Martin luther king, jr. But with started looking at him as this very sweet man, that he was a radical. He had very radical ideas and he wanted to change things in a very dramatic weight in america. And, of course, he did in very profound ways. So this book restores the radical king. Im very proud of that and there were working with cornell on a brandnew book called Justice Matters which will be out in 2015, and which looks not only at racial inequality in america but really at justice issues very broadly, including lgbt justice, including economic justice, including immigrant rights, all kinds of issues which are so important in america today. So we are happy to have cornell back and thats what theyre important to us. And then we also are publishing books cheryl, her book, place not race just cannot. Shes a very wellknown black legal scholar and she is looking at opportunity and injustice in america through the lens of place and, of course, that means class. It implies class, where people live and what opportunities, their place of residence gives them, or doesnt allow them. So thats one look at it and then her colleague, lani guinier come is look at the inequities we have an intricate society in judging marriage. Its a very test days. So she is questioning what is it that we use to measure, who was mayor, who gets to go to the elite colleges, book at all the opportunity in america. So these two women look at different aspects of justice in america with powerful, powerful books that we are really proud of. Very quick look at some of the books coming up by beacon press in the fall of 2014. This is booktv on cspan2. Heres a look at some of the best selling nonfiction books according to the wall street journal. Thats a look at this months list according to the wall street journal. And booktv is on location at the New York Public Library in midtown manhattan. Ann thornton is joining us from the library. What the deuce because i am the director of the Research Library for the New York Public Library. What does that mean . That are for research libraries. There is this one in midtown manhattan. The Schomburg Center for research in black culture in harlem. The library for the performing arts at lincoln center, and the business labor at 34th street and madison avenue. What do you do . Am responsible for collections, exhibitions, fellowships, reference and Research Services for all of the facilities as well as preservation. We will have ann thornton sure some of those collections and some of the Research Library are familiar. Where are we right now . We are in the magnificent rose reading them in the New York Public Library. This is what the heart and soul of the library. You see her lots of users are taking advantage of the libraries resources, not only our physical resources, books and materials, also access to technology which is incredibly important. Even though this room is kind of quiet and sedate, if you look at the window you can see the entire city of new york. Absolutely, thats right. When the library was founded in 1911, of course there were these Tall Buildings outside the reading the. All you could see was sky. So its really a place where the city has really grown up around the library. Why is it called the rose reading of the . The rose family name to this Reading Group in honor of their children when it was renovated in 1998. During that renovation every square inch of the services in this room were touched by a craftsperson. Its really been restored to its original splendor. The know about the paintings up on top . These are my girls that we had to recreate. They are in such a bad state of disrepair before the renovation, and so these were created in a studio on campus and being installed here. They are not painted michelangelo style. How much of the libraries collection of artifacts available for people to see . All of them. Our collections are more than 51 million items, and we have all kinds of things from books and manuscripts and archival material, photographs, prints, menus, maps, all kinds of material. One of those valuable items is this. What are we looking at . This is a gutenberg bible volume. We have a gutenberg bible in our collection. Many Great Research libraries around the world do. The significance of this gutenberg bible, which is a to point say, you see one of the blogs here, is that this gutenberg bible was the first one to be brought to the United States in the mid19th century. So its remarkable in that way. And its on display for everyone who was walking by to see it . Absolutely. The technology here of course is, whats remarkable about this, print is removable type in 1845. Up next, Michael Malone talks about the rise and importance of the intel corporation. He spoke about his book and the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, california. Thank you for joining us, everybody. Great crowd. Hello, everybody. Its an honor to be here with you guys. Put this down. I heard there was a new book coming out. Kind of neat to read passionate i think im selling more kindle copies and hard copies. Spent i was going to ask you to autograph this afterwards. [laughter] there you go. You and i could literally swap seats here because i second had the interview show and you cover Silicon Valley every day and knows what is going on. Half way through we will switch roles. I do coverage and the emphasis and we had this discussion before and lamented that Silicon Valley only looks ahead and so rarely looks back but those of us that dont look back are missing something and missing what will come next and a perfect example, you have one of the early spinoffs making money for investors through a stock offering, three volatile people, they really made the groundwork for what we see now. It all begins there. The question i give most in all the interviews is how dare i suggest intel is the most import company in the world . They havent done that well, why not face book . It has a million members. Why not google . It is the access point to the internet. If tomorrow morning the employees of intel decide to sleep in, they are tired of doing mores law for 50 years, all of this would ground to a halt. Intel is the high church of mores law, they are committed to keeping more slaw going forward. And accelerated reality and all the things we become accustomed to. It is not a law. It is a social contract. Intel and other companies that are in the business, samsung and qualcomm, made a commitment to keep the thing going, drive the technology forward. If they dont want to do it, all of this ends. Is it accurate that intel and the semiconductors are the basis for everything that came after everything we see today . We are doing uber and Autonomous Cars and all these things. We are so many generations removed from the world of ships that we forget that it all runs from there. To all emanates from there and the reason we have this progress is mores law flips every 24, the citys months and gives us a new set of opportunities in pieces moving forward. Host i want to get inside the book but first , a longrunning debate, science, theology, trinity. There are three people, the trinity, there is a religious not very subtle reference. Guest no one has ever accused me of lack of hyperbole. I was originally going to be trilogy, that is not enough because the more i thought about it it really is a biblical trinity. You have the father of Silicon Valley, you have garden and his law, the of holy spirit of the electronic revolution and the difficult but ultimately successful andy grove. And all sorts of passions going to work in all of this. Andys relationship with bob is really complicated. I am not sure i understand it now. I gave andy the last word on the book. I went to his office and talked to him. After all i knew about his history with other two founders, out of my chair, it was just the opposite of what i thought and suggesting even any doesnt and the stand his relationship to noise. Host i had to call trinity. The history of theology. It is and paranoia. And actually, it doesnt stop with intel. Look at the reverence past the life of steve jobs it borders on following not merely respect but following. Guest if you look back there is a series of key figures in the valleys history. It starts at stanford. He makes this happen. Packard, the first worlds historic figure to come out of the valley and he is the leader of the valley until the 60s. Noise, people dont appreciate that. 12 blocks that way, he was a lost kid and he couldnt find a mentor worthy of him, and he instantly realized noyce would always be able to teach him something and look at the story of apple it is apple patterning itself on hewlettpackard but jobs is patting himself on bob noyce and noyces early death scattered steve jobs. People dont appreciate what he did. It grew him up. Steve jobs grew up twice. If you near the debt the few new the early steve jobs he was an obnoxious guy. Noyces death and jobss illness created the steve jobs of legend. Jobss reputation which couldnt get any higher three or four years ago is slowly fading as the next post millennial generation comes along and they are looking at looking at Mark Zuckerberg but that wont work. I think theyre focusing on elon musk. I think he is the next major figure in the valley story. Host i would put forth this discussion, jack dorsey at square, they are still looking at what jobs was able to do at various stages of his career and think this is what i want to do to get to that point. Guest it is kind of interesting. Talking recently to andy, he suggested something happens every once in a while in the Business World where people just seem to like celebrate away from everybody else and they do something unimaginable, that they reset the rules of what you can accomplish and we saw that first with hewlettpackard, with a the great run of the h p away from 57 to 74 and we saw it at intel where intel takes the worlds with the processors, the x 86 processors and changes everything and keeps of this amazing pace and jobs gives us may be the greatest run of innovation in history where he produces three category creating 100 billion industries, one after another every three years. That is when business becomes something almost supernatural and these guys do it and if you talk to them they are terrified. They dont know what theyre doing in the thick of it but they keep going. That is worthy of a story to be told i think. Not just the results but what made from who they were. Host one person who hasnt gotten his do is robert noyce. His name is on the building. Theres a certain legendary status but we dont know as much about him. There is an amazing story you tell in the book where he had a pilots license which once almost took the life of both noyce and steve jobs. That is crazy. One of those richie valance moments. Guest it would have been the end of the digital age at the end of a runway. That is amazing. Host that is amazing. Guest that is why they dont let a lot of modern ceos do that stuff. They used to go helicopter skiing. They finally quit, 12 people died in avalanches, fellow skiers and i talked to jim morgan about it, the chairman, he said he and david would go down a hill like that and noyce would go straight down. I always thought that was an allegory of bob noyce. Amazingly charismatic figure. Did anybody here note noyce . Good. Know noyce . Good. Very few people left. Theyre running slides of all the people, how long they had been at intel. The longest person who had been there was 17 years. Realized basically nobody at intel any more ever knew bob noyce. They see him on the wall when you walk into the robert noyce building. Host perpetually young. Guest yes. It is hard to explain noyces appeal. He is as charismatic, i have interviewed all these people over the years. He is may be the most charismatic person i ever met. More than packard, more than steve jobs. Those guys, you felt the reality distortions around steve and that you are talking to George Washington or god. Noyce had this easygoing gravitas, this deep baritone voice. You was a singer and also a champion swimmer and he built this gigantic company, he also had been coinventor of the integrated circuit so he was like baseball, talk about the five tool player, noyce had done everything, he was friendly and engage in and down to earth and you could see he had that effect on steve jobs. You wanted hang around with him, you wanted to be bob noyce. That is a hard thing to convey in words and very few videos, i did the last interview with bob before he died for my pbs show. It got erased. There it is one copy on video tape that is know we and scratched, at Stanford Library and that is about it. The visual record of bob swim, and the sad thing is he died too young before Silicon Valley became world phenomena. Died just before the dot. Com bubble before intel became the most viable Manufacturing Company on earth. He left this incredible voyage. I remember driving home, when jobs diet, and you were at apple headquarters, crews in front of Homestead High School and this sort of shock wave that went through the valley. Noyces shockwave on his bed was the same but smaller because the valley was smaller. He had every boardroom in Silicon Valley. Everyone admired him. Even his competitors and there was a feeling that the mayor of Silicon Valley, that is what his nickname was, there is now a vacuum and that vacuum has never been filled. The next generation, jobs and alice, dysfunctional mayors. Host the tech archetype dating back to albert einstein, bad here, social the inapt, or was it the mad hungarian . And then you have the smooth, good with women, where does that come from in the tech world . Guest that makes him stand out. He was a very cool guy. We havent had another bob noyce since. We have lost the sort of center to the valley. We lost the ideas that it was just assumed David Packard would meet when elizabeth when she came to the valley. Everyone went to hp and stood with dave packard when he met the queen. The feeling was when the japanese industry attacked, and bob noyce pull out of intel and went back to washington and was very successful. When president obama flies in, who was the person who stands there and says i represent Silicon Valley. There hasnt been one for 20 years. How many people here worked at intel . How many worked in the Semiconductor Industry . How many people lived here 20 years . 30 . Not many hands. 40 . 50 . 60 . Wow. The reason i want to get a sense, there are not a lot of twitter people here. That is a statement on the fact the valley doesnt think about history. I think about when i walked in this building. 50 years ago i was standing right about here with a pellet gun on my shoulder hunting birds because it was one continuous field by the 40 x 80 wind tunnel. And a school in Mountain View is over there and that is where i was going to school and that is where steve jobs, everything north of here, there was a drive in theater and 20 years ago i was in this building and it was silicon graphics. This would be theyre exciting new building and i came here as a reporter for fortune. To do a story on the huge ongoing success of s. G. I and the more i talk to people memorialized this was a company in serious trouble and i wrote the very first negative piece about silicon graphics. It caused a huge stir. History proved to be correct. If we bristol at the s g i Global Headquarters i would have some apologizing to do and then they were here year and a half ago for the celebrations for the pbs documentary bob noyce and fairchild, interesting that noyce is coming back in the public eye, theres a curiosity about him. Gordon in doers forever, immortal because his name is on the law. That is what counts. I have no doubt school kids 500 years from now will be following because this is an amazing, historic interval we are in. We are lucky to be right here, right now. What i find interesting is andy who bestrode the world like a colossus ten years ago and demand i think is the greatest ceo of the second half of the 20th century, he got to ride the tiger and he did it and look how difficult it is for everybody else to do what he managed to do. Andy is in this sort of period of semi eclipse. You dont hear about only paranoid survive, i think he will come back in the public eye a few years from now. Host there is a smooth ceo, good looking ceo. Young ceos now will say bob noyce was a guy who would get the message across and so i think there is a little bit of that if you look at the jack dorises of the world, i can be smooth and on magazine covers and still leave the Company Guest and put on a shirt. Guest diane in the new yorker today which is the greatest thrill of my writing career just to see that fond gave me shivers. It is q and a by ended up saying theres a distinct difference between the battle crowd and the current crowd and that is if you go back and look at the founders of the Semiconductor Industry, founders of modern Silicon Valley, they are all sons of the working class. They have seen tough times. Noyce was the son of a preacher in iowa, apparently didnt get good sermons so got moved around. Board mores dad was the sheriff, a resting bootleggers. Gordon is of that first generation, the only local. Billups hewlett, the dean of the medicine medical program at stanford, lives in San Francisco. His dad died young social buzz with terrible dyslexia kind of a mercy acceptance at stanford. Andy went through hell budapest was overrun twice, he escaped in the 1915s literally over the wire and got here and the rest of the founders of the Semiconductor Industry in the