Washington journal continues. Host joining us on the washington journal is dan stein , federation for American Immigration reform or fair. What is fair what positions do you take on immigration . Guest it is an organization that believeS Immigration should serve the national and American Interest and that immigration laws should be enforced and enforceable and we should set them at levels that the low enough level that it does not challenge domestic priorities or confound global objectives. Right now immigration is far too high, it is unsustainable and everybody can see impacts from all across the country. We want to bring it down to 300,000 a year or less and we would like to implement legal reforms to make sure every immigrant is legal. Host how many Illegal Immigrants can come in on a yearly basis currently . Guest a statutory basis would run 750 but is too high. There are administrative techniques in the last two years and we also saw studies the other day, the last two years were talking 125 million, legal and illegal, and the legal level is over 1 million and growing. It is growing because the Obama Administration has changed policy to change work visa categories and students are staying indefinitely based on work visas and that using other techniques to bring in people whether it is refugees, but basically to find ways to increase the number and it is exploding. Host what is the negative impact in your view of higher immigration . Guest we see it every day. Even at the most a sick level we have a national infrastructure. Highway systems going back to the 1950s. Anybody commuting in high impact studies can see Traffic Congestion has now dramatically increased to the capacity of our infrastructure. S Immigration is not properly managed, it makes every challenge the nation faces more difficult. Public schools are overwhelmed by foreign students, mostly illegally, and resources have to be divided among people of no right to be in the country. Health, many people coming, some legally but mostly illegally, we wind up having Great Health Care cost and we are allowing employers to bring in triple labor and there is a subsidy where we, the taxpayers, are paying for employees who want to use immigration to moderate wages. Wage growth is supposed to be one of the great recoveries but how does that happen if you are flooding the market with surplus labor . Most of the net new jobs created in the Obama Administration have gone to foreign administrative have gone. At a time when american citizens have been losing jobs through manufacturing decline, or because of changes in our h1b program, we see american native born label or force nativeborn labor force decreased. Essentially, if you look at every major u. S. Policy objective, uncontrolled and unsustainable masS Immigration we are trying to maintain is making things more difficult and no one wants to talk about it. [video clip] the fourth mess, that immigrants are taking our jobs. Lets look at the numbers. The number of people trying to cross our border illegally is near its lowest level in 40 years. It is near its lowest level in 40 years. It is lower than i was before i came into office, lower than Ronald Reagans time. They also start about 32 of businesses in america. Everybody thinks immigrants come here and they are getting all of this stuff from the government. Immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive and services. Most importantly, immigrants are not the main reason wages have gone up for middleclass families. Those are made in board rooms of companies where the top ceos are getting paid more than 300 times the income of the average worker. Deporting 11 million immigrants, not only is that a fantasy, it would cost billions of dollars and would be impossible. Guest i would love to have a beer with the president. During his administration, most of the net new jobs went to if you see wage stagnation policies that allow American Companies to fire workers, wage stagnation, if you see people impacted by immigration are the most of all ball hes as dont blame me, blame the ceos. He is trying to shift the blame. There is a law of supply and demand. If you increase the supply of labor from whatever service from whatever source, you increase the ability to bargain wages. You can see it in the wage data and the Labor Force Participation data. I have been here since the 1950s. They wonder why donald trump has been so successful in this campaign. The Democratic Party has made immigration a component of their political operation. If you want to control the border in mexico, Hillary Clinton says we are going to go to war with mexico if we put structures down there. If you take a look at Hillary Clintons positions today she is embracing this idea ignoring the law, bringing in people without regards to what the law says. People coming in from cuba, as refugees, from the middle east and elsewhere, they get cadillac treatment. When donald trump says we are receiving we are treating certain classes of immigrants better than veterans, he is right. In congress, when they had an opportunity to treat veterans better, do you know what the Obama Administration did . He used that money to pay for translators for refugees from african from afghanistan. Everyone can see how the administration has dismantled Immigration Enforcement policy for the last eight years to the point we have a totally dysfunctional government. Host daniel stein is our guest. We set aside the fourth line for recent immigrants. 202 7488003. That is the number for you to call. Caller as i speak, i am watching hispanic minorities cornering a young woman from last night at a donald trump rally, waving the mexican flag. Intimidation fear, that is making this liberal democrat, who has never voted republican in his life, i have no problem voting for donald trump. Host because of the immigration issue . Caller exactly. No, it is about american pride. Where is the American Flag . What about learning english . Doesnt that mean anything anymore . Thats what i am talking about. Guest this is an overt interference with the american rights to listen to candidates without burden or fear of violence. The respect for law is the cornerstone of citizenship. The policies abandon the basic principles. They become an exemption for violating laws of the rest of us have to adhere to. Why should anyone be surprised this agenda has spilled into the streets. One thing that ties us together is a highly the First Society as a respect for law and a common language. If you start tearing asunder the threads that tie us together you so the seeds for what happens. This election, there has never been so stark a contrast. While fair is not a democratic organization, the party has shifted to something unrecognizable, saying immigration on demand. People can come without limit, they can stay unless they commit a serious violent crime. Donald trump has told the wall street crowd screw you. This is a decisive moment. If you look at the democratic shift, a one dictator in california, that is the future for the rest of the country. The election is about a fight. Machine style politics and immigration go together. They are very easy to exploit. It cannot continue. Host the Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled fair as an extremist organization. Guest ride and fair can label anything you want. They have their opinions but they oppose fairs policy positions, opposes us in court. Host fred, huntsville, alabama. Guest caller this man is a breath of fresh air. We cannot take on everybody around the world. We needed people. If you put a glass under a faucet, it can only old it can only hold so much water. Then it will overflow. Take that inscription off the statue of liberty. Here is a new one. Dont call us, we will call you. Guest the president is wrong when he says crossings are at an alltime low. We know there is a surge coming from central america. We know these things because it has weakened immigration to the point there are no removals. People will come if nobody goes home. John kennedys administration we have not seen levels this low. How you expect to drink just to gain control, if people get the message that if they get here they never have to leave. We need reform of our court system. We need to make it possible for state and local police to work with agencies, to identify people, get them out of the country. When congress or states have passed laws on immigrations those who come illegally respond. There is a great responsiveness to this. There is a way to manage the flow. We dont have to allow immigration to become a political football for its own political power. It is about what we are and who we are as a people. It is legal immigrants who come legally, whose talent may expand our potential. What we have now are haystacks. Employers like exploiting immigrants illegally because they are subordinated labor status. They like slavery. On the left, because the Political Power Base of the party, you have organizations that see the power of the Democratic Party, but they are defending a greed agenda, it is destroying the middle class. The two are working together to undermine the American People. Host anne, california. Caller i hope god gives me the grace to talk as good as other callers, they sound so confident , they know what they are talking about. I think i do, but i dont know how to put it in words. I grew up ignorant, not knowing that i counted for a lot. Since i have been washing washington journal for all of these years i have so much to say. I dont know how to begin. Host our time is limited. Make one statement. Caller the one statement is, my family has been so affected by street drugs and doctors overprescribing. That is what i have been affected by. At the same time, i was so impressed with donald trump. He i feel i feel he is a good man trying to do good. I changed my party to try to vote in the primaries here. This man here is so informative about everything. Washington journal gives so much information and makes people more knowledgeable. Host thank you for calling. We appreciate it. We appreciate you watching. We look forward to hearing from you again. Is the wall season . Guest the Opioid Epidemic is a result of people smuggling pills over the border. There are fences now that were built, started in the clinton administration. The idea of their ears walls perimeters they are essential, absolutely important. The management of that border with modern technology can be done, along with a balance enforcement strategy, interior force event interior enforcement operations. Donald trump has people advising him. The wall is a surrogate for the idea that we are going to get the border under control. There are a lot of people hurting in this country. They are using their remittances to pay for the wall. What a stroke of genius. It is hard to imagine a more brilliant statement. He is a Public Relations master. You have to admit. Host connie, new jersey. Good morning. Caller good morning. You are talking about ignorance people, to vote. I wish this person you have on new something about history in the history of the United States of america. It used to be my it used to belong to my ancestors. All the jobs go out of the country. Every manufacturer goes to china , the philippines. That is the problem we have. Not the southern border. Guest i dont think we are giving taxes and california back to spain texas and spain back i dont think we are giving texas and california back to spain anytime soon. You did put your finger on an important point. The outsourcing phenomenon conceived in the 1980s was supposed to be replaced with information jobs. All of those went off site. The globalization has proved to be bankrupt for the labor market. The double whammy, outsourcing all of these jobs, and sourcing all of this foreign labor, never before seen in american history. This is not the level of immigration we had. Far in excess. To have this incoming foreign labor at a time when we are outsourcing all of these jobs. Everybody agrees nafta has not delivered promises it has said it would. You can see why it is a mix of policies. It is about time somebody spoke up for the average american getting screwed in this process. Host a tweet who is hiring the immigrants . Guest there are different categories of immigrants. People who come legally are usually people of merit and ability. They will be hired by hightech companies and others. People who hire other immigrants are going to have less skill and work for retail, Food Processing food manufacturing. The employer is not paying taxes, pays under the table, shifts the burdens. A lot of employers ought to be in jail. Frankly, the idea of immigration amnesty the president is blaming these employers but he does not have a solution. He says we cannot enforce the law, so we will destroy our ability to enforce it. He has never said he needs the money to enforce the law. Now, nobody is going home. Employers say they have to they do not have to worry about it. The system of exploitation is making it difficult for the average american to see. Young people under the age of 30, what is their path . Host patty independent line. Go ahead. Caller we need more people like you. I would go on the liberal sunday talk shows and get your message out. I am calling because i have two things to say. The Republican Party and democrat in the house or for the chamber of commerce, not the people. I read this story going around obama made a deal with ups to fly in refugees in the dead of night and they are supposed to keep this a big secret. Did you hear anything like that . Host where did you get that information . Caller it is on the internet. There are articles about it. Host have you heard about this . Guest not ups per se, but the administration has been flying in refugees by their own determination. To bring in people from central america, the middle east. They do it in the dead of night so there is no public debate. They bring it into communities. Anybody watching the president s soundbite can see he is not being up front with what is going on. There has been a news blackout. Our government bringing in people with no right to be in the country, doing it in the dead of night miners who show up at the border, the inability or willingness to detain families from central america. They deliver them to family members illegally in the country. This is a collapse of the rule of law. In june, the Supreme Court will decide whether the Obama Administration can ignore the limit set by congress and bring in people without regards to the law or limits. We are in danger. It means a road executives can bring in millions of people, give them our benefits. It does not matter what Congress Says or what the American People think. The Supreme Court is going to have to rein in the president. No one can show direct injury. That will is what they were relying on. The reason he did this act is because he was told no one can stop him because they cannot get into court. Hopefully the Supreme Court will decide to hold the injunction. There has been a total lack of candor about what the actual policies have been. Caller i dont think this is a bipartisan issue. My view is like this. When i was in the navy, we went to every thing that might mess up the aircraft carrier. We would know how to fix it and make it work better. It is my belief that the American People are being treated like people. With enough stress, the government and everyone looking will see how much stress we can test on the citizens of the country. Guest you are raising an excellent point. We believe there has been a social gap. What is happening is now huge. You see that and how the pundits misunderstood Donald Trumps viability as a nominee early on. They do not have their finger on the pulse. People are getting hammered. I love the idea of immigration. I know many immigrants are friends. It is a wonderful idea, but you can get too much of a good thing. History has not been kind to those countries that have crossed their borders. The point is, a nationstate to be viable has to control its borders. Our Political Class benefits from reduced wages. They dont care about the taxes. The average american is getting killed by these policies. Hillary clinton needs to address this. Bill clinton said we are a nation of immigrants, but we are a nation of law. Hillary clinton will need to move to the center of the immigration issue or she will be hammered by donald trump through november. Host laura is calling in from our republican line. Caller i agree with you. One of the things with the illegals that has me concerned is not every country they are coming from has a health care system. We are seeing diseases we have not seen for a long time. Remember the measles that hit in the disneyland area. If they come in illegally, there are no screenings. They are put in the lowpaying positions, which is against the law. They are putting in a food service line. They could have something that will be infecting thousands and thousands of people. Guest this goes to the commanderinchief. His responsibility to protect the American People. In this age, it is clear we can ill afford to have people running across the border. The United States, you have to have perimeter control. People are going to run into the country, trying to get on the system by virtue of the actuary getting on the system. These super bugs around the country are deadly and we are barely keeping up with them. The cdc has a responsibility in a responsibility in any to reco