Been a show mocking islam on broadway like there is mocking mormonism, do you think first that anybody would have put it on some do you think there would have been violin result and the professor says, no, no, would have been the same. Muslims are perfect live okay with that perfectly okay with that. Youre taught lies on a campus. Yale university is so scared of islamists that they refused at the last moment in their own book on the mohammad cartoons in denmark to publish the cartops in a book on the cartoons they would not publish cartoons. On a book on nazi antiseptember tim would they have preduesed naziisms about the ju jews in of course. No christian is killing anybody for antichristianity. Theres a christ thing that went from museum to museum of the crucifix in the quoteunquote artists urine. Can you imagine a picture of muhammad in urine what would happen havent . But yet were taught theres no bigger threat from the world of islam than there is from the world of christianity. Thats taught at here and virtually every university in america. Dennis prager, where can people hear your radio show. Guest at it national. Go to dep nit prager. Com and i have something that i am trying to undo the dam of the university, called prager university. Com. We got the finest thinkers in the world in very sophisticated just five minutes, all i ask people for is five minutes, prager university. Com. Im trying to do with whatever god gives me more to live and with the health and energy i have, to undo the damage that is being done by leftism, and the sad part is i know this because my extended family is mostly liberal, and i love them. And so i always think of them whenever i attack leftism. Am i attacking my dear extend family and not my immediate family. Thank god my boys are conservative. But i love them. And i know theyre good and but i believe theyve been misled because all you study from Elementary School to graduate school is from the left. It is a brain wash. If all you studied was evangelical christianity, from childhood to graduate school, wouldnt the liberals say you were brainwashed . Why isnt it true if you just get secular leftism from Elementary School through graduate school. Do you know that here in cast textbooks are enough by will you must include the contributions of the transgendered . By law. You will have to have pages on transgendered contributions. People who were crossed over sex, or dressed in the other sex. Clothing. Isnt that absurd . Isnt that totalitarian . I thought the purpose of the textbook was to tell the truth, not make groups feel good. But as i point out in the book, leftism is overwhelmingly rooted in feelings. Host Dennis Prager is the author. Still the best hope is the name of his recent best seller. Louis from florida, youre on the air. Youre talking with Dennis Prager. Caller id like to ask mr. Prayinger and his ilk what he just said about truth, why should people believe the bible when thats the biggest novel ever written . Who believes the earth is 5,000 years old . How can you follow a book that tells you the world is 5,000 years old and hisclass commentary about the Christian Schools and the seminary, how does he Say Something like that and he wants to be honest . I know this man is a right winger, and he wouldnt fifth credit to anybody, but my main question is, why is he so hung up on religion when religion is just a false pretense . Answer me host all right, louis, we got the response. Let get a response. Guest okay. First of all, i dont know anybody and i am rather deeply involved in the christian and jewish world who believe the world is 5,000 years old. There are some people who do. I dont give a hoot. I think the universe is 13. 7 billion years old. Whatever science tells me, and proves, i believe. So its a nonissue to me. Dont read the bible for geology. I read the bible for moral guidance. So did every founder of this country, including jefferson. Jefferson removed the miracles but jefferson wanted you know what jefferson wanted the seal of the United States to be . You can look it up on the internet. Jefferson some franklin called deities, the seal of the United States was to be the jews leaving egypt. That how steeped in the bible jefferson was, not to mention adams and washington and so on. Thats where we got the idea that we get our rights from a creator that comes from that book. Doesnt come from dna. Doesnt come from darwin. Values dont come from secularism. Secularism doesnt have a value system. Secularism is the absence of religion but the Judeo Christian value system gave us our values. If god doesnt say do not murder, murder is not wrong. This drives people crazy and i have debated this at oxford and elsewhere, and the leading athiest philosophers all agree if there is no god the wrongness of murder is soley a matter of personal opinion. I like yellow, you like blue, i like murder, you dont like murder. Only there there is a god who says do not murder is wrong. So im very fearful for the United States dropping the bible in favor of, you now what . Feels. Because i dont trust the human heart very much. In the section of your book, the moral record of islam, allah alone runs the world, reason some nature have no say, you write, and that is probably the primary reason why, after a certain date, science ceased to most likely could not develop in the muslim world. Guest i back that up. We talked about leftism the whole time but the book, after all is bat islamity. Theres islam and then theres islamism. Islamism is the believe that sharia should govern the society. Thats what im worried about. Im not worried about the moderate muse him. Its no nonissue to me and the secular muse limit im worried the muse him going society. There was a terrible battle, and i back this up. 400footnotes in the book. A terrible battle during the early middle ages within islam. Do things happen because they happen or solely because god allah wills it . And theliale the allah wills it team, as it were, prevailed. So the example given, if an arrow hits its target its not because of wind velocity of the ability of the archer its solely because allah willed it and so reason some obviously science ultimately became rather rare in a major part of the islamic world. Host Dennis Prager, miguel, posts on four facebook pain for you, the left is for the state to play a fair arbiter and equalized role, once achieved the state fades away in pragers view, however, corporate, religion, and social darwinism should be the rule that opresses the masses and benefits the few. Guest okay. The state fading away, if my i stud yesterday marxism at the school of International Affairs so im very familiar with that. Everything marx predicted did nod come through. This is one of them. The state doesnt fade away. It always gets bigger. I dont know writ is getting smaller on earth or ever got smaller. It gets smaller only if conservatives prevail, Margaret Thatcher or the late grate ronald reagan. If willfully it is made small. That is by the way the american ideal, this person obviously, god bless them, doesnt agree with the american ideal of small government about i have a motto, and it is a truism. The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. As the go gets bigger, you and i get smaller. As the government gets smaller, we get bigger. We take care of our neighbor. We take care of ourselves. We take care of our families. Instead, as in europe, the government is everything. The biggest concern of most europeans is, can i work fewer hours and how many trips can i take because now its a human right in europe to travel . We have had why did we have why do americans give so much more charity than europeans . Why . Are we born better . Of course not. We give far more charity than europeans because the european has been taught, you dont have to take care of anyone. The state will do it. And why . Why are lefties proud of that . What is beautiful about that . I conclude a mars cyst because the state will take care of my neighbor. Cohad a huge demonstration on behalf of legal marijuana. Wow. If my child had gone to a, lets celebrate legalized marijuana i would have believed i failed as a parent utterly. The mass simple involved here, that is what preoccupies you. Youre now a free to get high on marijuana. Just think about what animates a lot of people . Its just painful, frankly. So, this and social darwinism . Is this what the left uses to attack the belief i dont even know what belief theyre attacking. What about social darwinism . That the talented and the harder working get ahead . Why is that darwinism . Why didnt that merit . I have in there from i believe its a harvard economist, a princeton economist actually. Man won a nobel peace nobel pri. And he shows how much more television poorer people watch than richer people, because richer people dont have the time to watch tv. They work so hard to get ahead. This doesnt mean that poor people dont work hard but on average, in america, by and large, there is a correlation between hours worked and income. By and large, of course there are exceptions at both ended. Host booktv is on the campus of the university of Southern California the Los Angeles Times festival of book, and matthew in portland, oregon, youre on with Dennis Prager. Caller good morning, mr. Prager, pleasure to talk with you. Guest thank you. Yeah. Trying tomorrow my original question because you said so much. I appreciate you comments. You mentioned a comment earlier in the interview about how the left sees making youtopia on earth and religion is more about utopia in the afterlife. I would say that u. S. History, especially revolutionary history, is that the founding of the country and the special values we have are all men created equal, and all those special things that are new to the world, not necessarily making utopia, but all those wasnt just sitting back and accepting what was. It was trying to make it better. How do you respond . Guest thats good. Thank you very much. Of course look, my whole point of the writing of the book is that we have the best system for making a Better Society. A Better Society is not utopia. The president of the United States, five days before he was elected, said to a very large crowd in five days the fir election in five days well fundamentally transform the United States of america. I dont want to fundamentally transform america. Utopians want to fundamentally transform america. I want to improve america. Not fundamentally transform it. Thats the utopian streak at the hart of leftism. We can make a world where there is no suffering, no evil. Of course its a beautiful goal, but to have it as a reality . Everyone who has tried to make a you utopia, my viewer, everyone, everyone who has tried to make utopia on earth has made hell on earth. Those who want to incrementally improve it make a much better place. Host from our twitter page, carol romano asks mr. Prager, why are liberals so vested in box boston bombers being homegrown white terrorists. Guest there was an article on a liberal web site, where the author, a man i debathed once debated once, said he hopes it is a white american, homegrown american. Can you imagine had somebody written an article, i hope its a black . Or i hoch its i hope its a middle middle easterner . Can you imagine the tsunami of con tell he would have received . Look, that man and others dont want to recognize that there really is a moral problem within islam today. That to say that means youre a hater. We cant say truths. If youre against affirmative action, youre a racist. If you are if you think the human fetus has any rights more than a dog or as much as a dog, youre a sexist. If you think Summary Judgment be defined as a man and a woman, then youre a homophob. Theres a oneword label for all of us that is thrown out. So if i say, yes there is a bigger moral problem in the world today in the world of islam, an the clippity or buddhism or hinduism, then youre an islamophobe. So, therefore no debate is necessary. And that its the reason they do it, because, as i have found and had on my radio show the greatest, most of the biggest leftist names, except New York Times columnists. They dont go on shows. Tom freedman will go on npr but not on any of the conservative talk show hosted. I dont blame him, even though we will treat him perfectly decency and im known for treating folks i disagree with decently. Thats why they come on. I just had on the Great University of chicago professor, one of the leading names on the left, and he was delighted to be on and we dont agree on anything. But my motto on my show is, i prefer clarity to agreement. So, if i clarify where i differ with the left or whomever, good. Back to this. To merely say that there is more of a moral problem today in the islamic world than in the christian or jewish or buddhist or hindu is to be called names. People are afraid of being called names. Im not. And it shuts up a lot of people. Host kathy in west mont, illinois, go ahead with your question or comment. Caller mr. Prager, i have a question. One of my questions for you is, can you name any society that youre aware of that doesnt suffer from deep levels of poverty that is not crimeridden . Host kathy, can you very quickly explain what you anymore. Guest can i name a society that is crime ridden that does not suffer from deep poverty. The point being that there is only crime where there is poverty, is that first of all, every society has poverty. And i would turn the question around. Were the impoverished ancestors of virtually every living american criminals . My grandparents had less money in absolute and relative terms than the average poor person today. The thought that my grandparents would have committed a crime is laughable because they were religious jews who had a value system that never said, if youre poor, you can rape. So its unbelievable to me to ascribe evil to poverty. Host Dennis Prager, elizabeth posts on facebook, on a personal level, what has been the hardest challenge in your life and how did you get through it . Guest the hardest challenge on a permanent level . Or an idealal. Host personal. Guest divorce after 17 years was a terribly painful thing. Terribly. And you build hopes, you have dreams, and they and you have a child, and its all very painful. I am very open on my radio show, as i am here. People know about my life. I dont think there is a closer second to that. I had eave dream of a picket fence, not necessarily dogs but my wife wanted dogs. Im currently married to the love of my life, and she loves dogs. I like dogs for the record. Dont love them. Host next call for Dennis Prager comes from dennis in st. Louis, missouri. Guest i bet you dennis is over 50. Are you over 50 . Caller i sure am. Over 070. Guest there are no young denniss. Host go ahead. Caller im also jewish, and ive been interested in our york for along time. Not bass i afree with you but because i enjoy disagreeing with you. Quickly, and make you have already answered this, from a jewish perspective, how do you explain why so many jews seem to support a much larger role for the state than you die and even why so many jews are more critical of israel than you are . Which by criticism i dont me support mean supporting the palestinian cause. And then a comment also a retired teacher and i thought you inflated the power of teach not the power of teacher unions over bread and butter issues about i thought you inflated the influence of teacher unions over what is actually taught too to students. Guest not. By state law. Host dennis . Very quickly, well get mr. Prayinger to respond do you listen to his Radio Program . Do caller i read a few of the books and articles, and occasionally have gone on cspan to pick up other programs. I use your web site a lot to listen to interviews. So host , thank you, sir. Guest all right. Well thinks for call. Guest why are jews on the left is a very complex question, and i could devote the hour it to but i wont. So here in a nutshell. When jews left judaism, they stayed religious but the religion tray affirmed tenned to be any form of leftism rather than judaism. This it not a condemnation or insult. Its a description. Jews have been taught by judaism to make a better world. That is the message of the prophets. And if they warrant going werent going to do it through teach the world god is the source of ethics and demands ethical behavior they did it through secular ideas. They rejected religiousity and accepted a new religiousity which is secular. Many people describe marxism as secular. Heres an interesting statistic and at it in my book. Didnt come up with this, a professor at Brandeis University did. The most procommunist press in the 1930s, outside of the soviet union or inside the United States was the Yiddish Press. Jews took a new religion as as substitute for judaism and that was, you name it, feminism, environmentalism, marxism, socialism, and for some even communism. But jews loveisms. They create new moms and every one will make this great world and in state of using the their religion that came with being jewish, and its a very sad development to me. Host still the best hope. Nancy is in georgia. Go ahead with your question or comment. Caller hi everybody. Hello, mr. Prager. This is the first time unfortunately i have ever heard your name, although youre very interesting. Guest where do you live . Caller i live in south of atlanta in georgia. Guest im on atlanta every day for three years. Ill have to listen. Im a wherein christian, aim neither left nor right. I think that both arecast casting stones and theyre corporate owned. Jesus said were all one and within that im often troubled by the talking headed of bowling sides i dont mean that as a percentage youretive where they dont do anything to reach out one to the other. I found our biggest problem is reaching across laterally, and it seems that the talking folks on both sides tend to help guest what do you mean by reaching out . Does it mean agreeing with the other . Dialoguing . On my she, have the leading spokesman whenever possible from the left. Is that reaching out . If so, im innocent of your charge. Host go ahead. Caller