have a Drone Program<\/a>, the homeland would be far more insecure. Host michelle has this point. Get out of afghanistan. The russians went broke fighting that war. Nothing will ever change there. We underestimate their culture. Lets go to doug in boston. Caller the first phrase out of your guestss mouth was the Nuclear Program<\/a>. There is no proof of such a program. Marc ginsberg is a neo conservative zionist host . Host a response from Marc Ginsberg<\/a>. Guest if this individual wants to be educated, he should go to the website of the International Atomic<\/a> agency. If he does not believe that, he will buy the brooklyn bridge. Host is there a thorn policy challenge that the media has not picked up on . What concerns you the most as you survey the world . Guest we underestimate the confrontation and the plight of a potential military confrontation between japan, china, and north korea over its Missile Program<\/a>, as well as the territorial claims china has in the south china seas. There is no doubt that these skirmishes have the potential to lead to major conflict on the part of our allies. Lets be mindful of the fact that north korea has a Missile Program<\/a> that seems to be relentlessly determined to keep aiming missiles at the american homeland. With a Nuclear Program<\/a> and improving nuclear capability, that should be of deep concern to the United States<\/a>. We have watched the North Koreans<\/a> continue this for decades. We almost it used to the fact that north korea is engaged in this conflict. They have a way of creating potential conflict with south korea, which could drive us into a war on the korean peninsula. That would be equally disconcerting. Host the National Journal<\/a> has posted a piece that is available online. Why should john kerry 3 Climate Change<\/a> as a National Security<\/a> issue. Senator kerry compares treat Climate Change<\/a> as a National Security<\/a> issue. The problem we face with Climate Change<\/a> is as dangerous as any potential security issue we can think about. How important is it that the president mention it in his inaugural address . Guest Climate Change<\/a> is a National Security<\/a> issue. The agreements around the world try to deal effectively with Climate Change<\/a> issues. It is only stoke to a certain extent by how much these countries want to agree on a mission control. Anyone seeing the move out of china where people are catching on the air in beijing gagging on the air in beijing is in good health of the problem for the chinese themselves. Rising wardens could pose dangers waters could pose dangers and are the result of melting of polar ice caps. They could pose a danger to our shores. That is a good indication of how Climate Change<\/a> could affect the United States<\/a> in the years to come. I am delighted to see senator kerry and the president will make this an issue in the second term. Host is calling from kansas don don is calling from kansas. Caller we have seen a change over time of the power relationship between the u. S. And israel. It is becoming more powerful. We have to wonder if the tail is wagging the dog. We need to deal with some of the problems we have here. Israel is an outsized proportion of our budget and egypt in support of that. Host thank you for that call. Guest here is a Strategic Partnership<\/a> between israel and the United States<\/a>. It is the only real democracy in the middle east. Israel has provided the United States<\/a> with a significant amount of cities it intelligence that is helping the United States<\/a>. There is an interesting report that i suggest the gentleman read issued by the Washington Institute<\/a> for near east policy on the role that israel has played in enhancing American Security<\/a>. To a certain extent, for a small country like israel, israel has provided an outsized proportion of return of support for the United States<\/a> in terms of the type of technology and military intelligence that has helped the United States<\/a>. We should not just look at this as a oneway street. The israelis also understand the obligation of helping their american allies. Host this morning, the Washington Post<\/a> reflecting on the tenure anniversary of ofls 10 Year Anniversary<\/a> testimony. Ls in george w. Bushs book, he described the presentation as exhaustive. Later, many of the assertions would prove to be inaccurate. At the time, his words reflected the considered judgment and intelligence of the cia at home and around the world. If you look back at what he said 10 years ago, what are the lessons for american Foreign Policy<\/a> . Guest i can tell you that the lesson for me was that i made a terrible mistake of believing that speech. Of all of the people in the administration, i never believed colin paulo would misrepresent the facts and lead them to believe we should support the argument he laid out. It was the predominant reason why someone like me, who had less inclination to believe anything that dick cheney or george bush had to say about iraq cows i said paul iraq, i said powell would never mislead us. I hold him accountable for believing convincing people that we should fall in line. It was erroneous and did not have the underpinning of anything that resembled the Accurate Information<\/a> that would have just applied justify the speech in the first place. Host we are talking with Marc Ginsberg<\/a> in new york. We have a call from mississippi. Caller i am proud of our president. He is a thinking man. We cannot go and start conflict and war everywhere. If we are in north korea, which they pose as much of a threat as iran, in my opinion because they constantly threaten us. We say that we are strong and that we present all of the different threats. We do not push back on them nearly as much. Israel is our ally and we have to support them. But the United States<\/a> is the United States<\/a> of america. We have to look out for our own interests. If we get into all of these conflicts, it weakens us as a country. We have to be careful. We have to go in with both eyes open before we evolved ourselves in one conflict behind the other. Involve ourselves in one conflict behind the other. We have to be diligent with our resources. Our resources on the most important and valuable. Guest i cannot agree more with the statement you just may, maam. There is no doubt that the American People<\/a> are fatigue with the wars in iraq and afghanistan. There are enormous consequences between a military conflict between United States<\/a> and iran. Some people say less just bomb the Nuclear Facilities<\/a> and that will be the end of it lets just bomb the Nuclear Facilities<\/a> and that will be the end of it. The American People<\/a> deserve to understand more coherently and why that conflict is essential for American Security<\/a>, not only to defend our allies, but to defend the United States<\/a>. I have been in war games where we have spent time trying to understand the consequences of a military showdown between iran and the United States<\/a>. They are enormous and important for us to keep in mind. The biggest concern is that it is not just an Israeli Attack<\/a> on iran pose a military installations that will be done sth irans military Iran Military<\/a> installations that will be done with the iranian military. It is firing military rockets against Population Centers<\/a> as a retaliatory attack. That will have enormous consequences as well. We have to have our eyes wide open to do what we can to avoid the conflict and to be mindful of the fact that iran with a nuclear weapon, a proven nuclear weapon, or to the point where they are assembling a nuclear weapon, has enormous consequences for the American Security<\/a> and security of the world. It will have an enormous consequence on american interests throughout the world and in the middle east. Host ken is joining us from florida. Caller israel received rockets. Not one is really left in gaza. They received rockets and kidnappings from hamas. The media seems to indicate that netanyahu is the intransigent one. How do you make peace wiith abbas abbas . You are going to get rockets from the west bank if you make peace with one. Guest you put the nail on the head when you talked about how important it is to have a two state solution to avoid the capacity of hamas to influence all of the west bank to become more radicalized. I have been a passionate believer in a two state solution all my life. Watching the possibility of that two state solution evaporates is of deep concern to me. I agree with you. Hezbollah has armed itself to the teeth. They have 60,000 missiles aimed at israel. In 2006, it only had 15,000. Hamas is dedicated to israels destruction. There is a significant palestinian secular population that would like to reach some accommodation with israel. I agree with you that the palestinian leadership has not done what is necessary to reach an accommodation. At the same time, i am critical of the israeli governmentss policies to create new settlements on the ground. The more that is real bill solomons, it only on them israel build settlements, it only undermines the chance for a two state solution. It appears to be another lasting damage to american Foreign Policy<\/a> interests in the middle east. I hope with the new israeli election and the ascendancy of the new party headed by a newcomer that is more secular, maybe can pull netanyahu away from the precipice of pursuing an agenda that is only going to destabilize the potential for a joint two state solution. Host that me conclude with this question. You served during the last hill to term during the last two term administration, bill clinton. Chuck hagel likely to be the defense secretary and john kerry is the secretary of state. What advice would you give the president about shaping his legacy with regard to Foreign Policy<\/a> . Guest when the president went to cairo in 2009 and spoke about the out of reach to the broader muslim world and try to pursue an active Foreign Policy<\/a> in the region, i was proud to see that speech and see that out of reach. It is evident the president wants to do what he can to avoid conflicts and the engage. Reengage. Or at the foreignpolicy engagement is essential. More active Foreign Policy<\/a> engagement is essential. The secretary of state appointed a lot of people who work delegating responsibility. You had George Mitchell<\/a> in the middle east. You have Richard Holbrooke<\/a> working in afghanistan. It is going to take a senator kerry, a secretary of state carry secretary of state john kerry to do what he can to prevent many of these ongoing catastrophes from unravelling further and threatening the United States<\/a> Foreign Policy<\/a>. More forward engagement is essential. It was a good model that al gore had when he was running for president. I was proud to be part of his National Security<\/a> team. We need more forward engagement diplomacy to protect American Security<\/a> around the world. Host we will conclude on that note. Marc ginsberg joining us from new york. When we come back, we will turn our attention to the issue of immigration. What were the lessons that happened in the 1986 . We will talk to the president and cofounder of the Migration Policy Institute<\/a>. And later, an advocate of International Womens<\/a> rights to talk about secretary of state Hillary Clintons<\/a> legacy of women around the world. We are going to take you to set the state, new mexico to exploit the literary culture of new mexicos capital city. We will feature our history programming from santa fe and get a rare, oncamera glimpse inside history and traditions in new mexico. Here is a preview. It is a tribal nation that exists here in new mexico. They are a distinct in tribal nations. We live on aboriginal property. We have maintained our sovereignty as a tribal nations for centuries, beginning with the first europeans who came into this area, the spanish. They recognize the drive tribes sovereignty. All of the foreign governments have recognized the tribal nations government. The original name of the pueblo means water drinking place. Us being at the low parts of the valley, there are a lot of natural springs. The rivers run right through here. It is called that because of the Water Quality<\/a> and the abundance of water in the area. Today is an important day for us. We celebrate the new year, but we also celebrate our sovereignty. In 1862, president lincoln gave the pueblos a cane recognizing the sovereignty. It makes for good relations in the retraining our cultural identity, which is unique in the country, but it is important for moving forward because we live with nonnative people throughout this area. Host we hope you tune in to the Program Featuring<\/a> the literary culture and history of new mexicos capital city. The to our website cspan. Org. We want to welcome to the program Demetrios Papademetriou<\/a>. Frontpage story on the chicago tribune, Lessons Learned<\/a> in 1986. What worked and what did not work jim guest what worked and what did not work . Guest it is important that we understand the basic architecture of that particular bill. It is not something that we are going to follow. We will follow the same kind of architecture this time around. The major lesson we learned was that we cannot pretend that we know today what demands in the labor market will be five or 10 years from now. The major failure of that bill was not dealing with future flows, which is bringing in additional work is when the need for such workers are arise. That adolescent, the major failure. Host let me share with our audience what happened in 1986. This is courtesy of the library of congress. When immigrants living in the u. S. Since 1972 were allowed to apply for citizenship serious shortterm Illegal Immigrants<\/a> were allowed to apply for temporary leadership. Businesses were forced to hire only eligible immigrants. There was a six month prison sentence. It introduced the form that verify the identity and employment eligibility of those immigrants. With that background, let me share with you from the Washington Post<\/a>, this editorial calling for a national id card. Critics are right about the last big attempt to fix the system in 1986. It was no fix at all. Millions of undocumented immigrants were given an amnesty, but with no provision to stop future immigrants from overstaying their visas. We must not repeat the mistakes of 1986. Guest what we did in 1986 was the first thing put in the foundation for the kinds of things is editorial is calling for. We made it illegal for an employee to hire someone employer to hire someone who did not have the right to work in the United States<\/a>. Prior to that time, it was all right for employers to do so. Since 1986, we are still struggling with the proper mix of measures that will identify the ability or the rights of someone to work and for an employer to be able to have that certainty that when they hire somebody, they earned going to be hiring an illegal worker. It is not the legislation that is at fault. It is the implementation and our inability to come to an agreement as a nation have to well as to what we want an electronic system, do we want a stronger Social Security<\/a> card, or whether we want a national id card. There will be a great deal of opposition to a National Idea<\/a> id card just as there was in 1986. Host the Washington Post<\/a> calling it a biometric card for all immigrants. In 1986, what was said back then is almost identical to what is being said today. [video clip] there were things on the house side that we felt made it less of a good bill. It made it a bad bill. In conference, we stayed with them all the way to even senator samson did not want the bill in the matter that it would come senator simpson did not want the bill that would come out of committee. Our borders are out of control. This has been a situation on our borders back to a number of administrations. I supported this bill. I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and have lived here even though some time that they may have entered illegally. With regard to the players sanctions, we must have that. Not only to ensure that we can identify the illegal aliens, but also while some people testing about what it would do to employers, there is another some people keep protesting about what it would do to employers, there is another employer. They hire these individuals and hire them at starvation wages and with none of the benefits we think are normal and natural for workers in our country. The individuals cannot complain because of their illegal status. We do not think those people should be allowed to continue operating free. This is why we had the provisions with regard to sanctions. I will do everything i can to join when congress is back at it to get an immigration bill that will give us control of all our borders. Host that was 1984. Two years later, this is a picture of some of the key principles involved in the bill. The house needs to begin its negotiations in september. It is here is senator ted kennedy, alan simpson, and the congressman from new jersey. My question is, what changed politically from 1984 to get the bill passed in 1986 . Guest there were 30 more years the best two war years there were two more bills more years. Cultural interests were satisfied with provisions that would give them access to additional work should they need them. Those who were carrying the water were the californians. Mr. Panetta, who will some and people like that. Across the difference between the 1984 bill and the 1986 bill were insignificant. If you really look at the architecture elements of it, it is the same bill that passed in 19861986. In 1986. No one thought we would need additional workers sometime in the future. There were people who were parading around the halls of the congress, unemployed construction workers to point to the fact that we had unemployed americans and immigrants were taking the jobs from them. Organized labor was extremely powerful. Labor was extremely powerful, much more powerful than was likely to be. The Business Community<\/a> was powerful enough to block the bill until the Business Community<\/a> was satisfied. That is what held the bill back for about five years. Host president bush put forth his own immigration plan. Are there any significant differences between what president bush put forth in 2006 and what marco rubio outlined the earlier this week here in washington . Guest significant differences. By far, the largest difference is that you have a group of 8 senators from both sides of the aisle to basically say that we are going to move forward with the earned Legalization Program<\/a>. This is something that mr. Mccain walked away from in 2007. No other republican said in such a significant way. We have made enormous gains in terms of controlling the border and interior controls in the United States<\/a>. We have removed 400,000 people per year from the interior of the United States<\/a>. An important measure at levels we have not seen since the early 1970s. The shedding the Senate Package<\/a> speaks directly about the future workers. The bill will allow when the circumstances dictate to bring workers legally in the United States<\/a> as a means of not enticing workers to hire people without the right to work. Host i want to talk to you about a house a house proposal put forth. Our guest is Demetrios Papademetriou<\/a>, the founder of the Migration Policy Institute<\/a>. Are there lessons from the passage of the last major immigration bill . Jerry is joining us from rhode island. Caller i would like to make an informed comment on the different laws that were passed. I can go from experience. I grew up in a city that had quite a few immigrants from massachusetts. There were immigrants driving without a drivers license. Some of them were getting around the system. You may have a lot of immigrants who are not paying taxes in this country. We are covering up for that. On the other hand, agricultural people need immigrants. They are hard workers. The mexicans and the guatemalan people come into this country. I have this small firm a small farm. I had a worker who send money home to his father and ended up getting his american citizenship and got married and settled in america. That is fine. A lot of problems go on on the borders of this country where there are too in there are too many criminal elements bringing drugs and bad news and taking over the borders of arizona and walking across peoples farms and prek creating a lot of problems. Guest thanks so much for the call. Everybody agrees that the Agricultural Sector<\/a> needs to have a reliable supply of workers. Since we are all clear that American Workers<\/a> are not going to come in large numbers and work in firms, even for better wages work in farms, even for better wages. Every wealthy country on earth has experimented with draconian measures to try to make people work on farm jobs. A large proportion, the majority of farm jobs will be done by foreigners. Whatever bill we have, we have to satisfy these labor demand in your sector. With regard to the problems at the border, there is criminality. We do have people who have been used as mules to bring drugs. There are a lot of problems on the other side of the border. There are two facts that we all need to keep in mind. First of all, communities on our side of the border are safer than they have been in decades. This is a fact. The second fact is that apprehension at the border, which is an imperfect measure, is at the lowest level they have been in a long time. No one is suggested we should give up or reduce our attention to border security. Both the president s proposal and the proposal of the senate make it clear that we will continue with enforcement and we will only move forward on the Legalization Program<\/a> if they are guaranteed that those efforts will continue. Host jim has this suggestion on our twitter page. How many legal immigrants from latin america are prevented per year . Guest we no longer have special numbers for latin america. We used to have a special proportion of the overall quota for latin america until 1978. In 1978, we took that out of the program and we simply have a global number. The global number is somewhere around 250,000 people. In addition to immediate family members of americans, people who are citizens, all together that brings us to 1. 1 Million People<\/a> per year. From those, about 93 are family members. Latin america is responsible for about 40 of that total. Host what is the Migration Policy Institute<\/a> . Guest it is an independent, nonpartisan think tank that does a lot of research and tries to inform the policy debate. Host i want to share one quote from one of your issue papers that is available on the web site. By moving immigrants from the informal economy to the formal one, legalization will result in greater wage increases, greater tax payments and giving a boost to native and foreignborn workers. In terms of bringing money to the foreign the federal government, what impact does this have . Guest this is not spigot death. The federal government paid this is not speculate to live peculative speculative. The federal government gave money to people who became legalized as a result of the 1986 act until 1983. There were significant gains in terms of wages, more secure jobs, and greater tax receipts for the federal and state government. Host one other quote from the federal policy brief period requirements that immigrants learn the host language because it increases the likelihood that they will become successful, increasing future gains from legalization. On newsmakers, the issue of immigration came up. [video clip] can you give me one or two precise example is about the 1986 bill that you would like to fix . We do not need to fix this part of it. For the first time in the history of our country, it was made illegal for employers to hire somebody without papers. That was based on the fact that we had documentation that would show that they were here legally or not here legally. We did not anticipate an industry of false documents. That ended up being a smokescreen. We did not anticipate it at the time. More secure documents, but securing the border in a physical way with personnel, with a sense, with whatever it takes to make sure you cannot cross the border without papers. The same it is the same as an american going down to mexico. You would not want, without papers. That was not anticipated. That is why the whole scheme the not work. We legalize 3 Million People<\/a> based on that proposition and now we reward illegality . Common sense dictates that anyone who went through that should not have their heads stuck in the sand and say we did not learn anything. It looks to me like this paper does not show that they studied the history of 1986 when they put a statement in there that they will fix this once and for all. In the final analysis, it is my responsibility to make sure they do. And under, you call the 1986 deal amnesty. Senator, you call it amnesty. Are you using that same word . With three illegalize emigration or Something Else<\/a> illegal, i would say you have given that person amnesty. Host senator Chuck Grassley<\/a> on cspans newsmakers. More on thehill. Com on the agreement worked out by Senate Democrats<\/a> and republicans, a group of eight. The secretary of Homeland Security<\/a> would have final say over whether the border is secure enough to put 11 million Illegal Immigrants<\/a> on a path to citizenship. More on what senator Chuck Grassley<\/a> was commenting on. Your comments . Guest what the document actually says is that they needed some sort of a commission made up of border governors that would open the door for them to put people on the path to citizenship. They clarified it later ron that the final say was going to rest with the secretary of Homeland Security<\/a> they clarified later on. This is not a certification that the secretary could make today because there are no match for its no metrics under which they can measure what the the border is secure or not. We will have to develop metrics to see when we have developed additional control. In terms of senator grassley, it is the once and for all. This is something that was said in 1986. This is a onetime only deal. Opponents of legalization point to that kind of statement time and again. When you try to pass a bill coming you will fail. When you try to pass a bill, you will fail. Im sure many people will say we got it right this time. We have a robust interior of reinforcement, etc. The fact is no one has come up with an alternative about what to do with the 11 Million People<\/a> in the United States<\/a> illegally. I think the country has turned the corner now and is willing to look at a broad, earned the legalization and this is a key difference. In 1986, the only requirement we asked of people was to be continuously present since 1982. That was partially a mistake because, as mr. Grassley said, it created a fraudulent industry. Did you want to have rent receipts that you been here for four years . There will be someone willing to give you them. Or there will be an employer to write a letter for you. It is important that we look forward, that we ask people to prove Going Forward<\/a> what it is that they have been doing after they first register with the authorities. This way you can avoid the significant mass that happened in the immigration and control act in 1986. Host that is our topic you are just tuning in. Our guest is Demetrios Papademetriou<\/a>, cofounder of the imMigration Policy Institute<\/a>. Were looking at the bill signed by Ronald Reagan<\/a> back in 1986. Rob from chula vista, california. Good morning. Caller Demetrios Papademetriou<\/a>, nice to speak to you. I dont want to butcher your name. I am in the ndia. I just submitted an entry form. Homeland security [inaudible] my business is metrics. When the customer is talking about entry and crossing making it safer, i believe about what you are saying about the biometrics card. Id like to see that come back. Host what is your business . Caller biometric access. I work for a few distributors. I talked to make you the other day about working more in mexico. There is a wealth of highly talented individuals. Host thank you for the call. Lets go back to this editorial talking about the biometric access. If you drive in this country, you have to have a drivers license. The Washington Post<\/a> is calling for national id card, what rob was just saying. Guest regardless on how the latest attempt to fix the emigration turns out, there are certain things that are true. Were going to have a more reliable and a more secure way of identifying people who have a right to work in the United States<\/a>. The big battles will come on whether everyone should be required to show such a cause and the fact that we have more secure drivers licenses and play that role for people who already have a secure drivers license or passport. Or whether we will be moving to the next step, in national id card. It is a very, very large step forward. It is something that requires an awful lot of people, an awful lot of Political Capital<\/a>. A lot of the Civil Liberties<\/a> groups will be arguing that they do not believe in the national id card and they have alternative documents. The idea would be to create a database where enough information is an elite it about people who will be changing jobs, foreignborn, those who have a right to work in the United States<\/a>. You can find out whether the person seeking employment from you is indeed the person they say they are and that they have their right to work in the United States<\/a>. Host the headline this morning in the chicago tribune. Lessons learned from 1986 amnesty. Mark williams says this. Guest its always a very difficult discussion because i do not think the United States<\/a> likes to borrow ideas from abroad. And no other country has a border with a country that is as far below in terms of the Economic Development<\/a> as we do with mexico. Mexico is making gigantic strides towards a firstworld economy. Canada has a terrific system, but the only border that it has is with the United States<\/a>. The europeans, some of them, have a good system, but to get there you have to go through an awful lot of the european union. The idea of an id card and mail work well in some places, particularly in europe, but it would not work particularly well for a large country like the United States<\/a> because what the europeans require four people who have a national id card is every time that they move, every time they change education, etc. , they have to go through the authorities and notify them. The average american will find this preposterous and they will simply not obey. Lets focus on these systems or the much stronger documents that we now have, particularly the drivers license. Common standards moving forward in that regard, we can make up enough ground without having to spend an enormous amount of Political Capital<\/a> and i am using the national id card the same way that they use it where someone will carry a piece of paper that says this is where this person lives, these are their biometrics, etc. Host our guest is with the immigration policy group. In 1986 bill, this is what applied. From a cspan q a interview, this Johns Hopkins<\/a> surgeon was someone who benefited from in 1986 law. This is from the cspan video library. [video clip] across the border between mexico and the United States<\/a> and came into the san joaquin valley. It was no challenge to find a job. There were not a lot of people trying to get the job pulling wheat with the same hands now doing brain surgery. Cauliflower, corn, all of those things. My hands were bloody. They were continuously hurt. I came in and asked for a job and i immediately got it. Right around when Ronald Reagan<\/a> had the Immigration Reform<\/a>, it gave a working authorization specifically for people who had been in the United States<\/a> for a certain amount of time and then there was this specialization for pate who came here to work as migrant farmworkers. You had a working authorization. Then you pay taxes. Eventually, you could not go back to your country, but and allow you to work legally, pay taxes, and eventually apply for a green card which is essentially what i did. The country was welcoming people like me who work in the fields. It was a different time, you know . I felt that i was given an opportunity, an opportunity to live the american dream. Host his book becoming dr. Q. He emigrated and now he is a brain surgeon at Johns Hopkins<\/a> in baltimore. We sometimes forget that this is what really makes the United States<\/a> exceptional. This story could never have been told or happened in another country. This person came under the special deal that gave the rights agricultural employers to bring in additional workers, demonstrating they needed them, the special program that only lasted for three years. He was one of the lucky ones that was able to do so and then gained legal status, permanent residency, and citizenship. I think it is important for us to remember that we are doing it with a different set of tools this time than we did in 1986. The border apparatus is not a formidable. 22,000 votes on the ground. The technology that helps these Border Patrol<\/a> agents is absolutely remarkable. The interior enforcement of the United States<\/a> is coming along and it will continue to be so. 2013 is not 1986. We made another big mistake in 1986. We allow people who had been here for four years, since 1982, in other words by years worth of people who were here illegally, roughly 50 of the legal resident population, we allowed them to remain and we protected many of their employers. In the legislation, we started in 1987 with a nucleus of about 3 Million People<\/a> who were here illegally and continued to live here it illegally in grew to 11 or 12 Million People<\/a>. We did so by not having a plan for bringing in additional workers when the economy was booming through the 1990s until about 20042005. Employers took the easy path, employed people who come here illegally. We are doing much better job in terms of employer sanctions. Fines have gone up dramatically. All the employers have really skyrocketed. Were going to do much more of this. It is now time to have Immigration Reform<\/a>. Host on twitter. From toms river, new jersey, youre with us with Demetrios Papademetriou<\/a>. Caller i believe in no more emigration. I was brought up to be an american. My ethnicity has nothing to do with it. That was in our private home. The people coming here now are so arrogant. They demand things. My parents and grandparents came in through the front door politely. Host we will leave it there. Guest youre absolutely right. Things have changed. In many ways was much easier to come to this country and particularly from the places your parents probably came from. At that time, we were running almost exclusively a pro european immigration policy giving enormous advantage to people from europe and we pretty much locked everyone else. In 1907 until 1965, there was an exclusion to anyone coming from where we call the asian and pacific triangle, not just about all the countries outside of europe. Were trying to run a race neutral, ethnicity neutral country of origin neutral policy since the massive reform of the immigration system in 1965. Host this is a News Conference<\/a> recovered last monday one day before the president went to vegas to outline his immigration proposal. In the New York Times<\/a> this morning. As you look at these headlines, is this the year we will see a new immigration bill in washington . Guest were going this an extraordinary amount of Political Capital<\/a> invested in doing what it is you are saying. Whether or not were actually going to see this or not will depend on what the final bill will look like. At the end of the day, the compromise basically polls as some of the key interests organized labor, etc. , it will be very difficult. Host Demetrios Papademetriou<\/a> is the cofounder of the imMigration Policy Institute<\/a>. Migrationpolicy. Org. Thank you for sharing your outlook with us. Please come back again. When we come back, we will turn our attention to secretary of state Hillary Clinton<\/a> who left office to become a top advocate for womens rights worldwide. We will talk with ritu sharma joining us here in the table to talk about what is next from women around the world. First, a look of the other sunday program that can be heard coasttocoast on x ofm channel 119. Coast to coast on xm 119. Some of the topics include president obamas second determine gender, gun violence, immigration, and the nfl obamas second term agenda. Today, guests include secateurs defense leon panetta and general dempsey. Former d. C. Public School Chancellor<\/a> michelle rhee. At 2, Chris Wallace<\/a> with Wayne Lapierre<\/a> of the nra and captain mark kelly, cochair of americans for responsible solutions. On cnn, defense secretary panetta, secretary dempsey, and former labor secretary elaine chow. Bob schieffer talking with nfl commissioner Roger Goodell<\/a>. These are brought to you as a Public Service<\/a> by the networks and cspan. Beginning at noon with nbcs meet the press. 1 00, this week. 2 00, fox news sunday. And finally at 4 00 p. M. Eastern, face the nation from cbs. Listen to them on cspan radio, 90. 1 fm radio, nationwide on xm 119, on your smartphone or on line to cspanradio. Org. John mccains 2000 campaign when he ran for president is the most memorable campaign of any that i have ever covered or been around. We will never see it again. George w. Bush had all of the face cards, the republican governors, the backing of all of the money. John mccain went and held 114 town meetings and stayed until every question was answered. You see the light bulb going on over these heads. We will never get a patients bill of rights until my party is not owned by the insurance companies. There was this refreshing candor. He was totally open to the press. There was a sort of welcoming that no one had seen before and no one has certainly seen since. Mark shields on his career in politics and the Washington Press<\/a> corps. Host we want to welcome ritu sharma, president and cofounder of women drive worldwide. Thank you for being with us. A lot of stories this morning about secretary of state Hillary Clinton<\/a> who left office on friday. One of her legacys involving women around the world am looking out for womens rights. Guest absolutely. The legacy she is leaving is incredibly profound. We have heard all of her speeches, but what she has done over the last few years has really transformed the lives of millions and millions of women. Its incredible. Host more so than other secretaries of state like Madeleine Albright<\/a> or Condoleezza Rice<\/a> . Guest lambrequin ground where this had never been discussed, but secretary clinton really took this to a completely new level. Host this is one of her final events we covered, the council on foreign relations. She took questions and outline some of the key issue she tried to work on over the last four years. Its available on our web site in its entirety. Heres a portion. [video clip] if women and girls everywhere were treated as equals two men, we would see political and economic progress everywhere. This is not only immoral issue, which of course, it is. It is an economic issue, a security issue and it is the Unfinished Business<\/a> of the 21st century. Therefore, it must be central to u. S. Foreign policy. Host you posted this for politico. Who will you look for . Guest incoming secretary john kerry has been a great champion for women. We are hopeful that he will do that. He was the lead sponsor of the International Dialogue<\/a> for women. We are anxious to meet with him. Were anxious to see and hear exactly what his agenda will be. He has made a commitment to carry on a global womens issues and keep the ambassadorship at that level to keep the Program Going<\/a> that she started. The question for us is will he wide and the programs. Host 20 years ago, first lady Hillary Clinton<\/a> said that womens rights are human rights issues. Why was that significant . It guest she made that statement in beijing, a very careful place to make that kind of statement and it was very intentional. Up until that time, we thought of human rights as civil and political rights, asylum seekers, womens rights were just off to the side as a separate issue. She merely said, look. Women are human beings so womens rights are human. We have to think of them as integral. When you look at violence against women and girls, one in three will experience violence in her lifetime. That is a massive human rights violation. It had a profound affect. That statement sparked some International Momentum<\/a> and a new movement around women and girls. Host has it changed in the last 1020 years . Guest i think it has. You see europe struggling over this issue. It is mostly good around the world. Laws are being passed, and forced. Look at the riots in india over the ratpe several weeks ago. That is a profound shift for women to take to the streets. Not just women, but men to go out in solidarity. I do think this issue is really tipping, not just in the United States<\/a> but very much so round the world than the time has come for governments everywhere to face up and do the right thing. Host women following the improving condition of the 14 yearold girl shot in the head by the alabama for simply speaking up that girls should have the same rights as men. In the head by taliban. Had she become a symbol in that part of the world gu . Guest no question. For the rights for girls to go to school, to learn. She is an incredible, incredible young woman. In our country and around the world, i think people are finally realizing that a girl just going to school is in a way a rebellious acts of and that is something we need to support. We need to protect girls and their right to go to school and to learn. Host our phone lines are open. The numbers are on your screen. You can also join us on our Facebook Page<\/a> or send us an e mail. Journal cspan. Org or tweet cspanwj. Why has there been gender inequality . Guest the answer has deep historical roots. Violence is the enforcement mechanism to keep women down. The greater physical strength is what has tipped the scale historically. Once those things began to happen and once the inequality, the gap widens, then it gets hard. In many cases, there are benefits that men accrue from having women pushed them. We need to in light of a lot of these men in that the future is coming and women are going to be empowered. You can either go with the flow, evolve, embrace it and it will be a better world, or you can get washed away. Host looking back at history, it has been less than 100 years that women have even had the right to vote. If you look at the debate prior to allowing women to vote, how are we doing in this country when it comes to gender equality or inequality . Guest were doing better than most except for the nordic countries. We still see pay inequity and health care not really being addressed because it is a womens issue. You still see women in the lower wage occupations. We still do have a way to go in this country, but were having an open conversation about it. That is a very precious thing that were able to do in the United States<\/a> that most women do not have that luxury. They cannot even speak out. Host from indianapolis on the republican line, thank you for waiting. Caller this is the most hypocritical topic. Is the lady aware that Hillary Clinton<\/a> could not even protect the young innocents in turn like Monica Lewinsky<\/a> . I think she was like 20. Is she aware of all the charges against bill clinton fighting in a sexual attack against democratic supporters of him . They were not republican women. Are you aware that she called women who would come up and tell the truth, which took great courage, she would call them bimbos and attack them . How on earth do you think she is a protector of womens rights when she could not even protect monocle wednesday, and in turn in the white house . Guest i understand your emotion around this issue, but personal life and those issues around president clinton and secretary clinton is out of their business. I do not make statements about anyones in eight of morality, but what i can tell you is that he has put our money where her mouth is. I cannot speak to what has happened in the past, what has happened in the last four years is that she has put tens of millions of dollars behind great programs for girls education, womens empowerment, womens economic opportunity, and to me, from wherever that comes, we will commence. Host your the ambassador to womens issues and large and it will continue under senator john kerry. What were the duties and response abilities . She was the ambassador to womens issues. Guest she was responsible for ensuring that every diplomatic issue around the world that happens thinks about women and girls. When a secretary goes to mexico, there is a part of that agenda that has included a reaching out and meeting with the womens rights organizations. It is responsible for the followup to address the idea is that those women on the ground have. It is quite a large job anything about the ambassador essentially for have the worlds population. Host 1 viewer guest in many parts of the world, men think they own women and they still struggle to get the legal rights to own their own property and bear them and their name. The best thing we can do is support those women who live, breeze, operate in those cultures. They know how to maneuver the ins and outs of pushing womens rights in a muslim majority country. There of the women really need our support and help. Host our guest is a graduate from Johns Hopkins<\/a>. Jack is on the phone from houston, texas. Good morning. Caller thank you for cspan. I would like to ask about the number of rapes in condo, india, he, and also the number of women incarcerated due to the drug policy. Is there any progress being made . Can you comment . Host rapes in congo and haiti. Guest everyone has been thinking about the horrible human rights atrocities in congo, mass rape as a weapon of war. Secretary clinton did a few things in that regard. One is to add political pressure on the rebel groups to sign an agreement to make sure that perpetrators are caught and prosecuted. She invested time and money to help women and girls build safe, a protected areas for themselves where they could pursue Economic Opportunities<\/a> there to try and improve their lives even in this situation. Further in the u. S. Intervention, it is the gender cide and so i thank you for bringing that up. Haiti, after the earthquake, a lot of raping women and girls. Its very common in disaster situations. We were disappointed in the Womens Community<\/a> that the response was not forthcoming right after the earthquake. There has been a lot of investment and the way theyre doing things in haiti, their strengthening the local womens organizations there to help women survivors to prevent violence and to teach women how to keep themselves safe, even things like giving the women a whistle so they can sound a warning if they are attacked. Little things like that can make a big difference. Host our guest is ritu sharma from women and thrive worldwide. Statment, island, new york, good morning. Caller thank you. I just want to thank the staff on cspan. Today has been a trifecta, all three segments, but also for the inauguration and everything you do every day. My organization is one world live systems and i would love to speak to you at another time. Host how can people get in touch with you . Guest www. Womenthrive. Org. I hope you reach out. I would love to talk to you. Caller thank you for the work that you do. I dont want to broaden this beyond former secretary clinton. I am a peace corps veteran volunteer. When reagan was taking off the jimmy carter solar panels, the women in my village has owner solar power to deliver safely. I was fired from the prescored but i was vindicated. I testified on behalf of a woman who died three months after giving birth and i was fired for allegedly teaching birth control. I walked with them on the capital for that, but even gensler right now has one solution called 1 billion rising. Eve ensler has one solution. Men and women need to stand against rape, abuse, a lack of rights. Having lived in posttraumatic stress, i stand and i am very vocal. Marion price is being held without charge and i went there in 1996. I think the number one issue were going to see just, as in ireland, israel, with the one state. We are going to see what happened to the soviet union happen in afric. Back to i want to get eve ensler. I encourage people to go go 1 billion rising. Onebillionrising. Org. Flash mobs will break out all over the world with a message and a song of empowerment. You raise a lot of points. What i take from what you said is really the importance of americans reaching out, whether it is through the peace corps, travel, supporting aid agencies. We have a profound role to play in the world. We are not here to save everyone. We have significant problems at home. Important to know is that in all of this we provide overseas, it is only half of 1 of the u. S. Federal budget. When people Start Talking<\/a> about cutting the assistance, theyre cutting immunizations for children, Maternal Health<\/a> programs, taking girls out of school. Our government really gets a huge bay and for our buck get it is penny wise and pound foolish to think about getting rid of host that what are the objectives of women thrive worldwide . Is there progress . Where does your funding comes from . Guest our funding is all private. We did not take any government money because our job is to push across the street and down in washington for concrete, real, meaningful action. Once we get that, we go overseas and we work with womens groups to track and monitor what the u. S. Government is doing there. We are about holding their feet to the fire and making sure good things happen with our tax payer dollars as of that they are not wasted. What has the progress been . We have a whole range of new programs for womens leadership, Economic Opportunities<\/a>, not grants programs for women and girls. I could go on and on. Theres a lot that needs to be carried on. We love secretary carry, but we will also be their holding his feet to the fire secretary kerry, but we will hold his feet to the fire. Host womenthrive. Org. Joining us from missoula, montana. Caller thank you for taking my call. You may think im not even asking this question, but i want to know what is that men have to fear of surrounding the issue of womens equality . What exactly do men have to fear . In this country, at least from my understanding, women outnumber the men in this country. Frankly, i have some respect for that issue, that fact that women outnumber us. We should we, as men, but should be more accommodating and more aware of their issues. Im just curious what you think about that. Host are you fearful for something . If so, what is it . Fearful of women having equal rights because they are human beings. Frankly, steve, this is rather a simple thing to say, but you and i would not be here if it was not for women. Isnt that right . [laughter] host a wise point. Guest 10,000 points for you. That was the right answer. Being a woman, i cannot get in the head of a man to tell you what it is they fear. I think it comes down to the root cause of the same things that brought us racism, classism. It is fundamentally about the fear of others. Others being better, stronger. To be honest, and the man who perpetrate incredible violations against women, i would venture there some of the most insecure, mentally disabled man on the planet. I agree with you. The best thing man can do is to really encourage other men. Just conveyed to friends that the sexual jokes are not appropriate. Look at how my support my daughter. I often speak to men that supporting women and girls is absolutely the sexiest thing you can do. Want more attention . Support women and girls. Host a dissevered discrimination in your own life . Guest never in the United States<\/a> have you ever suffered discrimination . I have felt it overseas. One experience was when i was in kabul in 2003 and cited are not a whim that i would put our decide3d on a whim i would put on a burka and walk alone in the street. It was the scariest thing i have ever done in my life. I made it about halfway down the street. A man open the back seat to his car and tell me to get in. I have never been so frightened. I turn around and sprinted back to the hotel. It is just those moments of feeling what it is like to be a woman, to be a prisoner in your own country, to be a prisoner in your own home, literally wearing a disguise looking out behind that fabric is like looking out of the bars of a cell. Host from idaho on the republican line, go ahead. Caller good morning. I guess i would like to ask ritu if for organization is pro choice. If you are prochoice, there are millions of little baby girls who are being aborted throughout the world every single year. Hillary clinton is a huge advocate of the socalled pro choice. Guest i think that the female infanticide is another grotesque expression and the fact that families and societies do not value our girls. They do not value the girls as well as the boys. What we have to do to change that is to really get to the root cause of those problems. We really need to do a lot of education. Womens groups there are trying to do that, to have families, men, and women also really understand that having a girl child is a blessing. It is not a curse. I think that we can change minds. I know we are changing minds. Host has organization weighed in on a prochoice, prolife . Guest it is an issue we try to remain very neutral on. It is such a lightning rod. Theres a whole movement in washington of organizations that work on a boat work on abortion issues. What we tried to do is look at all the other issues that other effect women and girls. Education, opportunity, agricultural development. We are trying to address the holistic picture. What i would love to see is that there are wrote reasons women feel they cannot handle another child, whether it be a boy or a girl, so that we can remove those reasons of every child be welcomed into the world. Host we are talking about womens rights and our guest is ritu sharma. Next caller from florida. Caller i have a comment i would like both of you, television and how they keep women down. Even recently on modern family , they had a certain sure that show having gloria ag denied she does not have a brain because she is pregnant. This is supposed to be about modern family and modern families. What is your thought . Did you see this recently . There have been other programs in the same way. Guest i wish i had time to watch modern family. I am lucky if i catch it cspan every once in awhile. My hope is that the media, television, the movie industry will be more aware of what the project into the world. People see things. Children see these things. This is exactly the wrong kind of thing to be putting out there in the world. Women are a little absent minded when we are pregnant, but it should not be portrayed in a negative way. Host how old are your boys . Guest eight and thirteen. Host what you tell them about how to treat women and girls . Guest they think we are equal. It just is. There is no question. Weve never even had an outright conversation that women and girls should be equal. They know about the work that i do overseas. I took them to africa in february so they could get a sense and really see what its like to live in poverty. I think if we raise our children and this inequality between men and children, it is just a fact they grow up understanding. Host iowa on the democrats line. You are on the air. Caller ritu, thank you for being there, but i would like to address some of the things you said. As an elderly woman who has been in business, i had an awful time trying to get my bankers to listen to me. I would go to try to borrow money. I furnished the money when my husband and i started and i was part of the team as we worked through and worked harder for many years. Host what was the timeframe for this . Caller i went out of business in the 1990s. I went out because of foreign owned businesses. Trying to get a banker to listen to you, you go in to try to bar monday borrow money. They said, you have to ask your husband you can have a credit card. As your husband if you can borrow money. I had money in the bank to buy my own car, but i wanted to get credit. I went in to borrow the money to buy a car and i ended up buying it with cash because i could not get credit from my bank that i have been working with for a 10 20 years. Thats the kind of thing we had going on year. Ritu, there are only threesix women in jail for every 100 man . We are much better citizens and more reliable. Guest warrior gloria, im sad you had that experience. Im glass am guessing this is probably in the 1960s. That was Standard Practice<\/a> then. You really are a trailblazer. Women in my generation o u a thanks for bringing your head owe you a thanks. If a banker tried to do that to me today, we have to talk to your husband, there would be discrimination lawsuits all over that. Its very uncommon, very difficult for lenders to discriminate in this country. In most countries where i work overseas, they are experiencing the exact same thing that you did. What we want to do is try to help them crack that feeling and help them be able to get what they need and for women to be able to act independently. Host derry, new hampshire. Caller i am a woman of mature age, a senior citizen. I have been an admirer of Hillary Clinton<\/a> for some time. It is the women of this world, if we can get anywhere, hillary will be the want to get us there. I do hope and pray that she may consider running for president. Thank you. Guest you heard it here. Hillary 2016. If she as she said, it takes a village. It has taken the effort of many women, womens organizations, to bring this issue to live, to bring it to this point. She has been an incredible leader for us. Whenever i heard her speak, she is very aware that she needs to be supported by hundreds of thousands, millions of women who are fighting for the same thing. I will leave the president ial decisions to her. I know she wants to just rest for now. We will see. Host if she does not run, do you see others who would break the Glass Ceiling<\/a> she talked about when she was raising it in 2008 . If so, who . Guest i hope so. There are a lot of strong women in the Democratic Party<\/a> and the Republican Party<\/a>. I will not put my fingers on any one person, but there are some rising stars in the new senate class of women. Keep your eyes on them. It will be wonderful. Whichever party, maybe both will run a women candidates. Its coming. Its going to be very soon. I do not think that we will be waiting much longer. I think it will be disappointing that we did not have any women, but its on its way. Host did sarah pailin set back women . What about Geraldine Ferraro<\/a> . Guest there has been a mix of that. But sarah pailin, her credibility was really called into question. Same with Geraldine Ferraro<\/a>. It was a mixed bag. Seeing women out there, seeing them run, seeing them in the political i was a good thing. Is think Hillary Clinton<\/a> changed all that. She is really a woman who is incredibly bright, very well prepared, very experienced. That fundamentally changed the game. Host ritu sharma, womens rights. I will let you get back to your 8 and your 13. Please come back again. 8year old son and 12year old son. Tomorrow, judith conti. New york city passed a bill forbidding employers are embracing hiring decisions based on the amount lima status of the individual. We will talk about that with judith. Also peter whener, a senior fellow of the ethics and Public Policy<\/a> center, a veteran of the bush administration, and former Senior Adviser<\/a> for romney for president campaign. What is next for the Republican Party<\/a> . And David Silverberg<\/a> and the ongoing debate about Border Patrol<\/a> and immigration. That is tomorrow morning at 7 00 a. M. Eastern, 4 00 a. M. Pacific. Thank you for being with us this sunday. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Have a great week ahead. C [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions Copyright National<\/a> cable satellite corp. 2013] next, newsmakers with iowa senator Chuck Grassley<\/a>. Then president obama talks about immigration policy and then a hearing on possible changes to gun laws. This week bonn newsmakers we are joined by senator Charles Grassley<\/a> use the top ranking republican on the judiciary committee. Thank you for being a part o newsmakers. We have two congressional reporters joining us. David has the first question. Clydes the hearings last week on guncontrol, it did they change anything . Did they change the nature of the debate . The debate","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia601305.us.archive.org\/29\/items\/CSPAN_20130203_120000_Washington_Journal\/CSPAN_20130203_120000_Washington_Journal.thumbs\/CSPAN_20130203_120000_Washington_Journal_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240619T12:35:10+00:00"}