Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20130724 : vimarsan

Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20130724

On the floor, the pentagons budget bill is expected with an amendment on the nsa, syria, and egypt. One an amendment could curtail the nsas ability to collect telephone and other data. We want to get your reaction to that provision. Host remember, you can send us a tweet or post your comments on facebook host let me begin with the New York Times story. This piece host we want to get your take on this. What do you think about this amendment the house is expected to vote on later this week . It was introduced by a republican in the house. I want to get your take on it. Host a little bit more from the New York Times this morning. It says host the senator spoke at the center for American Progress yesterday about this program. Is a liberal progressive think tank here in washington, as many of you know. And we covered his speech here on cspan. Here is a little bit. [video clip] at this point i think weve gotten in front of us some very serious questions. ,hat happens to our government our civil liberties, and our wonderful system, our bake it basic moxie, if our surveillance state is allowed to grow unchecked . He always expanding omnipresent surveillance state . What happens if it just keeps growing and growing . As we have seen in recent days, intelligence leadership is determined to hold on to this authority. Merging the ability to conduct surveillance to reveal every aspects of the persons life with the ability to conjure up the Legal Authority to execute that surveillance, and finally removing any accountable judicial oversight creates the unprecedented opportunity to influence our system of government. That is what senator ron wyden, democrat from oregon, had to say host that is what senator ron wyden, democrat from oregon, had to say. The bill is expected to come to the floor for a vote later this week. This is what the congressman had to say when he testified before the rules Committee Monday night about his amendment. Host so, it limits what the nsa can collect. What do you think about this amendment . Should it be approved by the house of representatives . Pine ridge, from south dakota. Democratic caller. What do you think . Caller im against it. I think it is a violation of our constitutional rights. I was pretty upset whenever i heard about that. Host you think the house should go through with the vote . Caller i think they should vote against it. Im at an indian reservation in pine rates, south dakota, and i think every year they are taking more and more of our constitutional rights. Basic constitutional rights. Ive been american all my life, paying taxes. 52 years old. Working since i was 13. I have always written to senators when i was against something. But i am totally against this. To william next from pennsylvania. Republican caller. Caller good morning. Host what do you think . Ill echo what do i think . Caller what do i think . Who thoughteryone the government was spying on us were liberal conspiracy theorist but now we find out we are not conspiracy theorists, but they do record everything, thanks to mr. Snowden, we know that this is true. Amazing to me that even when the light of day shines in on this fact and our legislators finally do something to try to curb it, our executive branch tries to continue this practice. We are toly not be secure in our belongings, persons, and papers. This is so obviously and overreach of a tyrannical. Overnment i wonder if they are monitoring the fact that i am calling you right now. Host william, let me bounce this off of you. Here is a piece by Stephen Bradberry of list in the Washington Post on monday. He was the head of the justice Departments Office of Legal Counsel from 20052009. In 2006, he led the departments legal efforts to obtain approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court for the telephone the metadata order. Here is what he had to say host in other words, the amendment would take away the ability to have the broader collection of data. It does not work, according to Stephen Bradberry, unless they can collect a big pile in order to see patterns. What do you think . Caller my comment is good. Ok . I tell you why. For one thing, i think people are going to have to get a hold of their telecommunications and tell verizon them, we are tired of you giving our data to these people. You have to stand up for our constitutional rights. We are trying to stand up for our constitutional rights. I am not worried about terrorists. I am worried about our government. That is what i am worried about. In cringes further and further. Host iron patriot says this. Pass the amendment. At some point the constitution mean something, or it doesnt. Allalso nara regulate federal records. The nsa collection breaks every authorized retention. There are rules. James sorry, i lost james. Fromo to austin independence, missouri. Democratic caller. You are on the air. What . , you know you got to turn down that television. We are getting a lot of feedback. The controlfolks in room workout the phone issue because i messed up by pressing two buttons at the same time. We will work that out and keep taking your phone calls here in just a minute. Let me go back to the New York Times article about what senator wyden had to say. We covered his speech yesterday. He says it says that next froms go to ron california. Republican caller. Early morning. Caller good morning. Interesting that people now seem so upset with the surveillance. 1999, weed from lost most of our First Amendment rights through the courts, and nobody was paying attention must much because they were just saying, well, i guess everything is fine. The police could stop you right now, your car, and go through all of your belongings where they never could do that prior to 1999. The data center that they just opened up in utah, it goes active, i think, in september. At whyshould go and look we were building this incredible tofice there that is going contain all the records of the worlds knowledge by the end of the year. It is a little late now to close the door on the barn. The reality is, our data should be available. I tell you why. Tsarnaevok at the brothers or any future terrorist out here, we have phone cards now, there are cell phones, we have all of this technology. Somehow it has to be collected, the data, so we can contain those people in the future somehow who want to do us harm. If we do not want to do that and we are not concerned about any of that, then maybe mr. Wyden is probably right and we should vote against it. But i do not think we can continue even if that bill passes. Country,inion of our right now National Security is the key ingredient. And in the future, in the foreseeable future, it has to be the priority. As far as i am concerned, just too late, try it next time. Host this is from senator feinstein and chambliss, the chairwoman and Ranking Member of the Senate Intelligence committee. Their statement about the amash amendment says this lets hear from host lets hear from tim from north carolina. Caller the last caller has got it all wrong. ,ny time we give up any freedom the terrorists have won. Looking for bogeyman under the bed, it we give up any more freedom. The fact we have people so far right and so far left agreeing on this, it ought to help the Senate Judiciary committee something about what is going on. Because it is just getting worse and worse. Anytime we are looking for i amman and terrorists a retired cop. We can do oldfashioned police were contacted them. They dont need to be listening to what i am talking to people about. Host can we catch them in time . With oldfashioned police work . Caller yes. I think so. To profiling. I hate to say it, but that is the truth. It looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. Host a viewer on twitter says this no spying without court order. But the funding. Thomas, maryland, democratic caller. Caller we should repeal the patriot act. Right after it happened in 9 11 and the republicans were in power, george bush and all of these people, they were using these here tactics to make theycans feel as though were being constantly attacked. It seems as though they were trying to use it for political reasons. You are writing down the highway and see signs, check on your neighbor, and all this sort of thing. It definitely needs to be repealed. We became the terrorists. We are the people being checked on, not the al qaeda, but the American People who are being processed. Let me just say this this guy in new york, what is his name, running for mayor . Host anthony weiner, former congressman . Republicans are so bad that people are willing to take this guy and make him a viable candidate because they are so desperate for some type of leadership. Host i will leave it there, thomas. I will show the news of the new york city mayors race in just a little bit. The caller mentioned the patriot act, which is what established the fisa court, and a little bit about that. Increased surveillance against terrorism related crimes, allow for roving wiretaps of suspected terrorists and give Law Enforcement more time to conduct investigations and faster act says to Business Records in terrorism cases. I little bit more and the specific sections. A little bit more and the specific sections. Allows information to be shared with intelligence agencies. Section 206 allows the fisa roving wiretap wire taps and section 213 allows for sneak and peek search warrant. And little bit more information put into patriot act law after 9 11 and has continually been reauthorized. We will keep taking your phone calls here. An amendment in the house ,ffered by justin amash republican of michigan, to curtail the nsa Data Collection. But first, some other news. The front page of the Arizona Republic has this story host that in the front page of the Arizona Republic this morning. And the Atlanta Journal constitution reporting their request to the find michelle as shepolitical persona made formal entry into the senate race. Host you can read that there if you are interested. The front page of the boston globe, talking about the rate,oan wrote would tie the rate to the treasury bonds. Here is the boston globe. Host that in the boston globe this morning. You moreeep giving headlines this morning as we continue the first 45 minutes. We want your take on an amendment and the house that would limit the nsas ability to collect your phone data. Are under investigation, the amendment says only funding for david collection if you are under investigation only funding for Data Collection if you are under investigation. If you are not, they will not be allowed to collect your data. The public and caller, go ahead. Time to say enough is too much. Amash. Ss senator wyden the Fourth Amendment says the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and a set against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated. And no one shall issue without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized. So, i ask everyone out there who is listening, what is the probable cause to search and seize the phone numbers, times, and durations of billions of phone calls and emails on all of us each day, everyday . And president obama and congress as a whole ignore the Fourth Amendment . Pass the amendment and curtail the nsas the attempt to collect phone data. Host it sounds like you are following this very closely. Caller i am. Host are you on Justin Amashs Facebook Page or follow him on twitter . Have you been following his efforts . I follow it in the alternative media because you do not get as much of the mainstream media. I am not on facebook because i do not want to be tracked. Host the morning briefing, by the way, that came out this morning at 6 45 a. M. Says this about the amendment. Host tune in to our coverage are on when the house comes into session. Justin amash has been tweeting a lot. Monday night when he testified before the rules committee, it is reported he threatened the gop leaders he would take down the rule for the pentagon bill unless they allow for a vote on his amendments. Here is his tweet from last aght when is the last time president put out an emergency statement against an amendment . The washington elites fear liberty, they fear you. Nancy from austin, texas. Independent color. Caller i am very much in support of this amendment. We talk about, we have been fighting all of these wars to protect the freedoms, but we let these freedoms disappear right under our noses and we do not seem to care. The very things that made our country once so great. If people dont want this, they need to call their congressmen and ask them to support Justin Amashs amendment. The short quote from Dwight Eisenhower if you want total security, go to prison. You are fed, clothed, and given medical care. The only thing missing is freedom. Host orange grove, california. Democratic are caller. Carlos, youre on the air. Caller yes . Host please, go ahead. I will move on. Caller people who disagree with they do not know how critical the National Security agency is to the security of the United States. Host why do you say that . Of people are just fearful. Theylly dont know think they are just spying on them, just collecting work, putting in overtime they are not listening to those kind of things. Things they are listening to, anything that has to do with the security, you know what i mean . Of the United States. And things like that. Nobody is going to be listening to their calls. Machines like, for people who want to use codes , and they go to certain machines. They dont have 20 billion people listening to 20 billion phone conversations. Texas,erbert from republican caller. Nsaer my comment on this stuff, if the nsa is collecting all of our data and we are giving away our Fourth Amendment rights, why is that they cant catch all of the drug dealers, all of the people who are in criminal positions in our United States . Human trafficking. Prostitution. Drugs. If they so good at collecting all of that, i really dont get i really dont have a problem giving up that Fourth Amendment right if they can catch some other people other than the terrorists. What are they doing . Are they just pinpointing terrorists . That is not correct. I need to go after every criminal in the United States of america. Thats all i have to say. Thank you. Host about todays debate, which is what we are expecting on the house floor today over Justin Amashs amendment. Politico reported this as roved permits hip host so, when the house takes up the pentagon budget bill, there will be a debate not just on the nsa amendment we are getting your take on today but also amendment on egypt and syria. This is what politico says about theory. As much as syria is a new tlefront host so, debate on this pentagon budget not only includes this nsa provision but syria, afghanistan funding, etc. If you are interested, tune into cspan at 10 00 a. M. When they come into session. President obama is hitting the road to talk about the economy. We will be covering his speech at knox college at 12 50 p. M. Eastern time. If you arespan 3 interested. Here are some news reports about his speech and his strategy here. Here is the Baltimore Sun host that is what the Baltimore Sun says about the president s speech. The Washington Times says host some papers noting the president s economic speeches, as his Approval Ratings have come as his Approval Ratings have sunk lower. It matches that of george w. Bush at this stage in his second term while bill clintons approval at this stage in the second term stood at 50 six percent. We will be covering president obamas speech at knox college in illinois on cspan 3 at 12 this 12 50 a. M. Today 12 50 p. M. Today. Getting your take on an effort by justin amash and others about the bipartisan proposal to block nsa Data Collection. An amendment that is expected to come to a vote today and the house. Murfreesboro, tennessee. Independent caller. Caller however they going to pay for the nsa . 18 trillion in debt. There is no way we can. It basically comes down to that. You cant pay anything if you dont have anything. Host so, what do you mean . We cant afford the nsa Data Collection . Caller no way we can afford it. Anybody in the United States at all, period. Premature. In texas,le democratic color. Caller the only thing i really want to call mainly about is i kind of dont agree with it. The reason being one, everybody keeps going back to their constitutional rights. First off, when the constitution was written, we were not having they were not worried about terrorists coming over and suicide bombings and stuff like that. With all of the cuts that have been happening, especially to the military, you are downgrading your prevention from the attack over there. So, what is going to keep us safe over here . Jersey in 9 11, was very close to a couple of families who lost people. I think most important thing is National Security. Just as long as the information collected is used properly for terrorism an

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