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CSPAN Washington Journal December 24, 2016

Criticism by israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu and donald trump who tweeted things of be different in his administration. Were taking your calls on the vote to criticize the expansion of jewish settlements in palestinian territories. Tell us what your views are. Republicans can call 202 7488001. Democrats can call 202 7488000. Independents can call 202 7488002. You can also reach us on social media, on twitter, cspanwj. Cspan. Facebook. Com lets look at what the u. S. Ambassador to the when had to say about yesterdays vote. [video clip] because it are important issues not addressed in this resolution and because the United States does not agree with every word in this text, the United States did not vote in favor of the resolution. But it is because this resolution reflects the facts on and is consistent with u. S. Policy across republican and democratic administrations throughout the history of the state of israel that the United States did not veto it. Yesterdays vote from the Washington Post. It says the Un Security Council on friday passed the resolution demanding that israel cease jewish settlement activity on palestinian territory and the unanimous vote that passed when United States abstained rather than using its veto as it has reliably done in the past. The resolution declares settlements constructed on land, including in east jerusalem, has no legal validity. It said settlements threaten the viability of the two state solution and urges israeli and palestinians to return to negotiations that will lead to independent to two independent nations. More on this from the Obama Administration to abstain from that book continuing from the post. The move the five Donald Trumps edll on thursday thdefi Donald Trumps call on thursday. Point the president elect hammered home about an hour after fridays vote when he tweeted, as to the wh the un, things will be different after january 20. Were taking your call. Republicans can call 202 7488001. Democrats, 202 7488000. Independents, 202 7488002. A little bit more on that issue today from the New York Times. It details the ongoing relationship, which is sometimes ethical between difficult between president obama and president netanyahu, this is a final class in a relationship that never clicked according to the times. Mr. Obamas decision not to block a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning israeli settlement laid bare all the grievances the two men have nursed shortly after they took office in 2009. Mr. Netanyahu, it was the final betrayal by a president it was supposed to be an ally but never really was. For mr. Obama, it was the inevitable result of mr. Netanyahus own stubborn defiance of International Concerns with his policies. The two sides did little to hide their mutual contempt. Mr. Obama would not be retelling the resolution as president s of both parties have done in the past. Theiri officials watched hands of the incumbent and contacted his successor. President elect donald trump probably put out statements calling on mr. Obama to veto the resolution. We had james comic from santa fe, texas on the democratic line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Israel has been going back for years and years. Tried tosidents have get these people to talk. Israelisto me like the i know they want to bring their people into the country. Mexicoseems to me like coming into the United States and people here letting them come in with nothing. They just come in and take our land. Palestinians are right in the way they feel, but the israelis are right on the way they feel, too. Mr. Trump is a fool. He is probably going to get United States with all this nuclear talkie is talking about, and the way he treats people, wee are going to be are going to have problems with this person in office. Host president elect trumps position is the same as has been the position of president s of both parties in recent years on this. Do you think in this case perhaps the Administration May be should have considered that approach rather than abstaining . There has got to be cooler heads on this. Netanyahu and trump all to make ught to make o a good pair. Nobody says no to them. Trump especially. I dont really understand the people that voted for this man. He has got no common sense. Host jim is calling from Fort Lauderdale on the republican line. Caller good morning. As republican, i would like to thank barack obama for this vote because with this vote he pretty much blew up the Democratic Party for who knows how long. Debbie Wasserman Schultz knows it. Has anyone seen the statement she has made . It is really a very violent statement against Barack Obamas decision to do this. I would like to remind everybody of one thing. For years i thought the israelis or the biggest problem with the settlement in that area. That years agoet the israelis gave the gaza palestinians autonomy. And what did they do . As theirted hamas government, and there has not been an election since then. This to me, and it should have been to the whole world, this is a precursor as to what would happen if the israelis settled in the way the rest of the world seems to think they want them to. Two statee the solution a trial run and the palestinians elected terrorists for their government and they continued to blow up israel until they built that great big wall everybody hates. Host what about the idea that can only be one president at a time . Do you think is problematic that mr. Trump is making his views on this in so many other areas so vocal at this time rather than letting the Obama Administration continue until its end . Caller barack obama is a coward. Trump is not a coward. That is really what this points out. Barack obama is over in hawaii and he is saying he doesnt have anything to do with this. He pretty much blew up the chances for a settlement over there. That is really what i see. I dont know what anybody else sees. Barack obama is unable to convince people to his way of thinking. He doesnt want to take the time to do it, so what does he do . He takes out his pen and write all these president ial resolutions that are probably going to be undone. The man is a coward. He was an effective. I am done with him. Host tommy from tennessee of the independent line. What do you think about the vote . I think ituse me is a sad day in america. I think mr. Obama perhaps made his most poignant and most pardonred part in when important the plo and hamas. The plo in my opinion was pardoned for what they had done through the years the people in israel and their own people. The Palestinian People are good people. They are honest, hardworking people who have been basically manipulated by political system that has no regard for anybody but themselves. They dont even with the Palestinian People that supposedly represent. I think it is a sad day in america. It shows mr. Obama can pardon a terrorist organization by the plo. Thank you very much and happy holidays to you all. Host lydia is calling from upper marlboro, maryland. Good morning. Caller i think it is about time the United States stands up to israel. Billion a year in financial and military assistance and we have asked them over the years one thing, to promote the two state solution and to finally have a peace settlement in the middle east. Is to stop settlements on occupied territory. They thumb their nose at us and then netanyahu is the worst. Behavior last year and spoke in the house he came here last year and spoke in the house, didnt even tell the president and he lobbied against the iran nuclear deal. It is about time. Eventually they are going to say, oops, there is not enough land for a two state solution. Israel is not interested in a two state solution. They are not interested in peace. The palestinians were there when the state of israel was created in 1948. Host let me ask you this, other past president s have vetoed the measure. Is it a concern now that the alliance between israel and the United States may be damaged by this decision . Caller its been damaged by the actions of Benjamin Netanyahu. He doesnt like president obama and i think the feeling is mutual. The final straw this time is he called donald trump. Donald trump is a private citizen until january 20 when he takes the oath of office. Then he had the nerve to call president obama and tell him he should veto the resolution. Who is he to tell . We all have one president at a time and donald trump his bounds inserted Benjamin Netanyahu. Thank you and so did Benjamin Netanyahu. Thank you. Host one from senator Chuck Schumer who tweeted, extremely frustrated, disappointing, and confounding that the administration has failed to veto. The human resolution also a tweet from House Speaker paul ryan. Todays vote sent a dangerous precedent set a dangerous precedent. Is calling from new castle, pennsylvania on the independent line. Caller good morning. Decision. This it is about time. I hope it is not too late. I am proud of our president for at least acting now. I would like to correct a couple of things i have heard. First of all, as far as being a break with u. S. Policy, yes, it is a break with the policy of issuing the veto vote. It is not really a break with u. S. Position regarding the settlements. Acknowledged they were illegal. We have always acknowledged they are destructive in regards to the peace efforts. For primarily for political reasons with the vetoing these you and resolutions. Un resolutions. I would like to correct the previous caller restated gaza was given autonomy. I believe it was 2005 or whatever. That is a bit of a joke. Yes, there were given autonomy but they were also surrounded and they were not allowed to suppliesmport basic into gaza. They were only allowed to fish a couple of miles out to shore in the mediterranean. It was kind of a false autonomy. I think this is great. I just hope that our incoming president builds on this and does the right thing. It is not encouraging what we are hearing from him right now, trump is a dealmaker. He might just be positioning himself to where he might be able to do the right thing in the future. Host a little bit more on the timeline leading up to yesterdays Un Security Council vote from the wall street journal. It says israeli officials said they were spooked by a december for speech december 4 speech john kerry gave where he sharply criticized the settlement policy. He then held meetings with the palestinians lead negotiator on december 12 two to discuss the Peace Process december 12 to discuss the Peace Process. They discussed that the u. S. Was likely to abstain from the u. N. Resolution. It says later on word of the u. S. Abstention created panic in israel. Mr. Netanyahu held emergency meetings among senior aides. He talked to mr. Kerry on thursday morning. Israeli officials said they would seek mr. Trumps support and blocking the resolution give the Obama Administration did not act. When a guarantee was offered, they began reaching out to Senior Leaders in the trunk transition team. There is a timeline about things leading up to yesterdays vote and the israeli officials talking to members of the trunk transition team. Mary is calling from potomac, maryland. Caller good morning. Callsd say everybody who in to criticize this boat is obviously morally bankrupt. Israelators kowtow to because they are scared of the israeli lobby and the damage they can do because they have senators to overthrow in elections. Was a morally courageous vote, something that should have been done years and years ago. Paul ryan shameless, but i paul ryan called it shameless, but i think paul ryan is shameless. I applaud the president for taking this bold step and showing the world that israel does not dictate our Foreign Policy and that we stand for decency and honesty and we intervene when it is necessary on sides other people may not like. I mean the palestinians. Host let me ask you this. Some criticize the move saying it makes it harder to obtain mideast peace or open discussions about a two state solution when you have this antagonism between the u. S. And israel. Do you agree with that . Caller no, i dont because the two state solution has been talked about for years and years, and all along america has gone along in favor of israel. What has happened . Nothing. Nothing has happened. Now it is time to take the bold move and the honest thing to do, and im very proud of this vote. Very it wasa the right thing to do. Host ok. A little bit more about the reaction from Prime Minister netanyahu, according to reuters. Israel rejects the shameful antiisrael resolution at the u. N. And will not abide by its terms. That is the reaction from Prime Minister netanyahu as we discussed yesterdays Un Security Council vote. Lisa from maryland on the democratic line. Caller good morning. I could not be more proud of the two maryland callers, one republican and one democrat. I think this resolution was exactly what we should have done to abstain. Those who call and say barack obama is weak, on the contrary, he is quite strong standing up to israel and not being afraid of the jewish lobby, not being afraid of donald trump calling him which was totally out of bounds and disrespectful of his office. He should be sitting on the sidelines waiting for his turn, if he in fact those are my comments. I am so happy the maryland callers agree on this issue. They stand up to the bully netanyahu there in israel. Thank you. Host in todays Washington Post there is an oped. Two middle east experts say that the move by the Obama Administration just made mideast peace a little harder to obtain. They close by saying a u. S. Veto of the resolution would not have been an endorsement of settlements. It wouldve been an affirmation that this is an issue that can only effectively be addressed through negotiation. The best way to encourage those negotiations is not to prejudge timetables, but create the right regional conditions by countering spoilers such as iran and the Islamic State who oppose peaceful coexistence, and the right local conditions for them by reinvigorating programs and that Building Confidence through economic and security cooperation. Peace in the middle east will not be accomplished through a u. N. Vote. Rather, it will require renewed u. S. Leadership in the region in the rebuilding of relationships of trust with all of our partners there. This is where the next administration should start. John is calling in from arlington, virginia on the republican line. Caller i dont consider the vote, the abstention either antisomatic or antiisraeli. I consider it one more chance to whichhe two state policy, everybody including netanyahu say they support, a chance. The israelis were right in the 2000s not to agree to further negotiations so the until the violence stopped. The palestinians see a creeping taking of land on the west bank to the point where a state that anybody could consider contiguous, meaning one solidstate, that is ridiculous. It is way more like the apartheid system that the South Africans set up and it is not good for anybody. This is a condemning of the settlements and it has to be done that way because israel has the power to do this and the palestinians cannot do anything about it. The Peace Process is stalled. I think the president did the right thing. The usual suspects voted for the resolution, like russia and china, but he had important now is like britain, our best ally, france, new zealand voting for the resolution. It is not exactly a resolution that threatens israel, it just threatens the policy was provides for increasing expansion to make a two state solution impossible to the point where the israelis either would have to allow the palestinians to vote in their elections or concede they are running an apartheid system. Host what about that last oped piece i read that said in this kens the wea ties it gets it harder to obtain. Caller that would be ok if there was a freeze on settlement. But the negotiations have not gotten anywhere. The israelis are continuing to expand to the point where a legitimate state that could be organized is impossible. Yeah, but one of those negotiations going to start . When will they end . At a minimum if they froze the settlements, then you have time to do all this. But the israeli policy is to continue the settlements, then pushing the Peace Process off into the far future makes no sense at all because the onaelis are creating facts the ground that would be difficult for them or anybody else to reverse and make a two state solution possible. Host looking at some of our other headlines today from the Washington Post, trumps nuclear tweet leaving many unnerved. Racebraced a nuclear arms and his staff scrambled to minimize the fallout, underscored in emerging modus operandi for the president elect. He has seemed to revel in tossing firecrackers in all directions, often using twitter to offer brief but provocative pronouncements on foreign and domestic policies alike and leaving it to others to flesh out the issues his true intentions. He pitted to military contractors against each other, proposed a ban on foreign ed ch

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