But first, 2016 president ial politics. We want to get your doubts on the leading republican contender, the nonpolitician. What is the appeal of the out cider. Sanders, the nona establishment outsider, why is he leading . Republicans, 202 7488000. Independence, 202 7488002. Front page of the New York Times this morning as a story about poll. Test cbs more in the gop are seeing trump as a winner. Republicans think ronald trump has the best chance of winning the 2016 president ial election as their nominee as confidence fades in traditional politicians like scott walker. The billionaire businessman appears to be gaining acceptance as a possible nominee. The poll found 39 of republican primary and caucus voters viewed mr. Trump as their best chance of winning the presidency, compared with 27 in august. 26 in august. Ben carson another republican with no history in the republican establishment is gaining some board. He is running nearly even with mr. Trump. Mr. Carson is a retired neurosurgeon with a conservative message. He had a 6 early last month praisedidely performance in the first republican debate. What is the appeal to outsiders to you . We want to get your thoughts. Democrats, 202 7488000. Republicans 202 7488001. Independence, 202 7488002. Donald trump talk to the moderator about what makes them different from typical politicians. [video clip] mr. Trump no politicians in my theion, they talk about moon, the sun, the sun will rise, they want jobs. No politician will get this country. I have been dealing with politicians all my life. If you cannot win and make a lot of money with politicians you are not a good. I have been dealing with them, and no one has that with them better. I know them from the other side. Millionsee bush as 100 and hillary as 150 million, those people are controlled by the people that gave them money. They are lobbyists, special interests, and donors. I will tell you that they are controlled. When bush has to make a decision, and can you imagine this guy negotiating against china . We have no chance. Whod you rather i have negotiating against china, trump or bush . Host he echoed that message in a tweet a few days ago saying my opponents big bosses, lobbyists , and donors are trying to do damage to him. They will fail. Money down the drain. Yesterday a new ad was announced against donald trump. 1 million to target the in iowaire and voters against the billionaire. They convinced donors to attack donald trump, though many of the donors thought it could backfire. They put out this ad, take a look. [video clip] which president ial candidate supports high taxes, tax care, and the wall street bailout . It is donald trump. Nts us to think that he is mr. Tell it like it is, but he has a message that is liberal. Trump, just another politician. 1 million ad bike club for growth in the Washington Post they note that some of the gop donors were skeptical of the plan fearing that it could fuel trumps outsider appeal. He responded on twitter saying that club for growth asked me for 1 million, i said no. Now he is falsely saying that i will raise taxes and lower bigleague with a middle class. He says my plan will lower taxes. Willfor growth says i raise taxes, just another lie. We are getting your thoughts on the appeal of the outside candidates. Bill in south carolina, republican, you are first. Caller what we are seeing is the perfect evidence of why trump has the appeal. It is the first candidate, democrat or republican, whether you like trump or not, that is pushing back against the establishment and the status quo in washington that has got us into this terrible situation in the country. Not only that, trump is basically coming back basically, he is the spokesman for the silenced majority. We have then experiencing over the last 100 years the cultural marxism, which has everyone scared to , and all of the other silencing of peoples Constitutional Rights woman just to go along with popular Constitutional Rights, just to opinion. With popular it is the decline and everyone that has been trying to be nice hasout saying anything now a spokesman. I would tell the democrats and the republican establishment, get your resume published and get ready to go back to the private industry. Trump is coming. He is not my favorite candidate by any means, way, shape, or form. With trump carrying a baseball bat to the establishment, i will send him my donation, because i am tired of this stuff just like other americans are. Host what is it about the establishment . What do you dislike about washington and the establishment . Caller the establishment is pretty much getting into the country club. Whether it is getting into the Actual Country Club or influencing the country club through the donor and lobbyist class, the country club is a locked system. People need to get it back into their heads that we are the bosses. The legitimate government of the United States was rounded on the power of the people giving just enough to legislators to do the things we cannot do ourselves. We have lost sight of that. Americans, being hard to agitate or infuriate, we have sat back and allowed this to permeate. I think a lot of people are tired of it. We want the rule of law enforced, we want our standing in the world to be respect it, and we are not a marxistsocialist experiment that has failed with 100 Million People dead in the last century. We are the experiment that is a success. Youre calling from south carolina, one of the early primary states, why not your own senator, Lindsey Graham . Aller i would have a wet rag andsey graham balances on piece of barbed wire when it comes to wanting to be a moderate republican. Americans are sick of the armed wire standards. They want someone who gets off of the fence and takes a position, and holds their theiron, and does not put fingers in the air waiting to see which side he can fall on to have the least amount of political blowback. Tot we will leave it there get in more voices. Phil mattingly tweets another w him you are New Hampshire a wmur New Hampshire poll. Trump at 22 . Carson, 18 . Fiorina, 11 . Jeb bush, 9 . John kasich, 9 . The others are trailing behind. Mark, good morning. Tell us the appeal of the outside candidates. Caller what i find ironic is the way that the established media they act like they are so surprised. Establishment the. They were the first to feel the wrath of this antiestablishment movement. Host the media . Aller yeah the internet has taken over the news media. Now they sound like, we cannot believe the appeal of mr. Trump, an outsider. They were the first ones to get gored. Present company excluded. Host thank you. Kevin in new york. Love this show, and i love watching you every morning. I am all for the outside candidates, because for too many years these politicians have been coming with the same thing every two years or four years. I know they have to work within the system, but they need to say that. We need to work within the system, stopped just giving us what they think we want to hear not what we want to hear. Trump, fiorina, and a ben carson are telling people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear. I am all for the outside candidates, i wish we had some on the democratic side. Hillary clinton and Bernie Sanders are the same old same old. We need new blood. Host you do not see Bernie Sanders as an outsider . Caller he has been in congress for decades. He has the same ideas he has had for the last two or three decades. It is not like he is a new voice. He is just a new person in the Democratic Party speaking up. Him and Hillary Clinton are not far apart and ideas or policies. Blood, new people, new this is america. We need to get new things going, not the same old things we have been doing with the last 20 years, they are not working. Berniehat about what sanders is saying. He is asking for political revolution. He is talking about universal health care, free college for everyone, loan forgiveness for student debt, income equality. Caller those ideas are great, but we know that his ideas will not go over in america. Free college, i think that is a great idea, at least the first 2 years, but he was going to pay for that for every teenager in america . Free health care should be expanded, that he wants to spend three trailer dollars in eight years. 3 trillion, and eight years. That is never going to happen. And the Washington Post august had this piece on the peel of the outsiders. The candidacies of donald trump is fueled bynders anger and the desire for authenticity and political leaders. Across the ideological spectrum candidates are gaining traction by separating themselves from the system that Many Americans view as rigged against them. Is that the appeal . For those of you who like the outsiders in the president ial races, is that the appeal . Steve, good morning. Caller that is a lot of the. Ppeal todays politicians, especially the career politicians, that was never set up to make a career out of. They are only supposed to be there for 8 years, and they are trying to pad their pockets. Donald trump has a payroll to come up with every month for the people he has on his budget. The other politicians do not. They are running their mouths, let me give you that and this, let me take money out of the hardworking American People and give it to the people who do not want to work and think they have something coming to them. Ant is why trump has such appeal. They know that he has a paycheck to come up with. He knows you can bring this country back to greatness. Like trump said, in a few years 240ill be like greece, trillion in debt. It is hard to keep track of. Host good morning. Are you for Bernie Sanders, what do you think about the outsiders . Theer i heard a lot of other colors talk about revolutionary ideas and outside candidates. Abouter callers talk revolutionary ideas and outside candidates. Donald trump and Bernie Sanders have run under the radar, not so much donald trump, for years. They have renovated. They have benefited. Ofy have seen the stillness the bush and clinton candidates. They are seeing the opportunity to raise their limelight. As i divisions i see them as the establishment. Host who are you supporting in the democratic primary race . Theer i think i called on wrong line, but im looking at Carly Fiorina, because she has a and she has a good sense of command. We need that in the leadership of this country. Host lets look at what the ben carson said about running as an outsider in this race. [video clip] carson it is a corrupt place. The engine that runs washington, you take a look and your Immediate Response is to shut it back down. [applause] is pretty it horrible. There is a lot of interrelationships and historical things going on. It is amazing to me the relationships that exist between different people. Some have said to me, you could not function in that environment, because you do not know all of the intricacies of washington, d. C. I will tell you what i know. I know the constitution of the United States and how things are supposed to work. [applause] carson what i would do is, obviously, get people who do understand all of that garbage so that they can help disassemble it. I spent decades in the private sector and corporate america, sitting on boards, national and international corporations, and finding out and figuring out and learning how things that work efficiently work. The United States government is not one of those things. We can change that, and we can make it run like a business. That is important. The American People deserve to have their money spent the right way. Carson, who is on the heels of donald trump in some of the polls. He was at a recent event talking about how he will take on washington as an outsider. Is it the way they talk, the words they use, that appeals to you . And independent from tennessee, you are next. Caller good morning. Host good morning. You are on the air. Go ahead. Caller ok. I would like to thank cspan for being on, and tell people they need to watch cspan to see who they are voting for and what their ideas are. I will vote for who i think is the best. It is time we got some of the people in washington, it is time we got new ones in there. I have not made up my mind to devote for, but i am watching closely. We need new congress and senators in there. They are the ones that can run this country. The president is not the top man. It is time the president we have now finds out that he does not run everything. Host would you go to vote in november . Are you going to be voting all of the incumbents out in congress . Caller no. We have some that are good. You need to watch cspan. As appalled at the appalled at hearing what some had to say. Isaiah cummings is a joke. Host i dont want to go too far down this road. We will move on. Caller it is me again, sorry. I used to live in chattanooga in the 1990s. Host moving on to gary. Thatr i want to say Bernie Sanders is not talking about an idealistic fantasy that cannot exist. The money is out there. It is in the military. It is in corporations. There is money there to do this work if we have the will to do so. It is not a fantasy. It can be done. If that is what the American People want. The washingtont post Editorial Board say that mr. Sanders generosity, why is progressive to shower benefits on the welltodo . Why is it beneficial to give funds from Higher Education to the wealthy, eliminating College Tuition makes it free for everyone leaving less of the 47 billion to help low income people who struggle to pay for college and needs. Drastically reduce the rate of Student Loans and refinancing existing loans on similar generous terms. Plenty of College Graduates do not need help with their loans. Mr. Sanders identifies challenges, and we support higher taxes to meet some, but the political barriers for modest spending is formidable. A Progressive Agenda would seek barriers, nothose create in title months for the upper middle class. A republican, you are on the air. Entitlements for the upper middle class. A republican, you are on the air. What is the appeal . Owns them. One traditional republicans and democrats, the party helps them get elected in their state. They are with the party. In the general election, the primaries, it is the special Interest Rates, the big they own the candidates. Theyre not free to do with they want to to do or what they think is best for the country. The outsiders are owned by no one, especially trump who is financing his own campaign. I was not a huge supporter of donald trump, i thought he was a joke. Appeal, that i see his and it is appeal that resonates to everyone in the country, we need someone in there that is not controlled. In my opinion, and for many years, it has been a twoparty system masquerading as a oneparty system. When they get in there they do the same thing. Says the Washington Post it is also the way donald trump talks. Donald trump is speaking a different language. Everyone senses that trump does not speak like other politicians. Is it just the swagger, the clipped accent, the dismissive tone . Engagedems emotionally in a way his competitors are not. He is annoyed and exasperated that rings are not the way they should be yet somehow good humored about it. Look at the shape of his sentences. They do not work the way modern political rhetoric does, they work like punchlines. They are short with the most important words at the end. That speech is rare among politicians, not just because showmanship,mps but because they are careful with their language. They are careful about the ways that they speak may be interrupted or misinterpreted. Important situations where a lot depends on what they say and do not say, their language takes on 2 peculiar characteristics. Abstraction, they speak less about particulars and more about legislation and the international community. Second, more subordinate clauses and subordinate phrases. And soct, in general, on. It is the language you use when you are aware your words may be misinterpreted or used against you. Donald trump does not speak that way. Ron . Did we just talk to you . Lets move on to frank. Caller and this whole thing about the outsiders reminds me network, i am mad as hell and im not going to take it anymore. That is all well and good, but congress is an establishment. Obama tried to get good things past, and the Republican Congress said no. They are representing the minority in this country for years. Until people start voting them out of office and get outsiders in, or people with integrity that care about the country, nothing will change. It is sad and pathetic that people are listening to trump and thinking things will change a few becomes president , it is not going to happen. Host Vice President joe biden decries Donald Trumps sick message about hispanic immigrants. He is saying Donald Trumps language on hispanics is sick. Vice President Joe Biden making those statements. Some questioning whether or not he is taking on donald trump as he eyes a potential president ial bid. Good morning. Tomer people should read bomb. s debt he explains the problem. The ring of power. A few people in washington, you cannot get them out. They are making the decisions. I dont think donald trump can make it, but im or him. The electoral votes from the senators and congressmen put in the president. Missouri isfrom aligned with the largest Tobacco Company in the world. His wife, daughter, and lobbyists. L host are you talking about senator blunt . Caller i did not mention names. Host there is one male senator from m