Transcripts For CSPAN2 Book Discussion On The Presidents Boo

CSPAN2 Book Discussion On The Presidents Book Of Secrets April 17, 2016

Lets not move too fast. This was 1938. Civil rights activist to are disobeying segregation codes in the south my first question is what led you to write about this subject so arcade you may not even be able to see copies . Is struck me odd that the president did United States across decades talked about in the wars the of the Intelligence Community they do not talk about the president s daily brief there is a disconnect their the most famous coming after a 9 11 with the 9 11 commission revealed what it looks like him but has to do with terrorism before and 11 but nobody has put together the pieces the press statements made and how the use the book and the differences across administration and is struck me the story that can be told the right way the interesting thing is the people who worked on it 30 or 40 years ago but you cannot talk about this even within the Intelligence Community it is that secret the work of the daily brief is classified and the funny thing is that was the policy when he who is director he classified the president s daily brief. He said of course, i didnt i thought it was already there is the impression that is no secret but the daily but going to the president is not secret. With the president s daily brief gives people an understanding of what were talking about. Every day historically looking at the Central Intelligence agency produced for the president a book cutting edge analysis on a clandestine collections communications intercept satellite imagery to put all that information together what the president needs to know that they going on in the world mib a crisis or a pending two or a longerterm issue you need to be aware of this dynamic because we have the ability to affect it now. The state is compiled and several dozen articles around the world the format and the delivery style has changed that is where the book comes from but the message is the same of truth to power with an accurate analysis to the president of the United States normally just a handful of people. Cry was impressed with the amount of research that you did to get the subject. It is interesting to share that with the audience for what we are hearing. Although i had experience with the president s daily brief the book is not a memoir from those who use pdb the most ideal former living president s and Vice President s the vast majority of Central Intelligence the white house chief of staff those the regularly had even within the white house are the cia did not. It came directly the president s who were reading it i supplement to that with research ago to the president ial library to read through the files that has been declassified by the National Archives as well. The california has declassified millions of documents from the era before the ethics severance how the pdb was used in the reception into the meetings that the officers went to. And how the document has evolved and developed over the years. Host periodically we have heard from the white house i didnt hear anything more than i read in the New York Times this morning but it gives the president very vegas intelligence statute which correspond with something from the New York Times. We will talk about different aspects but how much is a few a full view what is going on in the world . Chances are the press is pretty good. Therefore a the the president s dailt briefing if you talk about north korea looking at open source is jim. So that is one of the great period mrs. But those who have president read it several did tell me it was a much better than the New York Times. Or the New York Times was better ill not deny their interpretation but you will not see in New York Times is a way as others. We never saw producing the pdb said he would get the play when it was like the paris terrorist attack we never saw the role but to try to give a different kind of take of what is going on in the world spin again to give a tutorial that may be the case to be determined but the primary purpose of the president s daily brief is to give insider the dynamics what is actually going on that may be different than it appears . That comes from analysis and isnt a fact that the interpretation not just give the data dump of information but from the agenda is a different goal. Speaking truth to power with the timely objective the National Security advisers and others have you run across that information was cut but with a new way and ridden away to support the president that they were hedging their views because they are fighting a war in vietnam . Generally it is the opposite. People told me they would read things in the president s daily brief the policy says he will move forward and intelligence says the of facts to support that are not there. Just like vietnam reporting going on now with the president s policy with the vision of iraq that had us steady drumbeat the policy is not working well based on what we see on the ground and then they said keep it coming. They may not like reading that but it was meant to help them in the case is where the people complained more often it was i want even more insight where it is on a random third world capital. You think everyone should collect that information sometimes you will get Bad Information later. I want more on this. Host there was a course concluding of his personal views but never invited back. I think it would be interesting how did pdb start . Of jfk became president they started getting a large stack of intelligence documents from the pentagon and everywhere he said the his advisers to i have to read it all . Clearly that would not work so to cia officers created for the president ial purposes based on personality and style to develop a document only what he needed to know rather than bureaucratic language and other items to come with government documents and a couple of days he liked it. That was the intelligence checklist is of the that has continued up through president obama met today. Sometimes he would read in bed at night and this is the part of the president s daily brief the delivery and production for who is serves president johnson like to read it in bed at night so it was sent late in the afternoon as he could read it in bed at night that he went back to the morning but it makes the point is the president s book if he wants it that night he will get it at night. If it is interpreted of audience a lot of officers will be learning how to dance. [laughter] my collection when he was sitting in the bathroom. [laughter] mentioning jfk having troubles with that situation it is difficult to sit for long periods. But also his advisers said he tried to get into new ideas and the be physically but he was so excited they he had an idea to go chase that down there for having a document something small and if he could folded in his pocket to carry around during the day if he was interested in something he can read the fourth few minutes that have that idea that an hour later pull it out and read it again. They designed it for his personality for that purpose. Richard nixon delivered every morning to the white house but it was there the night before because of Henry Kissinger he did want things to go to the president he had not seen so he told them to deliver the baby for is the advisers pointed out you realize that is a us 17 hour delay he said that was the of price to be paid for him to be on top of the information. I heard that they wanted to see the brief before. From the National Security adviser for jimmy carter delivered the president s daily brief as part of the National Security briefing each morning. Normally he saw that in advance and would talk about it but the director of Central Intelligence when he came into office to figure out the president is reading this every day i and the chief adviser shouldnt i be giving given intelligence briefing every morning . So they talked with a National Security advisers and he said you have a point but then went to the president s schedule the said intelligence briefing in rhode nationalsecurity briefing sinologist inc. The document in the issue was resolved. [laughter] one of the views that we take is the of very presentation by the director of Central Intelligence provided the president and opportunity to give us a direct feedback but was satisfied than not was not what they would like us to walk, that was it valuable feedback for the agency at the time. I dont know those or not. That was a big part. One means or another iowa was working for the of president not in terms of dont tell the bad news but in terms of their respective coverage or though length analysis. Is it many pages or one paragraph . That feed back is necessary ncaa working level officer if it is like georgy to be bush or george w. Bush for all eight years of his term then you get that directly directly, back to headquarters to say this is what the president did or how he reacted. If you dont have that did you have another mechanism for the National Security adviser in new hope they pass on any feedback and in some cases the president rights on the pdb itself that was president carter style. But on his copyright in the margins and ask questions then a copy of that would get back to the agency to figure out what the president really needs. There is so is the stories of reagan not doing a lot of reading the from those sources talking about that processing of the pdb. He was not much of a reader at all but we debunk that because his own diary show many comments about the pdb he would read it alone the remark on things that were in there and we have a cia historian who went into default and above all to read through the first 1,000 and found all kinds of marks with the underlying brackets and exclamation point and sometimes she would actually have questions as this is different from what i read of the previous page. That is different from the document. And to brief the president my recollection is on several occasions we produced some films particularly of foreign leaders. There is some evidence that Richard Nixon received a phnom and gerald ford may have banned carter certainly and reagan and that makes sense someone familiar with the entertainment industry. That they wanted to supplement the analysis but added a different way to tell the story. To introduce him to a foreign leader if your meeting with somebody yes talk about their background or their personality or how they interact with other people and that gives great insight into the person he is interacting with. But it depends on the purpose showing that charismatic speaker then show a video. Said reagan was not entirely wrong. One of the remarkable stories you tell us is pdb represents the views of the community but not the cia. That has changed over time is getting input although not required. They did not know the president was getting but in recent years that has changed the president s daily brief is the wider Intelligence Community and has been for more than 10 years and as such anybody in the Intelligence Committee can write for the prefab their briefers who receive it can come from city where the Intelligence Community from the way that it was previously always incorporated the big difference who was right to get up and delivery get . There is an ebb and flow in the beginning jfk with the National Security visors no one else saw it the secretary of state the secretary of defense the yegg giving orders based on that. It does little good if it goes to the president but they do not enact Foreign Policy so they got that in six months this so that they never got to was the Vice President but when they cut into office after the assassination of jfk he didnt know this even existed for those to read to brief him to introduce into the document it was pretty clear to him he was kept out of the lamp luc. You talk about a story with president nixon in. It is another case Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger kept it very tight therefore he has not been brought into the pdb but the director of intelligence came up with a series of briefings he walks them through it to work including the group that the cia of intelligence analysis and then with the copy of the president s daily brief data is that that is the president s daily brief it goes to the president every morning. Would you like to see it . Sure. Says now he tells his story he went to virginia every morning to talk about pdb at the Kitchen Table or in the car that when he became president he said i am keeping this. So bad is operations against the president. Would of the remarkable stories that you tell the president johnson was giving the tale of 67. And before it even started we dont think this will last longer than the sixday war it is separate a good analysis. With Richard Nixon as president there is a lot of tension in ago when non on the egyptian inside of the border and the analysis one morning was the Egyptian Military exercises at the time the president was ready yet they were invading israel it was a complete failure that led to many reexamination of intelligence with the book. You call it a book. You will see pictures read to see the president holding a spiral at the top sometimes found on the side he wanted much more late breaking information into be put into the book with a three ring binder you could put it a new report is set of something that the biggest j. J. Is this administration brought obama gets his pdb on the ipad. It is very special different from that home but it is said different way to get the information in the format across the decades. The thought of doing this 20 years before. I was digging through the files that a consultant for the National Security council that we can do this state where we have is being called a keyboard but you press the button for a longer story begins to page after page that you typed it in question and that the bell went to kissinger. He did not act on that and all. And they say you got this in 70 that was not fair by the way. For regulate blood dash recollection of that was over 40 years ago but why did you back . He said i did even know what a computer was at that point would not have worked. Quite remarkably read with your book published . And last september the cia released 2500 pdb at a conference sponsored by the diversity of of texas at austin i dont know if you have a chance to look at those you get the stories from the Vice President their briefers mca directors the most of the content is retrieved classified like a black hole you cannot see inside of it. But there is thus not during of some issues that have been declassified then the cia last fall said we will open everything from the Kennedy Johnson era about 80 percent of the material with those that are redacted or blacked out. Ill look through those it did change anything for historians then you have read trevor trove of materials if youre interested in the condo in the late 60s with every president since john kennedy that is a downer. But i definitely looked if it tastes our view during the kennedy era. What i expect to come forward to take a few digits of this specific information and every morning. Later this year by understanding ford and nixon will be released to the save the fashion that the remains classified for ever. In those involved in it for what could be released into history. I the guy obviously those within the workings of government to have a unique opportunity to speak very senior people and we are unique as a country to make so much over yet told our Senior Leaders and advisers what is going on in the world humans have developed some sense does the system work . Is in getting the right information . Is that a bureaucracy . And exact to have spending government yourself. What i learned from the people knew mattered most from the president s daily brief is how much they appreciated it to the technology in the production of the book and to a person they seem to appreciate their remember every other institution has a policy agenda. They want the president to back that early created to that application process that is why george h. W. Bush agreed to write the foreword of the book it was an e or the president s daily brief itself but to thank those who produce the book the only person to hold of repossessions would dash positions and said banks for those really rarely get credit for those without the ax to grind. Many people said i wish it had more i thought the cia had do everything that they would narrow that komen of the uncertainty. Really . We see only this are possible. Your answers have been stimulating but lets go to the audience i would ask you to wait for the microphone. Can you give us an idea is this set ted page document or 50 pages . People want to put the not sealer that quickly but just to get a sense of that. Had second they were brilliant and handsome and articulate is important but how did you get these people to talk . [laughter] i like that he and some brilliant part i asked. Simple. For i have a feeling most dont ask because it is a secret they wont talk about it. I also did my homework gets lots of the Archival Research to look into the details that i do not have an ax to grind. To say this is something i have access to to live the the history. Seven that was a Snowball Effect they go to a National Security advisor. Whod you talk to it to talk to a National Security advisor there are differing views would you like to get your view . Said of the they are cooperati

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