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CSPAN Washington Journal January 15, 2015

Cyber security and heightened security. Our phone lines are open. We are happy to your thoughts on this topic. The numbers are on the screen. You can also catch up with us on social media. A very good thursday morning to you. We begin today with a headline about a 40 planned assault on the United States capitol, this from the Washington Times this morning. An ohio man planted slotted into a tactic capital, saying he wanted to work with islamic state. The fbi and Homeland Security issued a memo notifying lot basement Law Enforcement agencies across the nation about the memo. That story coming during the week british Prime Minister David Cameron is expected at the white house, and in which he is suggesting banning some online messaging apps. Snack chat and whatsapp are in the crosshairs in britain, according snapped chat and whatsapp are in the crosshairs in britain, according to the article. British Prime Minister David Cameron spoke about this yesterday when he was questioned during Prime Ministers questions. Here is a vet a bit of what he had to say. [video clip] crest our First Priority is to keep the country safe. We certainly dont do that by trashing our own liberties and traditions, but i believe when it comes to this issue of having proper surveillance on communications of essential terrace, of until now, this parliament and British Government has taken a very clear view. Whether it has been about six telephone two medications or mobile telephone communications, we have always believed that it should be possible to look at someones communications to try to stop a terrorist outrage. And the decision i think we have to take is, are we prepared to allow the future as technology develops, safe spaces for terrorists to communicate . No we are not content for that to happen and as a result, we should look to legislate accordingly. Host as we said, british from mr. David cameron taking that message to the white house today. Heres the front page of the guardian newspaper. The story noting that David Cameron will urge barack obama to pressure internet giants such as twitter and facebook to do more and cooperate with britains intelligence agencies as they seek to track the online activities of islamist extremists. This brings up the question for our viewers this morning that we are asking would you be ok giving up more Online Privacy for Greater National security whether it is this effort that David Cameron is talking about or other u. S. Agencies . Especially in the wake of the Edward Snowden disclosures. We would like your thoughts on this topic. Good morning, you are up on the washington journal. Caller how do you define National Security . National security for one country might be another security concern for someone else. We debate political views online without any limit. And if you tell me that i should have to use words not to Say Something to somebody else, then policing this is impossible. To me, the online issue, it should be as free as anybody else. The question now is this is an international issue. Nondemocratic countries are stifling this online, they even cut the line. The problem is that maybe you are helping tyrants to subjugate their own people. Host let me ask you this. When you communicate online, do you have any expectation for privacy . Caller for me, whatever we do online is our affair. We can talk stop we can discuss. We can talk. We can discuss. Terrorism now is corrupting everything. Find some way to find the terrorists but do not say that we should not say this or that. It is undemocratic and it will not solve any problem. Host Edwin Christian right in on our twitter page that the nsa has already disclosed that we have no privacy online. They follow everything we do. And asking, what is left to give up . David camerons remarks have earned some pushback from privacy groups this week already, and in a statement from National Privacy spokesman mike rizzoli in response to David Camerons comments, he says this. Some pushback from privacy groups happening, and coming during the same week in which president obama has spent several days unveiling some new Cyber Security proposals. This according to the guardian as well. The measures come amid warning from privacy campaigners about unnecessary broad legal immunity that would put personal information at risk in the wake of the attacks on sony pictures. Just one day after the pentagons own twitter account was compromised we will get into the specifics of the proposals that president obama put forth in our next segment of the washington journal. We will be talking more about those Cyber Security proposals and breaking them down with a former white house Cyber Security at advisor. But this question for the next 45 minutes, would you give up more Online Privacy for security . Jesse, good morning. Caller yes, this is jesse. We give a lot of other president s the opportunity to protect america. There are too many cells working in this country. We need to have that. We have taken everything away from this president to protect america, saying we want our privacy. But if something happens, we will blame him. We need to have the organization and the funds to protect america. Just like when they had that disease from africa. Host you are talking about ebola there. But in general, you dont see much cooperation from this congress in terms of helping the president . Caller you got it, baby. We will have to help our own selves. You do dirty to one people, its going to happen to you. Im looking at your station and i see so much evil against this president. We all better get on our knees and pray. Host all right, jesse, weve got your point. On this issue of what congress can do, there is a column in the wall street journal by the former speaker of the house, new english. Newt gingrich. Some topics include if you want to read more from former speaker of the house, newt gingrich, and why on why we are losing to radical islam this column in the wall street journal. Frank is up next. Good morning. Caller the internet is a free thing and is great that we have it. Everyone is going to do something. If they want to do something that, theres not much you will be able to do. If they want to do something bad, theres not much you will be able to do. I dont want to give up anything for National Security. They should be over there controlling these people and then putting up the firewalls, like everybody else does. They shouldnt be on facebook. They should not be anywhere near social media. If there is going to be social media with them people over there coming over to us and saying that we do things and they do things, its free. If we get hacked, put a firewall up. Learn how to do it. It is simple. Its not hard. Nobody should be able to cry about this. Just get it done. Host the same question i asked earlier, if you have any expectation of privacy when you go online these days . Caller the way you use privacy when you go online, do not usually a card that has do with your bank account. That is what you need to do. And always use a prepaid card and you will be fine. Its that simple. Host a recent poll from Pew Research Center looks at Cyber Security in the post Edward Snowden area era. 80 of adults agree or strongly agree that america should be concerned about the governments mom wanting monitoring. If you want to read more on the pew report, which specifically looks into different kind of medication that people feel is more or less secure, that is the Pew Research Center. We are taking your calls this morning. Would you give up more of your Online Privacy in the name of Greater National security . Bill from Corpus Christi texas good morning. Caller good morning, sir. I think Benjamin Franklin said it best. He would give up freedom he who would give up freedom for security will soon realize he has neither. The way we are creating capitalism is creating more enemies than we might be able to handle. Host a larger question from bill there in Corpus Christie. Steve is next on the line for republicans from kentucky. Caller good morning. Bill just kind of made my point for me, but i will go ahead and reiterate. It cannot be said too much. Benjamin friedman said, those who would surrender essential Benjamin Franklin said those who would surrender essential liberty for security will get neither. Host how did the Edward Snowden revelations change your Online Habits and how you think about government monitoring and Online Security . Caller im not even online. Ive never even invested in a computer. Snowden, well, snowden should never be allowed back in this country in my opinion. Unless its to go to jail. But thats all i got to say. Host before you go, you say youre not online. Would you be ok with these companies who do use social media turning over information to the government in the name of security ipo i think we lost in the name of security . I think we lost the. And on the twitter page, how much online quest how much Online Privacy would you have to get back to feel comfortable . And on the line for independent andy, good morning. Caller good morning. I would like to say i think president obama is out of control. Everything we see and do is being watched already. I believe the right is already taken. Its just another way of influencing the population into, you know, into this whole system. Host andy, what would you Want Congress to do . Do you think this there is any way to reverse this course that we are talking about . Or do you want to see it reversed . Caller i think congress should be fired. I dont think they do any good. They get voted in. If you look at what they make and what they should be making and what the people are making does not make any sense. People are starting out here. Nobody is making money. People are losing their homes. Congress, look at what theyre getting. Theyre getting a raise. Obama makes these laws at the stroke of midnight on new years eve, you know, on holidays, and sneaks in all of these laws. Everyone, they are sneakers. Thats my feeling. Host on twitter how about safe spaces for everyone else to Committee Without you listening . And on our Facebook Page, it is facebook. Com cspan if you want to follow along on the conversation. Bobby right, its the last real bastion of freedom that we have. And brenda says there is no privacy on the net. Mark, good morning. Caller good morning. One of your questions is, do you have an expectation of privacy the online . I worked as an attorney and we do virtually all of our communications by email these days. Yes, i do have an expectation of privacy. My communications with my clients and with governmental agencies are, indeed supposed to become potential. And i believe there is a long line i have not looked it up, but i believe there is a long lannett Supreme Court cases going on all the way back to the start of the country a long line of Supreme Court cases going back to the start of the country that people have the right to a reasonable amount of privacy in their communications. And i would like to add to that so far as im concerned these things that are cited as supportive of a loss of privacy are the fault of people who get hacked. Sony, they obviously did not happen of firewalls, as the earlier generals gentlemen said. They did not happen of security there. The guys in paris, apparently they had been the french government had been flagged to their terrorist activities or their sympathies for islamist radicals and whatnot for years and years, but they did not follow through. And eric snowden host that is what i want to ask you about, how have your opinions change since Edward Snowden . Are you confident in the fisa court, the warrants that are needed for certain specific searches . Caller i was about to touch on eric snowden. I have no confidence in the fight the courts. I had i do not practice in that area, but i think there has only been one case over the years were the fisa court actually turned down a request for a search warrant. And i believe they went back and modified the request and they ended up getting it anyway. At the end of the day, i dont think there is any privacy. Frankly, i consider eric snowden to be a hero, because he alerted the people of this country to the fact that the government is seeking this information. Host you expect there to be privacy in your communications but it doesnt sound like you have a lot of confidence that there is. Caller well, yeah, theres the dilemma indeed, right . My hope is that ultimately there would be a Supreme Court case that comes down and restricts the government. I think at the end of the day if you were to ask the spy agencies, well, how much ability to poke around in peoples businesses would you like, they are going to say they want everything. They will want to do whatever they possibly can to make life easier for them. You know, why not put portable video cameras in the corners of everyones rooms in their houses . We might be able to find every single terrorist than if we start watching. Host when David Cameron starts talking about Banning Services like chat and whatsapp if they dont open up to british the dirty Services British security services, are you surprised . Caller im certainly not the price. That is what the agencies will want. Im certainly not surprised. That is what the agencies will want. The gentleman before me use the often use c quote from Benjamin Franklin. At the end of the day the terrorist attacks that we are talking about here, either the hacking of the sony or the terrorists situation or whatever, these are things that could have been you know, had the government incompetent in doing had the government been competent in doing what it should have been doing in the first place they could have prevented. There is no need to take away the freedoms of every citizen of the country. Im troubled by the fact that they say, we are going to check the emails of suspected islamic terrorists, or just terrorists leave out the islamic part. Where is that line drawn . Potentially everyone in the world is a terrorist. Host we appreciate the call from st. Paul, minnesota. You said you have expectation for security mostly in your communications with clients as a lawyer. You say you do a lot with email. From that pew center report, it notes the percentage of adults who feel varying degrees of security when sharing private information with another trusted person or organization 19 of adults say they feel very secure sharing that information over a landline with 51 saying they feel somewhat secure. When it comes to the cell phone, that drops to 43 saying they feel somewhat secure and 9 feeling very secure. Sending Text Messages drops lower than that. Email, 35 feel somewhat secure and 5 feeling very secure. That is the pew center report if you want to read more on Public Perceptions of privacy and security in the post snowden era. That is the title of the report. Joey new york on the line for independents. Good morning. Caller good morning. I love that guy from minnesota. A great call. You always get calls, but never asked the right question. Host what is the right question . Go ahead. Caller the right question is, who could take away the things you hold most dear, your constitutional rights, your civil liberties, who do you fear most could take them away . A few wackos running around out there, or this government. Eric snowden told the truth and hes hiding out in moscow so they dont kill him. The head of the nsa committed perjury and he still head of the nsa. He hasnt been arrested or charged with perjury. Who do you fear most to take away your rights . A couple of wacko terrorists, or this allconsuming government . Host we will let viewers and to that question, too, if they want to call in over the next 15 or 20 minutes while we have open phones. The question we started with would you give up more Online Privacy for Greater National security . But im happy to talk about his many different aspects of this topic as you want. Ring to the Washington Times lead Editorial Board today, they say that stopping jihad in america begins with more Border Security in the wake of the paris attacks that killed 17 men and women last week stop last week. If you want to read more from the Editorial Board of the Washington Times that is in todays paper on the subject of border control. And simply immigration policy, as we noted on our show, yesterday there was that vote in the house to block the president s executive orders on im

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