Before they levi will be glad to sign it. [inaudible conversations] this is booktv on cspan2. Television for serious readers. Here is our prime time lineup for tonight. Booktv visits ucla to talk with social welfare professor georgia leap about games and Gang Violence at 7 30 p. M. At 8 00 eastern, the actions of american soldiers in iraq and afghanistan. Former speechwriter adviser for president Clinton Eric Lou looks at the history of Chinese Americans and recounts his own familys experiences at 9 00. At 10 00 p. M. Eastern on afterwards dr. Ben carson sits down with chuck todd of nbc news to spot is plans to reverse what he argues is americas current decline. In our prime time programming concludes at 11 00 p. M. As Sylvia Morris recounts the life of the late conservative commentator and Congress Woman clare boothe louis. That happens tonight on cspan2s booktv. Joining us on booktv, michael cader, the founder of a group called publishers lunch. What is that . The leading source of information for all the folks in the building in the publishing industry. We have a website and other sites providing information to buy books or sell books and represent authors. What is your history of publishing . I used to be a publisher. I had my own company for a time and the first internet bubble realized there was a need for helping people sine Information Online and helping publishers and publishing people use the online space as well so i accidentally entered another business and accidentally became essentials to everyone else. I had to drop my publishing business. One reason we are talking to you at the book expo america publishers annual convention is you put out something called buzz books. Buzz books is a sampler of substantial excerpts of a lot of forthcoming discovery books so lot of books people are finding out about here at the show we have for ebook so people at home who cant come to the show or werent invited can get the same sense of previewing the big books that are not yet published all in one package. Which ones do you tell us about . Some interesting nonfiction is what your audience likes in particular. One thing we have is the cofounder of paypal, now a big investor has written from zero to one. It is based on a course he taught at Stanford University which is teaching students how to build start ups and what he knew about Building Companies and what the companies of the future are going to look like. He worked with a coauthor who is one of his students at stanford was transcribing his notes. When he was giving these lectures he didnt realize it is the makings of a book. They turned it into a book. Interestingly, he is also the founder of a Company Called oyster. Com. They are an ebook subscription service. He is practicing what he is preaching, in gauging and trying to help other companies in our space while writing for everyone so we understand what he knows and how he did it. What the think of the concept of oyster . The descriptions are interesting. I have known for a long time the power of subscription. If you find a customer and give them something they like to read for a long time, people in this building have mixed feelings. They like the idea of two ways of introducing people to books. Must like our sample, some people think the descriptions work because you contrive lots of books before deciding what you want to read in its entirety. Sometimes people have concerns about moving away from selling one book at a time because these big authors are people waiting and waiting for their next book. No one wants to seize that turned into part of everybodys book. What books do you want to talk to about . There is an interesting one by morgan storm who was actually a member of al qaeda for many years and he converted and turned into a double agent for the cia. That provides a first person look at life inside a terrorist organization as well as very risky double life that he lead and the way in which he refers to himself and helped a lot of us. It is pretty intense. How much of his book will be put on line . We have substantial excerpts, i have to look up in my book to tell you how many pages but it is morrison just that first chapters that you often find out about selling sight. These are run anywhere from usually two to 6,000 word so that translates into 20 to 50 pages and it varies by book. The other thing is these are all books weekend get the first chapter online yet because they havent been published yet so it is a way of what white we are trying to do is to say if youre interested in reading more and storm, check out peter fields and the others too because theyre all together in this free package. Cspan a few other books . Charles below is a columnist for the New York Times and he writes about his offering in louisiana so it is a very personal book, but very interesting. We have another reporter, a pulitzer prizewinning journalist comment he wrote a story about an 18yearold who killed two scientists when doing what we now call distracted driving and it follows his odyssey of repentance and redemption and this person is now a leading advocate for helping all of us to reform our distracted driving techniques that goes into the science of what is happening to us in our lives as we have all these things called our Attention Span ends helps us understand what all this is doing to our brain as well as trying to show us what is doing to our society when we are not responsible about how were working with these devices. Where can people find these excerpts . They are available in every major ebook platform. Search for buzz books 2014, fall winter. It is on every major ebook platforms so you can download for free on whatever Service Platform you like to use. Michael cader, thank you. Here is a look at the bestselling nonfiction books according to the wall street journal. At the top of the list is america which questions the future stability of the United States. Scholastic titles mine craft redstone handbook and mine craft essential hand book following second and third. Fourth on the list is strength finder 2. 0 and fifth is sarai youngs jesus calling. Retired neurosurgeon ben carson is next with his take on several issues facing the country in one nation. You can watch dr. Ben carson discuss his book with choctaw on after words. Check our web site for specific air time is. The first family detail by Ronald Kessler looking at the lives of u. S. President s through information provided by secret service agents. In the kingdom of ice, a look at the 1879 u. S. Naval expedition to the north pole. Ninth is former secretary of state Hillary Clinton with her memoir hard choices. Drebin the list is edward kleins blood feud, an examination of the personal and political relationships between the clintons and the obamas. That is a look at this months list of nonfiction bestsellers according to wall street journal. John shiffman is next on booktv talking about a department of Homeland Security sting operation codenamed operation shakespeare which was created to stop americas enemies from acquiring American Made defense technology. This is about 45 minutes. Thanks for coming. 9 name is john shiffman. I am a reporter at would ears in washington and i first wrote about operation shakespeare about two or three years ago when i worked for the philadelphia inquirer. This is david hall, a partner in philadelphia. Dave was a prosecutor for operation shakespeare. He worked alongside a halfdozen federal agents. We knew each other many years ago when i was writing my first book. He was a prosecutor all over the world. David has an unusual background as a prosecutor. Simultaneously he spent 30 years in the u. S. Navy. In the u. S. Navy reserve much of it in military intelligence. He is the only prosecutor i know who is a black belt. Over the next 20 or 30 minutes we hope to have a good conversation about a few things. We want to talk about why and how todays most coveted weapons, minister Technology Capable of guiding missiles, jamming radar, and explosions are ending up in any hands. We are also talking about the serious threat giving away our technological advantage poses to america and its troops not to mention the financial cost. U. S. Businesses and taxpayers spend billions every developing military technology which china, russia, north korea, pakistan simply steal for a fraction of the costs. We also talk about why the threat is in some ways just as important and as dangerous as the current cyberan espionage threat. We also talk about operation shakespeare itself. Let me start with a brief overview of operation shakespeare and talk about the case in the larger Public Policy implications. At the end we have time for some questions. Operation shakespeare uses one Homeland Security case, an extraordinary case to describe the shadow war that takes place daily that has fallen from the headlines. Operation shakespeare was an undercover sting operation against one prolific arms broker. It was a first of its kind sting. Conlan security agents in philadelphia created an undercover business to lure an iranian arms dealer from southern iraq into southern iran so the republic of georgia, to the capital. The iranian, the sole customer was the iranian government with sophisticated radar, computers and gyroscopes capable of firing missiles. American Law Enforcement had things like this for many years but they never caught someone in this way. Something always went wrong. The book uses the background of shakespeares thing to describe systematic efforts by the iranians, chinese, pakistani summon with koreans to acquire American Made technology. The most lethal weapons are not necessarily the big ones but small ones, small enough to be smuggled inside a package of chewing gum. Microchips and gyroscopes, night vision and technology. I have one right here. I am sure you can barely see it but this is an actual microchip from operation shakespeare. This is exactly what the iranian was trying to acquire. It is smaller than a fingernail but a few string a bunch of them together and pinpoint aircraft in the sky you can use it in radar to shoot down american planes and other things and there is a copy of it in the back of the book. You can see it is smaller than the size of a dime. To hold it here in the United States, this one is worth 5,000. It is legal in the United States but what is illegal is to take it outside the United States. That is what Homeland Security agents are trying to prevent. It is a crime because tiny weapons are vital to giving u. S. Troops the kinds of advantages they need. The army nestle fights at night with the huge advantage. Bombers and submarines noon the invisible to the enemy. Nobody wants to go to war but if we do go to war we want our soldiers to have the best protection and most of all we dont want our enemies to be able to use American Made weapons against american troops. This is not some kind of future hypothetical threat. Iraq and afghanistan, our military discussed triggers and unexploded i e ds. The shocking thing is these triggers kerri serial numbers that can be traced to factories inside the United States. And smuggled to insurgents on the battlefield. In the book when you learned the main target of operation shakespeare awarded various remote triggers from accompany in arizona. As we talk about this i want to recognize someone who is with us today. It is important to remember who we are trying to protect. In the book i open with the story of a lieutenant in the army who was killed in action in iraq and his mother is here today. I want to recognize the lieutenant at service to the country and agents who are here, i want them to me afterwards to give you a sense of the kind of person you are working for to help somebody else. Before we Start Talking about this can you talk about why these components, even the ones that might seem innocuous like the urine bag for a fighter pilot, what it matters for in the military . The cliche is a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. That is a cliche because it is true in the case of chains but also in the case of weapons systems. It seems innocuous until it is the thing it breaks and causes an aircraft to be downed for maintenance. Every one of these components matters. When forces they floyd, supply chains are stressed and often in those cases the failure rate goes up because of the absence of little components that failed. You told me once about something the navy employes call the hangar queen. Can you talk about what that is and what that tells you about the importance of having every little part . The painter queen idea is not a desirable situation from a supply point of view. What happens with the deployed forces is one of the airplanes goes down, it is not functional sub is sitting in a hangar at the second airplane goes down and the maintenance people start reading the first airplane for parts for the second airplane and at some point what happens is the first airplane isnt used anymore because it is only there for inventory. That is obviously to be avoided but is an example of what happens when a supply chain fails. Talk about how iran and china steel our military technology. How do they get it out of the country . They use, what they do is take advantage of whatever weak points they can find in our efforts, in the case of iran or china, they figured out our cybersecurity is bad, one of their main mechanisms for stealing u. S. Technology, not that iran doesnt do that but iran takes other measures as well. They are often seeking physical components to supply their maintenance people, their specific problem with aircraft is the United States supplied aircraft to iran in the 70s, f 5s, at 14s and of course after the revolution we stopped maintaining them and stop supplying them with spare parts so they had to do that themselves. And so they had the same problem and Navy Squadron has when it is deployed far from home, they start running out of things so they have acquisition agents who are in the business of trying to acquire those things so they use those shipment points and Front Companies and shipment points like dubai in order to get u. S. Companies to send them, supply them with components. The target in operation shakespeare, the iranian would do something similar. He would get he would get marching orders from the iranian government, send it by fax instead of email because if they send it by email they are worried that he might just forward it on and have the fingerprints so he would have to retype it in so he would make queries to the United States, he would claim to be in dubai or other places and have the equipment sent to dubai and the inside iran. The target in operation shakespeare, he was prolific and was a representative. What was his business model. What did he hoped to achieve . Was the political or after money . Money. He was all about the money. At would cause him to get arrested but he was not a religious zealot. You, was not ideological. I dont think he gave much thought. He didnt give a lot of thought to the implications of what he was doing. He was trying to get rich. That is what drove his business model. His idea was to take the requirements list you just mentioned the got from the iranian government and to obtains those parts and specifically wanted u. S. Parts both because they were trying to to maintain and upgrade u. S. Aircraft but also because u. S. Parts are more reliable than other parts. He would obtain those, have them shipped to a front company, he would be using a false name and try to ship them to iran. The agents in philadelphia set up a phony american storefront, export import business in pennsylvania may be 20 or 30 miles north of here and set it up in the strip mall which means wedged between the chiropractors office at the Dentists Office and started setting up to help brokers to buy american material. How did they first come in contact with the target in operation shakespeare . The idea behind the storefront was to appear to be a real business also led 31 and the Company Received all sorts of inquiries from people all over the world looking for u. S. Components. Sometimes they were not looking for illegal deals but a lot of times they were. He was one who was looking for an illegal transaction. There were a lot in the book about the agents themselves, their backgrounds and what drives them. You call them the dream team. You worked in the government for a long time and the ability to get these people working together at the same time on the same project and having a somewhat successful outcome. There were six seven primary agents and supervisors. I want to ask about three of them. A former Navy Cryptology scoot set of undercover operations. T j was and still is an extremely fine agents. He was the younger than i am. And he was a very deliberate, smart, agent who was trying to think through the problem and undertake the role, the undercover role in Mysterious Ways the that he was actually credible as a businessman. He was young, as a navy veteran, he was a Police Officer and he had been a customs agent and very knowledgeable about smuggling. John elandra was a supervisor of the case. He had been a philadelphia Police Officer for decades. You worked the streets and then he became the head of counter proliferation unit nationwide after 9 11 went overseas and health with operations overseas and toward the end of his federal career he decided to come back to philadelphia to run the counter proliferation unit. What makes him a good boss . The fact that he was not my boss. The thing about these people, they are all one of the kind people, john is a straight ahead pe