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CSPAN Washington Journal December 5, 2015

Two thousand one. We want to talk about the change in the nature of the investigation. The gag now looking at it as an act of terrorism. 1 for republicans. 202 7488000 for democrats. For independents, 202 7458002. On social media, you can post your thoughts at cspanwj. At facebook, facebook. Com cspan. Send us an email on this topic as well at journal cspan. Org. Here is how the major papers are taking a look at the announcement by the fbi yesterday. The Washington Post calls the shooting and active terrorism. Journal eet probe focuses on on terror. You will notice, on the front page of the New York Times and put an editorial on this topic, the first since 1920. President obama made comments on this topic. We will hear from that shortly. Again, if you want to call and talk about the change in the investigation, 202 7488001 for republicans. 202 7488000 for democrats. 202 7458002 for independents. The fbi changing the nature of the investigation, looking at it ofa possible act terrorism. It was president obama who used his weekly address to look at larger issues involved. Here is a portion of his statement. [video clip] is entirely possible that radicalized to enact an act of terror. The eiffel and other terrorist groups are actively encouraging people around the world and in our country to commit terrible acts of violence , often times as lone wolf actors. Even as we work to prevent attacks, all of us government, Law Enforcement, communities need to Work Together to prevent people from falling victim to these hateful ideologies. More broadly, this trend reminds us of our obligation to do everything in our power to keep our communities safe. We know that the killers used assault weapons, weapons of war, to kill as many people as they could. Itis a tragic reminder that is way too easy for dangerous people to get their hands on a gun. Today, investigators are searching for answers. Across our country, Law Enforcement officials are tireless, working around the clock, as always, to protect our communities. As president , my highest priority is the safety of our people. This is work that must unite us all as americans, so we do everything in our power to protect our country. That is how we can honor all those lives lost in San Bernardino. We are americans. We will uphold our values. We are strong and resilient, and will not be terrorized. Host the fbi looking at this as a possible act of terrorism. Again, your thoughts on it. 202 7488001, republicans. 202 7488000, democrats. Independents, 202 7458002. We will start off this morning with walt, republican line. The fbi declared it terrorism, president obama was on tv saying it wasnt. What i did find out was interesting. That they cant do nothing to them. The other thing that was interesting, remember that kid wheneverlt the radio they stopped him in school, obama praised the kid and said it was a good trade because he was muslim. People were afraid to say anything because of him. I think the biggest danger to america right now is obama and Loretta Lynch, and the rest of these people. Republicanstacking for praying that is unbelievable in this country. Host as far as the fbi investigation, were you surprised . Caller no. Hey knew they had pipe bombs they knew they had military style equipment and protection. Thats the other thing, obama wants to take this off our police. However lee supposed to handle people like this if they dont have the equipment . It does not surprise me. I looked at this yesterday, and , what het a minute, four, the boston marathon, and this guy. Host lets go next to rob, florida, republican line. Caller good morning. Thank you for cspan. You know, we should have never left iraq a couple of years ago. When isis started to rear its ugly head, we should have hit them hard back then. I want to preface that, as a democrat. I think we need to go back to iraq, and take care of business. Host what do you think of the announcement of a possible active terrorism . Caller i think that of course it is. I think the democrats, Bernie Sanders included need to step up talk. Game, and talk the that is the thing that donald trump really appears to talk and walk, but if you put a piece of chewing gum in his mouth, im afraid he will trip. The democrats need to step up and call this for what it is. Not know why i dont understand why obama doesnt or republicans dont flat out say, outlaw machine guns. I saw a news piece that there is no regulation of bullets. You do not have to be a licensed gun dealer to sell bullets, and you do not need to have a gun. Icense to buy bullets the idea that you can go on one of these websites and by all of that thousands of rounds we do not have simple regulation. It is time we have simple regulation. No machine guns throughout the United States. Host got you. Then yourpiece in times this morning, take a look at the president ial candidates, and how they are responding. Offer moreeemed to muddled response, torn between their instinctive desire for tighter gun regulations, and the need to confront the threat of homegrown islamic terrorism. In sioux city, iowa, Hillary Clinton spoke of not more, but the need to ferret out those on ho are ed therubio mock andcratic candidates president , saying, 48 hours still out there talking about gun control measures, as if somehow, terrorists care about what our gun laws are. , good morning,na republican line. You are next. Caller good morning. This is the mother of all crises that they dont want to let to go to waste. You notice, it was a terrorist acts, but the very first thing that happened was the lets antrol the guns, it is not matter of controlling the guns, but the Second Amendment. If you remember, Loretta Lynch made a speech a muslim activist group, i believe it was thursday night, talking about the hateful speech, and how we need to control that. When you say hateful speech, who decides that . The last caller talked about machine guns. They were not used. Control no gun legislation, ideas, rules that are being suggested that would have anything to do with this. Control,trol, and gun and violating the Second Amendment. It is not about terrorism. That is what they will use. If you notice, we now have the federal government, the controllinghe fbi this investigation. I might point out, we have yet femalethe picture of the half of the duo. I am skeptical of it. I think it is a crisis that the president would use just like what was talked about eight years ago. Ost that was john the female photo being released, attached to several stories. There is the photo from the New York Times, attached to the story that you can read online. Jim in west virginia, democrats line. Caller good morning, pedro. I think it is a real serious thing. I think it will happen probably more often now. I am concerned about it. With im concerned republican callers calling in and saying that our president is a muslim and that we pulled out of iraq too soon. We should not have been in iraq to begin with. That was george bush to put us there. Host what is the best way forward . Caller that is a good question, pedro. Im not really sure what the best way forward is. One thing automatic weapons. I do not think people should own automatic weapons. That should be for the military, Police Officers. They are saying Second Amendment go back to muscat loaders. That is when they wrote it back then. Host there is a picture of the semi automatic weapons used in the shootings in the wall street journal this morning. The story talks about some of the gun laws, and how the shooters got around them. While saying that while californias laws are among some of the most cup located, for instance, California Law bans semi automatic guns with a state law allows semiautomatic automatic guns accessed with a hard mechanisms. All four guns were purchased legally, but alterations were made to two of the weapons, making them unlawful in california. It is a strong law, with a. Eally easy workaround also, the story adds that california has the strictest background checks, going further than federal law, but there are ways to get around it. A person can lend a gun for as long as 30 days without running a background check, and transfers between family members are also exempt from background requirements. Your thoughts on this investigation. The fbi saying they are looking at it as an act of terrorism. Maryland, this is james. Caller im not surprised that they are investigating it as an act of terrorism. Just because of the simple fact that it seems like increasingly in america the definition of terrorism is when a brown person commits a crime. When the Charleston Shooting occurred, they did not call it terrorism. Shooting,d parenthood they did not call it terrorism. Im not trying to play the race card, but when a white person commits crimes, they do not call it terrorism. As far as the whole gun control debate, i think it is silly because of the simple fact that gun control, all that does is fromlawabiding citizens getting guns. Criminals,errorists, they are bad guys. By nature, they will have guns regardless. I think the whole disarming the ,eople makes it sitting ducks essentially. I think of people were able to be armed, they would respond better. Im not trying to sound like an and ra advocate, by think the whole reason the Second Amendment exists is to protect people from day to day threats and from a tyrannical government. Type of attacks, do you think they will happen again in the United States . They have been happening. I think, of course they will happen again. Just me, as a citizen, as an individual, i think i should be responsible saying you do not have a gun because we have police is like saying you should not have a fire acting or sure because we have firemen. It is a tool. I think people should be able to protect themselves. Host by the way, the fbi does have differing definitions of terrorism. If you go to the website, they provide a link of how that is defined. Involves actsrism dangerous to human lives that violate federal or state law. Intimidate or coerce a civilian population. It occurs primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. Again, you can find that at the fbi website. John is up next from pennsylvania. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. The reason im calling is because i am more concerned visas. The hb one b these are people that came in isas. Gh v there is another reason why i am concerned. There is now a huge investigation on someone who visasout more hb one b throughout the world. In turkey, turkey put him on the number one terrorist list. He resides and pennsylvania. The reason i bring this up is because the attorney that was hired was robert amsterdam. The investigation has to do with charter schools. Stop visas altogether . Is that what you are saying . Caller im not saying stop the visas. You have bad people and good people of all races. The problem is i think we are not doing as good of a job some people come in and they become radical, or they are radical, and we not aware of the situation. Host lets hear from amy. Caller hello, thanks for taking my call. Surprised that it was an act of terrorism. Especially when i saw the picture of the phenyl shooter. Shooter. First of all, she is not smiling. Second of all, it looks like she is consumed with hate, i dont know what. It also concerns me that these people came into the country theiry, and obtained weapons legally. When they said that the lady was nursing her child i saw an interview with the sister. I think it was the lady shooter. Leaving a babye that i was nursing, and going off and killing people. There is something wrong with these people. The fact that they had all those bonds, ammunition, all that stuff in their house you do not just have all that stuff ready to go if you are going to go into your workplace because you are upset with them. It does not make any sense. I was not surprised at all when they said it was an act of terrorism. Is amy and virginia. Again, we will continue with calls. The fbi yesterday talking about looking at this shooting in San Bernardino as an act of terrorism. 202 7488001 for republicans. 202 7488000 for democrats. 202 7458002 for independents we heard from the president , talking about this case earlier. The republicans also addressed this issue, specifically focusing on the fisa Waiver Program, which allows some countries to have access. It was Candice Miller of michigan who spoke about this. Here is a bit of her comments from this week. [video clip] topart of this program is make it easier for people from other family countries to come to the United States. You can come here for 90 days without a visa. That means you do not need to do an in person interview at a u. S. Embassy. There are 38 participating countries, and all of them are good friends of america. Countries like britain, france, germany, belgium. That being said, it is no secret that isiss recruiting people from many of these same countries. For instance, the suspected mastermind behind the attacks and paris was a citizen of belgium. The department of Homeland Security checked all these applicants via against our database, but often we do not have all the information we need to identify all possible threats. A prime example. European authorities have been watching him for some time, but never alerted the United States. That is why i am working with my colleagues on a bill to strengthen the security of our program. Er it would allow the department of Homeland Security to suspend the countrys basis participation in the program. The bill would also disqualify anybody who has traveled to five or iraq in the last years from the dissipating in our program. From now on, they will have to get a visa and go through all the additional security steps that it requires. Finally, the bill strengthens our counterterrorism efforts by codifying the practice of collecting more biographical data. Host cspanwj is our twitter handle. T. J. Writing, the president wants to dismantle our citizens, and wants to bring refugees here. Haveh king says, we do not a terrorism problem or Mental Health problem, we have a gun problem. We will hear from tony next. Caller good morning. I find it interesting the you try to define terrorism. Do you have a definition from state terrorism . Host i was just reading off the fbi of how it is defined. Caller that is important, if you try to define state sponsored terrorism. We have a criminal element in our government. Most of the terrorist attacks are staged by the government. The u. S. Government is the seller in armed america. In the world. Every time somebody commits a crime, they start targeting responsible, lawabiding citizens. You have 20 million gun laws, and a criminal will not follow one. Every time a criminal commits a crime, they target responsible lawabiding citizens. Host republican line, go ahead. Hello . From your cave in, pennsylvania . To philip inxt california. Good morning. Caller good morning. Im philip. Im a vegan. Im a veteran i was in morocco when the french there. I think we have opened the can ofworms with the violence the last 13 years in that part of the world. It is open. We will have violence in the street. I was in security and Law Enforcement. So, weve got it. Host what should we do next then . Caller what should we do next . Ourselves, for one thing. We should also try to minimize what we are doing overseas. We are making enemies. Enemies on top of enemies. It is not going to stop. We have a whole different way of thinking. The whole different culture. We seem to be trying to make them americanized. Were not going to be able to do that. It is going to be one group after another resisting, unless they change their beliefs system. We are over there killing people. Killing combatants, which are also killing women and children. We are also making enemies. These enemies are going to strike out. The one thing that is really important is when we went over there in the first place, it was a mistake. You realize how many people died of that mistake. We made a mistake. We had bad intelligence. Host since you come from a security background, what should we do here domestically . Especially in light of what happened in San Bernardino. Caller it will be almost impossible to protect soft targets. The movie theater, the shopping center, the beach. Once this can of worms is opened job tois an absolute big curtail it. You know what i mean . Host lets hear from earl. Caller good morning. Im glad im following that gentleman. It coincides with what im saying. It is never going to stop. Because of the hypocrisy when obama mentioned early in his career that they hold onto the bible and the gun in the other hand, they cried about how unjust that statement was. Trust,of in god we they need to put in gun we trust you. I think i remember jesus saying that those who die by the sword live by the sword will die by the sword. I wonder if the same application applies to the palestinians, and if they had guns, the holocaust they are going through would not have occurred. The hypocrisy is amazing. Host two editorials to show you this morning. Saying, that the eye director said the fbi director more than once that the investigation is in early stages, but he deserves support for speaking frankly about the evidence and dangers. President obamas failure to respond, or seemingly understand thishreat, has allowed evil inspiration to spread as Islamic State claims to be the vanguard of islamist history. That is the wall street journal. If you go to the front page of the gnu at times this morning, they have something to have not had since the 1920s, and that is an editorial, looking at the incident in San Bernardino, and talking about the gun laws attached to it. Host again, the first editorial since about 1920, from the New York Times. Tennessee, independent line, go ahead. Caller you started off with what i consider to be a false premise. You said that the 9

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