Us journal cspan. Org. We want to show you what the speaker of the house had to say yesterday talking to reporters about the options that republicans have on immigration. Host . Host this is a serious breach of constitution, to our system of government. Frankly, we have limited options, limited abilities to deal with it directly. But thats why we are continuing to talk to our members. We have not made decisions about how we are going to proceed. Host speaker of the house speaking about the occasions they have. Joining us is mike willis, a staff writer with the hill newspaper. Mike, what is the plan right now . Caller he said he hasnt decided on anything concrete. The thing they are leaning towards is a twostep process, and it would be two separate bills. The first would address the immigration executive order directly. This is a conservative bill that would basically say it could exempt people from deportation. Host thats a symbolic measure because the senate is controlled by the democrats and harry reid said he is not going bring it up. Even the sponsor acknowledges that wouldnt go anywhere. The idea is that it would allow conservatives to vent. They could push back against obamas executive order and wouldnt get in the way of the funding battle. The second part host before you go on, when would that happen . When would that vote happen . Caller as early as thursday, tomorrow. Again, they havent designcided whether or not that would come up for a vote. Host this one, as you said, largest because Senate Democrats are not going to take it to the floor. What follows after that . Caller after that, you go to the spending bill. Of course, there are many conservatives who want to fight the immigration order in the funding bill this month. Host thats something that boehner does not want to do. Host thats the thing that could really pose a threat to the to government funding and could set up a sdhount, which issing exactly what they do not want. It hurt them politically last year and they dont want to do that again. Particularly after an enormous election victory in november. So they set up what they would do is fund 11 Appropriations Bills for a year through september of next year. And then they would have a separate measure, a separate sliver that would Fund Department of Homeland Security only until sometime in march. What that would do, it would set up the funding fight on the immigration issue when republicans would come back with control of the senate and more seats in the house. Of course, the department of Homeland Security is the agency that would oversee the executive order changes. Host mike willis action to bedeler, what republicans would be voting for in the house is to fund the president s executive, but only until march, and then they would take it up again . Caller thats it. And you bring up a good point because there are a lot of conservatives. I say a lot. There are at least a dozen conservatives who yesterday said, there is no way we are going to vote for something that they consider unconstitutional even for a day, let alone for three months. So there is some opposition to obtains plan. We just dont know how large it is. Host thats something that boehner, the Republican Leaders are doing right now is counting votes, trying to see if they are going to need democratic votes which action, of course, they dont want in this case. Host and could they get them . Guest thats unclear. Nancy pelosi said last week, here . Put out a statement and said we are not going to play this shutdown game. She called it a National Security threat. If you only wanted to fund the department of homeland ut security, its a threat to National Security. She didnt say no. She is not on the record say that but all signs are she opposes it. Steny hoyer said that he is up in the air, that he wont say until he sees the bill. He left himself wide open. Senator harry reid surprised a lot of people and came out and said, i could do that. I can vote for that bill. I think that that makes progress. A big accomplish is what he called it. So, if it gets over to the senate in that form, the idea is that it would probably pass. The question is would boehner need the democratic votes in the house . And if he does, would nancy pelosi supply them . Host the up in the air question. Host so then, what happens . That gets them that brings the gavel down on the 113th congress. And then what happens next . Guest then they come back and the republicans have much more power in the next congress, they can push back against the immigration order, not only in the funding bill coming up in march, but there is also a push to expand the house lawsuit against the white house. Right now, its focused on obamacare but they want to expand it to immigration. They want to take the executive order to the courts. You know, there is a big question about whether the bhs which overseas the changes to the executive order but is an agency thats funded by appropriations. But the little sliver of agencies that would implement the executive order changes is funded by fees from immigration applicants. So there is a big question about whether even through the power of the purse they would have any chance of curtailing the executive changes because congress doesnt control that little sliver agency directly. A lot of questions in the air, a lot of legal scholars are weighing in, and a lot of disagreement there about what boehner can do, what power he can do. He said host himself, our options are limited. You know, they are scratching their heads about this thing, and it may be what they have to do is legislate. Maybe what they have to do is come back and move Immigration Reform which actually, Mitch Mcconnell said yesterday he is interested in doing. Host mike willis with tthe hill, we appreciate it. What are your shots on no shutdown on over immigration . And the house leadership coming up with a twopart plan. The first would be to vote as early as tomorrow on the house floor on a largely symbolic bill that would say that the president s executive action is unconstitutional, and then the second part would be to go ahead and fund the government, most of the government, through september of 2015 but not the Homeland Security department, and the president s executive action. They would still fund it but only until about mid march. Vivian in queen city, texas, a democratic caller, vivian, you are up first. Go ahead. Caller hi. I am calling because i heard the gentleman talking about no shutdown. I think that that is great that the republicans have coughed up enough money by shutting the down the government. I am in ted cruzs part of the country, part of the state. I do not like what he is doing. I do not like what the texas government is doing. As far as the republicans, weve got most republicans in texas. They have ruined our government. They have divided it. We need to get together. The only way anybody can take advantage of you outside of your country is if you are divided, and we are so divided right now, and its basically because of the republicans, and its basically because of race, because the president is black, they will not fund anything. They will not try to do anything that will make him look good. Host okay. Vivians argue this is a matter of the constitution and they feel what the president has done violates that. Jay, in southernerton, pennsylvania, a republican. What do you think . Caller hello, gretta. I wanted to say that i saw something in the local paper in bucks counts e, pennsylvania that remilded me of something. President s have acted alone before. In 1916, Woodrow Wilson was told about some blood shed on the southern border and sent 5,000 troops to secure the southern border and 7th jalvary remained on the border securing every square inch. Ineisenhower had a joint force that removed tens of thousands of illegal aliens by force in 1953 to the americans peoples, you know, applause. They liked ike. I wish we would frank this environmentally. We have 320 Million People here okay. Through legal and ilLegal Immigration and chain migration, we will have a nation of about 4160 Million People by 2050 or 2060. And democrats talk about overcrowded schools. You talk about global warming. You talk about clean water and open space. You are kind of schizophrenic when it comes to this issue. At least the Republican Party is trying to stop this and return to insanity of asimilation. We need a halt on all migration. We need to reverse legal migration back to about 150,000 people a year for the next 40 years. Host do you agree with the Republican Leadership and the house . In order to avoid any sort of Government Shutdown, they have decided to go ahead and fund the president s executive action but only in the shortterm, for three months and then hell return to it in march. Do you think thats a good strategy . Caller no. I dont think so. Neocons. George bush was no better than barack obama. They have fallen into the idea that you have to accept multilingualism. Somebody should have the courage to articulate that every single group has had halts on their migration to assimilate them. There is no pour weekan caucus. Greta, you may be german like me. There is no german caucus. There is no italian caucus. There is no irish voting blocks anymore. Hispanics have to play their part, asimlay late and its a 2way street. Host jack, i will leave it there. The daily caller has this headline, boehner retreats on amnesty. Host thats what they are calling this plan that the speaker of the house unveiled yesterday after huddling behind closed doors with rank and file. Politico this morning has this headline pelosi bailout is the question. House g. O. P. S deal to keep the government open may fall apart without democratic votes. T the hill newspaper as we told you reporting that the leader of the democrats and the senate, senator harry reid backed this plan by the speaker in order to avoid a Government Shutdown. So, he said, okay. If you are going to fund Homeland Security in the shortterm, thats that they would be open to that over on the senate side. Bill in springdale arkansas, independent caller. Hi, bill. Caller good morning. Host what do you think of this . Caller i think the same thing about all of it. I dont think we are being represented in washington. And the reason we are not being represe representative. And you have had some alleged representatives here the people in the country seem to act like they want to laugh at them. They dont have to represent you because you are just a person with a Social Security number. If you have a Social Security numb number, you are not a free person and you are obliged to the government. You are telling the government you cantal take care of yourself when you are older. You stop being a state citizen. You become award of the federal government. Host ken in tacoma, washington, democratic caller. What do you think about this plan in the from the House Republicans . Caller the thing it seems to me is that we have we had a reporter taking calls and he mentioned that there were about a dozen. He said conservatives that were adamantly against supporting this because they felt that it went against the constitution. Its Homeland Security. I believe that this just demonstrates a political play. I think that doing that is justno not supporting whats best for this country. And that has me concerned. Host okay. What do you mean . Because putting the country at risk by not having a yearlong funding for Homeland Security . Caller exactly. I mean they have a number of departments that, you know, that if they want to do this, they cannot supporting fundingwise but they have chosen Homeland Security because its tied in to the immigration problem thats being addressed here this is to me an area that just shouldnt be tampered with in my opinion. I dont know exactly what all would come out of that, but it will only be supported until march and then its just going to be debate over if i can have my way from the left versus if i can have my way from the right. And its all coming at the cost of Homeland Security. And Homeland Security doesnt just encompass the immigration problem but it encompasses a wide variety of things, all of which is very important to the citizens of this country. Host ken, we will take a listen to jeh johnson had to say. He brought up this very issue that is in judgment a very bad idea for Homeland Security, because during that period of a cr, we cannot engage in new starts. Weve got some Homeland Security priorities that need to be funded now. For example, we are back in a president ial election cycle. I cannot higher new secret Service Agents until i get an appropriations bill passed by this congress. Not another cr for a couple of months. I cannot continue to fund our enhanced detention capability in texas with another cr that gets me to march. I need the help of congress to support and build upon Border Security, which i believe all of you support. So, i am urging that we act on our current appropriations request now for the for the purpose and for the sake of Border Security and Homeland Security. Host the secretary of Homeland Security yesterday on capitol hill. If you missed it, go to cspan. Org. Talking there about the risk of not giving his Agency Funding through the entire year of 2015. On capitol hill, geoff sessions who could be the incoming chairman of the Senate Budget committee tweeted this out that the current house plan does not fulfill promise to voters on executive amnesty. He is not backing what house Republican Leaders would like to do over immigration. John fleming, another republican saying we cannot give Senate Democrats a pass on executive amnesty and, also, steve king who was on our show yesterday, republican of iowa, hes sweeting at jake sherman, the politico reporter, that i will vote no on any appropriations bill that includes dhs funding but fails to strip money from obamas amnesty. Apparently politico him misquoted. Stenningny hoy year said i told press i will continue to urge g. O. P. Leaders to pass an omnibus that funds the entire government so we can maintain confidence our economy. Host and it cost our economy 241 billion. Now hearing talks, they may be back for seconds. Unbelievable. House g. O. P. Leaders saying yesterday they want to avoid a Government Shutdown and so they have come up with a plan that would be first a symbolic vote on president obamas executive action saying that its unconstitutional, wont go anywhere because the Senate Democrats wont bring it up. Second, they will follow that up with a funding bill that will keep the government running and most of its agencies through september of 2013 but a short term bill for the Homeland Security department. So they will Fund President obamas executive action but only in the shortterm and they will revisit it in march. Host thats the plan that they have. They are counting votes right now, and we will see where it all shakes out. Gary in cleveland, ohio, republican. We turn to all of you. What do you think, gary . Host i think that this, first of all, the government sdhount is a misnomer. They are not going to shut the whole government down. The fact that the republicans are to blame for the shutdown last time, didnt they win by a landslide victory four weeks ago . So that i just dont see that even if they do shut it down, so to speak, would harm the Republican Party. Second of all, i am really tired of both parties acting on their own behalf. As far as the immigration is concerned, i think that most of the the immigrants will gobble up a lot of state taxpayers money. They are going to take a lot of state going to get a lot of statewell and medical aid from the states. They are going to gobble up a lot of the jobs in the Service Industry that americans will work at. And i just need our borders to be protected. Host thats all. Host okay. Gabe agree well in buckley, washington, independent. Gabriel, go ahead. Caller yes. I stand behind mr. The president on the immigration. Web having trouble with immigration for the last 30 years. Nobody has done anything about it. Apparently, we have forgotten that the land and everything thats been worked on, from the potatoes to the packing shed did to workers in hotels are all immigrants. Up, i started as a farm worker, myself. I moved to california to get a better job, from 2. Isnt, i went to 25 an hour and 50 an hour and allstar, i think it was the republicans who cut the hours from 40 so they wouldnt have to pay for our insurance. Now, we are suffering ever since then. If you are going to start with our sister country, which is mexico, the United States is going to suffer a lot. Host caller because you are connected to brazil. If you attack mexico, you attack argentina. Host the lil reporting, g. O. P. Lawmakers say there are 12 or 13 members who think impeachment is possible. They said 12 or 14 of his colleagues think it would be possible to i am paetsch the president over his immigration executive order. I have been saying in my district, when you award someone thats committed a crime, you, as that individual, if there is an impeachment was authorized by those who developed the constit