Is because they have done better with every group across the board. We have divided the electorate in the chart, available on our website, into voters with college degrees, voters without college degrees, because we have found that Educational Attainment has been a pretty votective component of the when you look back a couple of decades. Democrats have been doing better and better with voters with clege doing better and better. That is another interesting aspect. Lets get a couple more calls. Dearborn heights michigan independence line. Hello. Im calling about South Carolina. Therecarolina. There is a state that is probably almost 50 percent black and 50 percent white. I might be wrong about that. Unless i am mistaken there is only one black congressman. This idea that the Supreme Court, redistricting is wrong. About a computer idea is great. Im a democrat. Independent democrats. The. Is, we have to make the election fair. Take three states like texas, florida, california, the minorities in our majority and we have nothing but 90 percent white congressman. How is that possible . Well, there are a lot of reasons. In the state like texas, texas, for example, i think the greatest factor at work is simply the lack of eligibility you see that even in the district, texas 23rd district, 68 percent latino. Anglo still make up a pretty big majority of all voters there. Aa district is currently represented by a republican. You even see some districts in texas were africanamerican democrats for anglo democrats have to be latino candidates and primary simply because latino voters are eligible or do not show up in great numbers. The caller raised the issue of South Carolina, and i find that interesting cases well. South carolina is closer to 30 percent africanamerican but still the caller has a point. If you were to apply that 30 in the states seven districts it would be more logical for the state to have two rather than simply one. South carolina gained the Southern District in 2010 and chose not to draw an additional africanamerican majority district. So that then becomes a legal football. Do you have to maximize the number, or is it acceptable to simply draw, to maintain the africanamerican sheriff that one. And. And actually, the Obama Justice department signed off on a republican after 2010 in South Carolina that preserve just one seat. Just want to look ahead as we wrap. We did not touch on this earlier. Where things stand anyway at the end of may. Republicans 210, 169. Likely orlean seats, 28 republicans, 16 democrats. Nine republicans three democrats. A whole lot of movement will happen in 2016. Could any ofcould any of these decisions from the court or other courts change that . Well, it is remarkable that we have 435 congressional districts that only 12 or tossups. That has contributed to the decline of any suspense by the time Election Night comes around. I do noti do not anticipate that the Supreme Court ruling in arizona will affect that. If anything it preserves a couple of competitive seats that might have otherwise been eliminated bipartisan. And in 2016 republicans stand an excellent chance to maintain their majority in the house. Democrats will gain seats bouncing back from a bad year in 2014 when a lot of there own constituencies stayed home in large numbers , but democrats would need to pick up 30 seats to get back to the minority. Right now we only rate nine republican at severe risk. Risk. There are another 13 that lean republican. Even if it would still fall a seats short of the majority. Democrats have some of there own seats at risk, to. Senator for the cook report viewers and cspan listeners can follow your reporting on the house, follow you on twitter. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much. 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All over the colorado potato and especially here in mesa county outside of Grand Junction we are surrounded. Wewe find dinosaur bones, fossils, and that is intriguing scientists. The other thing we find is a mineral, rock. It contains radium. Also contains something used to strengthen steel. During the bold during the build up to world war ii it was of extreme value. It also contains uranium which is one of the best sources for atomic power and atomic weapons. Colorado congressman was largely responsible for this areas Agricultural Development through water legislation. Fought the battle to preserve water for western colorado by making sure that we got our fair share. How . Well, beginning in his state career and going onto his federal career he climbed up the ladder of seniority and was able to exercise. More power than you might normally have. Certainly in the United States congress where he was able to make sure colorado and western colorado would be treated fairly in any divisions of water. His 1sthis 1st major success was the passage of the Colorado River storage project in 1956. See all of our programs from Grand Junction and sunday afternoon American History tv. Joining us from toronto canada is mubin shaikh. Good morning. Jihadi. Tell us valuable, why did you write a . Guest hello. I really wanted to put the message out for really, other mothers other young muslims. To put up ande book hopefully see themselves in it. For people to see what happens to people. There were multiple reasons for doing it. Host you talk about your own adoption of radical ideas. Tells about your story. How did you get to that point . Guest i went to Public School during the daytime. It was a very mixed environment. Very caring, nurturing environment. In the evening, i would go to koran school. It was like the indian or pakistani system where boys and girls were separated. You sit in front of wooden benches, not understanding of word of what you are reading. If you made a mistake, you were slapped. This severe contrast, i believe, late of foundation for an identity crisis that would manifest later on in life. When i got to high school, i wasnt picked on or bullied. I was one of the cool kids. We were part of the in crowd, so to speak. Party, and my house party and my father was out of the country. He told his brother, my uncle, to check on the house while he was gone. Of course, in the middle of the house party, my uncle walked in. I was 17 years old. A teenager, it was the end of the world for me. I was shamed into feeling so bad about what i had done, i convinced myself that the only way i could make amends with my family was to quote unquote get religious. To do that, i went to india and pakistan on a fourmonth religious trip. While i was in pakistan, i had a chance encounter with the taliban. That is where i was the by the , andi bug, as i call it became a supporter of both the taliban and al qaeda after that. Host if you want to talk to the guest about his experience and thoughts arise as asian, 202 7488001 for republicans. 202 7488000 for democrats. Ndependents, 202 7458002 for Muslim Americans who want to ask our guest questions, 202 7488003. , theus back to pakistan expense with the taliban. What happened and what influence do so much . Guest this was summer 1995. I had gone to a place called at that time, it was a stronghold of the taliban. The nerveit became center for the taliban, and the ruling council. When i showed up, i had no understanding of politics of the region. I did not know who the taliban were. I was not really paying attention to a lot of what was going on. Of theeard stories region. There was a war from 1995. , was walking about the area and the group that i had gone with was an apolitical religious group. They encouraged other muslims to be more religious. The idea was that the more you fast, the more you pray, god will bring about change in the world. Area, iing around the could see bearded men with turbans, ropes, and i grew nearer to them, thinking they were religious people. And i realize, they were armed. They had a lot of weaponry on them. A guy like me at that moment, coming from the background that i came from, seeking validation in the islamic context, seeking some sort of persona that would resonate with me, i was young and infringers, and saw these guys, and that was it. , even up to people today, look upon these groups as heroes from the days of old. Stories ut the and now, here i am. Enamored bypletely them. They presented to me a category of hero that i could buy into, so to speak. Host you talked about this and wrote about in your book, that taughty sense was only as a Necessary Evil of life, unlike how terrorist groups like isis now teach. Tell us about what you learned about the topic of jihad, and how you think it is practiced today. Meetinghe little means struggle. When it is applied in the context of combat, when you or strugglesombat, regarding your family, you personally, that is what jihad means. When you are struggling in war, or in a combat situation, this is the secondary meaning of jihad. For all intensive purposes, when you here jihad, it is referring to the combat form. Koran, anotherhe word means fighting. Jihad doesnt mean fighting, a main struggle, but is used in the context of fighting. This is what i learned. The taliban told me, in 19 a five, when you want to bring , you have to use this. He held up his ak47. As far as they were concerned, whether you frame out of the doctors selfdefense or offense of warfare, this is really the understanding of jihad. I just want to finish out the is a by saying that jihad war tradition. It is a legitimate war tradition with rules of ethics and rules of engagement. What people do today in the name of jihad is not jihad, it is terrorism. Shaikh, he is the author of undercover jihadi. Our first call for you is john. John is in massachusetts on the democrats line. Go ahead. Caller hi. Yes. I dont know if you know this or not. Im not that religious, but you might be. There was an article, and actually a court case, about one of your people. A woman who worked for abercrombie fitch. She sue them because of her religion. She was there for five years and they told her when things were unfair i noticed that you have a crucifix on your person. The next time you come back to work, i want you to hide your crucifix. And she said, i cannot do that. To make a long story short, she sued thecompany company, it went to the Supreme Court, and she won. The only negative vote was clarence thomas. I dont know what your background is in religion, but if you worked for abercrombie fitch, would you have sued the company . If we are going to live in a society that extols the virtues of religious freedom, and that religious freedom is taken away, and you are at a workplace, and lose your job because they are forcing you to choose between your faith and your job, they are going to be responsible for that. I would certainly take the opportunity to teach them a lesson. Host lets try an apple, maryland. Independent line. Nick, youre next. Caller good morning. I had a specific question about the tenets of islam and the muslim religion that led you first to justifying the jihadist theory, and what tenants of the religion led you to refute. Where did the shift in perspective comment. Guest i would give even algae that religion is like a hammer. You can either build a home with it or destroy a home with it. It really does come down to the perspective you have. The worldview that you hold. In the beginning, when i was young, angry, looking for an identity, some of venture, for me, it was the idea of being cool. I fell into it because i havent really had any religious training, but yet, i came to believe what the taliban told me because they looked cool. They were obviously religious people. Iey had beers and turbans, so thought, they are religious people, which is not the case, but that is how i thought. When i went to syria in 2002, after the 9 11 attacks, and properly, yougion learn the rules of interpretation. You did not just pick up the book and start reading. I studied how to interpret the book. The historical context. The literal meaning of words. That Contextual Understanding of the religion is what got me out of it. I would say a more superficial emotional aspect is what got me into it. And i would say that is what gets a lot of people into it today. The more intellectual approach got me out of it. Moderate were led in a in helping you understand what the koran said. Guest yes. My oldest son, his name is he was born in 1999. Youhe arab world, they call father, so father of your childs name. When i answered that i was son, they asked, are you a jihadi . And i said, yes i was. And this person started challenging me on my knowledge of the word. Thisid, lets follow up on after the class. He study, we will study the verses of jihad. He knew i was from canada and i would go back to canada, so he wanted to educate me. I spent almost two years with this in mind iman. We studied every verse in the koran the hat of this verse of fighting and construction eyes it and contextualize it. Host hussein from jamaica, new york. Thank you for calling. Caller good morning, sir. Brother, i have one question. , someone0 years ago asked a question. He said, god has chosen you. [indiscernible] what options do the palestinians have . Difference between systems . Jefferson said, give me liberty or give me death. Help me. Our grandchildren, our grandchildren. Do they have any option left . Person i was eight years old and i saw hindi in muslim women brutalized pakistan and india. Help me. What options do muslims have . What happened in the Central African countries. What options do muslims have . Host all right. We want to let our guest respond. You are giving him a lot of questions. We will let him respond. Guest thank you. Crusades was about the. When you have these grievances, what do you do about it . The rule of law is very important for us to frame our responses within. Even in the time of the crusades, when some of the abuses were taken place, solid return thatd not kind of violence. For example, one of the things where the christian crusaders withrow dead, rotting corpses over the walls, in hopes of infecting people, biological warfare. Muslims were always told that they did not respond with the same violence. This is based on a saying that says, do not allow your dislike for a nation to allow you to be just us to be unjust. This is also based on a profit that says, there is no harming or reciprocating of harm. Our responses must be framed under the rule of law. On the other hand, even in the International System of the rule of law, there is the rule of selfdefense. If youre being a victim from your home, persecuted because you believe in one god, then you can fight. This is something that is in the koran. Tomission is given to you fight. Those who evicted from your home and persecute you because you say god is one. In the worldly context, it is called the law of selfdefense. And killing coming you, you are allowed to fight. Paul on our line for Muslim Americans. The morning. Good morning. Caller im going to tell you something. 10,000, if the koran not 20,000 times. Im going to tell you this now. Mohammed was a terrorist. He wanted to be a terrorist. Read the koran. He said he is going to do whatever he has to do. You either become a muslim, or you die. Koran inread the the prophet mohammed is not quoted in it even one time. Meaning, he does not say i anything. Host from john in illinois for our guest. John, thank you for holding on. Go ahead. Caller hello. Guest hi, john. Caller hello. Yes. Is that humility and is love forhastity god. The federalist papers mention article number eight, 11, and number 64, which pertains to america. I believe that this is completely contradictory to reality. If you read the federalist , the American Revolution 11,based on letters eight, and 64. They say that the unity in mentality, and the revolution was based on this mentality. , and wethis mentality rollback to the mentality of the 1787 constitution. Host all right, thanks. Off of twitter, interviewer is militant islams beef with america specifically . Or, what is their problem with america specifically . Guest right. You have to frame it in a historical context. I certainly dont put the blame on the u. S. Alone. The sunnishiite divide has been there for years. You cant really blame them for that. Really, if you look in the recent history, you can go back 19 ets say we go back to 15. Subsequently, in one decade, if you look at the decades after that, i understand, the u. S. Approach. It is not really any different from the muslim approach. This is of a the muslims to Pay Attention to. We were also colonialist and imperialist. It is funny for me to see muslims criticizing what the u. S. Does. There is criticism for both of us. Coups in iran, setting a proxy groups in afghanistan, british,e russian, soviets. The problem is that they see with the u. S. Is doing, propping up dictators, dictators have the suppressed, dumb societies down, and then we point at the societies and say, they are not able to do anything, it must be because of their religion. Conclusion. Lse Saddam Hussein came to power by a coup. Gaddafi came to power because of a coup. , it is. Is politicking the otherslitics have not done. That is what takes them off. Hattiesburg, mississippi. Curtis, you are next. Caller i want to ask a question. Someone got on and try to explain the dues and the donts of the religion. I think it is a misconception that everyone is wrong about these people. Ok. if i und