Booktvs after words. Historian harlow under recounts how George Washington transform the office of the president. All this and more on booktv on cspan2 this weekend. The full schedule is available at booktv. Org. Most people dont understand how it works. A lot of people write books and spend the next two years trying to get somebody to publish their books. I have never experienced that. People say how do you get a book published . I say look, but i finally felt i had something. Write books for the purpose of writing books. The first three, four books actually i did with a cowriter. Basically i would dictate them to a tape recorder and sent them the tapes and they would transcribe things. I did myself with my wife, she did a lot of research and helped with editing and of course she is quick to point out this is the first one that hit number one on the New York Times bestseller list. I enjoy working with my wife so certainly i will be doing that from now on. Fortunately it does tend to come pretty easily. It is very much like speaking. When i give a speech i dont have a written text. I just go up there and survey the situation and ask what kind of audience we have and i have a few points i want to make sure that i make that i have written on a card and start speaking to. Basically i write the same way. I have a chat a chapter title and i will write down some bullet points out what to order. And start dictating. It is very much i asked god to guide me in my riding, to give me wisdom in terms of what points need to be brought out. Fo it does a pretty good job with that. Were back with two authors on a new book on Hillary Clinton, senior White House Correspondent at the hill and Jonathan Allen who is now at bloomberg news, White House Correspondent for them, coauthor of h r c hrc. What story trying to tell about Hillary Clinton . At story a couple storylines. Are y one is a come back story. She has been through a lot during the 2008 campaign. How would i come back . I found that fascinating. Anyone know matter their Party Affiliation would find that fascinating. The other thing is how she would govern if she were president and we wanted to look at this, her biggest management job. She weree how does she manages 70,000 job. Person bureaucracy, how would ho she govern . What decisions as she made . N all these things are highlightem in the book. Nd herse if you are trying to figure f out what kind of president would she make she runs in 2016, what did you think you needed to say about her . What ki how it is she makes decisions, what she puts an ut w emphasis on, what her priorities are for the people around her, a she has had a lot of experience and nobody campaigns very successfully, the ultimate ns se washington insider on television but not necessarily for president ial candidates, but the truth is what we see with a lot of recent president s his didate. Inability to maneuver in ee washington, to work with congress, lack of understandingn how agencies work with a private or public sector, we want to ger an idea ofk views on those things. One of the things we found is oe she has seen this having action to do things, be willing to takh some risks in order to take some risks in order to try to achieve something and most politicians are risk averse. What did you learn about her . Her personality, her decisionmaking, what did you , hened . One of the big things is bias fraction that she has, that is clear throughout the book. The we learned she is quite a retail politician in her own right. We think of bill clinton, her husband as the gregarious guy but she does it too. We we have a story of how when she walks the state department she t spent 16,000 thank you notes to people, 5,000 handwritten which was quite a task and we thoughtt that was interesting and she kept tabs on politics. Also how e she was away, traveled to 112 countries but she always had hea pulse on what was happening. Had he r advisers in terms of politics, in 2016, we detail how she kept the operation flowing u and continued to reach out to tn the Business Community to donora and supporters throughout her time the state department, settle scores on the campaign t trail, how president obama with reelection, all these steps in. Position for 2016 potentially. Going back to thinking people, president ial campaigns dont work out, candidate end, it is the end of the road for him. You was thinking ahead, kept up with these folks. End not only does it help in winning an election or keeping your supporters with you but it also helps when youre trying to move among Public Policy issues latet on. Lic it is classic politics. The kind of thing Old School City mayors would do and something i think is one of Hillary Clinton is ways of reaching out to people. Wa husband has that great charisma and personal charisma in terms of Winning People over. She has to work harder at it. Theres a lot in here about bill clinton and what he is doing at the same time she is ng secretary of state. Ere about why did you include that in the book . E is secreta why does that matter . They are interwoven. I tell the story all the time i see her as her own person. He is so much a part of her life is hard to separate the plea to his storyindi is her story. Her story is his story. They are tied together for good and bad. What her age agree with that or like it . Gether for g if there were a truth serum they would agree with it. I am not sure they necessary gus like i know they dont like all the things in the book but there are these sort of hillary land and bill world. Up their own strategies for getting things done is a lot of conflict. Did you hear from the for secretary of state . A lot of we are n cot talking about w we spoke to but we are happy with the access we got. The reaction to it . Guest have you heard from we heard mixed reviews. S. Some clintonites are not happy with it. Py with that is a good way to say it. One of the headlines from the book was this hit list that Hillary Clinton aides got after the primary where they attract people that were not trading particular the well and clintond went on the campaign trail. Theo plewho do not treat her particularly well and then bill clinton went out on the campaign trail and not many of them out in the primaries. Nobody in clinton land like that at all. There was one part where you talk about clerc mechanical and how much she is disliked by the clinton camp . To this day it is interesting. She is one of the people who has come out early to endorse Hillary Clinton. She ran in 2016. It date to 2006. The clintons campaigned for her, fundraiser for her and she was on meet the press, i wouldnt want my daughter near him. That anger a lot of clintonites. Following that she said she made this quick to a friend were she said i dont think i wouldnt want to be caught stuck in an elevator with her which we found interesting. Senator mike castle mcca i mccaskill endorsed senator obama. At Clinton Campaign headquarters people were hoisting their tv sets anytime they saw her on washington journal. She would be on every morning so now we have seen this Claire Mccaskill is trying to get back and bill clintons good graces. When you talk to their aides they still hate her. That is not going to change anytime soon. Back to her decisionmaking process, this is one part from your book. She had something more driving herds in power. She has a strong moral compass. This is a quote from one of her a long time friends she leans into. She doesnt wear religion on her sleeve but if you had any links of conversation with her as a methodist and talk to her about her faith she would be very insightful. What do you make of the role of faith . Something she has talked about at times, but generally reticent about, clearly is important to her, one of the things we found out is she is on the email chain with a small set of old friends palmer her faith adviser in 2008, more, a longtime clinton aide who was with jesse jackson, discussing religious teachings and quote, something where sheet doesnt go to church in public, disturbing other peoples ability to worship because of the fanfare, and state department detailed. Something that matters to her, her face is a branch of mechanism which has a strong component of Public Service in it. Pcs her role to do things for the better good. Not everybody agrees with her view of how that chip happen or what is the better good but it is something that is driving her. That played a role in her decision to accept president obamas many pleas to join her administration and takeover. She said no, he said think about it. Think on it. Then she calls a few times and eventually what happened was he offered it to her and she said lets talk conditions and she called him back one morning. The way she explains is if she had been president elect and senator obama then to serve for her she would have expected him to do it. She has a call for Public Service. It means she is a politician but this is something she believes in. More details to delve into from the new book hrc, what her role was, what her responsibilities were when she took credit for it, what she did at the state department, we will get into here but first howard is up first in pennsylvania. How i, howard. Caller i would like to say i think the middle class, i consider myself part of the middle class, whether you are a republican or independent or democrat, we are looking for someone to address the problem of our jobs going to china and india, bringing them back to america, i think obama made a big mistake by emphasizing health care. I think the economy is number one and our jobs. That is all i have to say. Host you read about the role Hillary Clinton played when president obama said he would push health care. Guest this is previously unrecorded before the book. Secretary clinton asked generally attempting to stay out of domestic politics generally at the job as secretary of state to get involved in domestic politics. In addition because she was involved in health care in 1990s there is a little texas city she might have had for obamacare had she been publicly involved. She was offering advice to rahm emanuel, a to president obamas top aides. Her history with health care fighting in nearly 90s, she ended up talking to a few lawmakers for the white house who were considering what they should do with their votes and we write about a scene in 2009 right after the Tea Party Summer as it were in september of 2009 and basically all the cabinet members were starting to get upset. There was frustration and complaint with the white houses agenda given complete subsumed by health care and health care was going to bring down the party and bring down the rest of the agenda. Hillary clinton made a plea for the rest of the cabinet members to get to president obama. There isnt an opportunity like this that comes along very often. We are better set up that we were under the clinton administration. Lets get this done. Folks in the administration told us that was then underappreciate it moment. It was still a pretty Pivotal Moment where she was bringing the the force of her political weight behind president obama in front of all these leading democrats. Host you have this picture of obama received in a congratulatory hug from Hillary Clinton the day after the house passed the portable care act. Clinton pushed for Health Care Reform when her husband was president. Supporters of obama insisted it be passed and spoke up on the president s behalf as you were describing. Lets go to bob in illinois. Caller good morning, look forward to reading your book. I have two questions. We are told we shouldnt talk about the past with secretary clinton so looking forward as she does i wonder if you guys would rank her accomplishments as secretary of state. Would it be reset with russia, slowing down irans involvement in developing a nuclear bomb, egypt, syria, benghazi . How would you rank those and number 2, we saw the photo of a Osama Bin Laden was taken down, the white house situation room. As far as we know Hillary Clinton and the president were in washington when that happened. All your interviews and research did you ever see also in the situation room or know where she was during that day . Thank you. A couple things. Lets talk about her accomplishments at the state department. Goahead, amie barnes. Guest one of her biggest things is she did support the president. She was a big advocate for him on issues like libya, the afghan surge, the race for Osama Bin Laden, the reset button is also a big moment for her. And other moments that john can talk about. Guest generally speaking the United States was seen better around the world after the first term of the Obama Administration and she was chief advocate for the United States abroad so relationships with European Partners improved. You saw said relationships in the arab world improved. Not everything got better in the way we were perceived but that was an important thing when she contributed and she also elevated development and diplomacy as part of American Foreign policy for so long. Elevated development and diplomacy as part of American Foreign policy for so long in the post9 11 world. American foreignpolicy was all combat. It was all military. That elevation of diplomacy as part of the foreignpolicy mix was an important accomplishment and it wouldve been harder for some folks with less influence to do it as fast in the american government. What about weighing in on the controversial issues that the secretary of state has to take on. The middle east peace process. There is obviously no middle east peace. She did not get israelis to sit down and join hands. Nor has anybody else in a long time. And the white house really wanted to control she had a special envoy for the middle east and he becameest frustrate and ended up quitting. With regard to the middle east, the last time there was an out outbreak of violence, Hilary Clinton went in and handled the conflict to get a seize fire. She wasnt sure how long it would hold, but it has held for a year and a half so far. No longterm peace deal, though. The head of the cia came to her one day in the situation room and i said i want to talk to you about something. They planned a secret meeting where he came for lunch. No one knew about it. And he wanted her byin for the raid on laden and we think that is a Pivotal Moment because he saw she has the socalled bias for action and she wanted her support on that. And she disagrees with defense secretary gates. And this is someone she al n aligned with and they shared many opinions. She was the hawk in the meetings and biden was the dove and president obama took a more hawkish position than most thought. You do write she and president obama were in washington the day of the raid, correct . The bin laden raid . Yes. There was a funny moment the night before where it is like what happens if this interferes with the whitehouse Correspondents Dinner and she used a curse word and said who curse word cares and the president had to change his jokes because he knew what was going to happen but others didnt. Including the person who wrote the joke. They didnt know romney was going to be the nominee. And they went through and gave all of the likelihoods of candidates and assigned them names and stuff and they had to change it because of the raid going down. Lets get students involved. Our cspan bus has been touring the country. It is at Ohio State University and we have six Political Science majors aboard. Starting with krista johnson. With such an extensive history in the spotlight, positive and negative, it seems remarkable Hilary Clinton has been able to maintain a positive image to most americans. What is the reason for that . Part is resilliance. She has been up and down and when she is knocked down, she doesnt stay down. For her enemy respect the fight and see her as an inspiration for coming back and back. We saw she wasnt poplar running as a front runner and we are seeing that in 2016. But as the underdog she grandmother gained more and that is why the book is so readable. And she had high numbers while at the state department. And she was told largely by one of her friends because youre not in politics. And now the numbers are coming down already. And her friend advised had her on the way to the general ass assembly, she said once you come back to the politics, watch out because your numbers are high now, but watch out. Gerald is up next. Good morning, how are you on this beautiful morning . Doing just fine. What is your comment or question . Nothing is finer than being in carolina. I am a disabled vietnam vet. I think most americans dont confuse the definition of scandal which is without proof. The second item is benghazi. Most people are leaving out the bicitizen report where she refused security from august 16th until september 11th when the commander offered it. And the situation in syria, where russia is intervening, why dont we offer them the warm water port, the only one they have, and say if they run it the way britain did hong kong for 50 years and we could settle the problem. Scandal versus accusations. We are hearing monicas name coming up and there is difficulty in how to handle it in the republican party. You have rove saying there is no such we can focusing on, why are we dredging up the past. So they have to decide how to handle that. But i dont think you will hear a peep on the clintons from this. And here is a tweet from the viewer that says benghazi disequalifies Hilary Clinton as commander i