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CSPAN3 Lectures In History June 22, 2024

New jersey, and california. And how they were often use to instill gender norms and racial divides. Her classes about one hour and ten minutes. Chatelain by former employer, the university of oklahoma, has had a lot of attention for a number of reasons. It is interesting. A group of students were caught on camera current camera phone rather, singing a racist song about lynching. The students immediately were expelled from university. By president david of university of oklahoma. Is anyone troubled by the singular action of the president . Is anyone troubled the University President has expelled students unilaterally question mark yes . I think these things come up a lot. In our Quick Reaction society where people are robbed of the right of due process. And i think particularly in the university setting, i think anyone would be hardpressed to defend their actions but not to defend their right to due process. Prof. Chatelain it is a scary idea right, that there can be a student can make a choice that has an impact on the community, and there are choices students make an university settings, and there can be such a quick response. One may argue if they had worked at the university of oklahoma that perhaps the response may be a distraction to other issues that are happening on campus and this was a strategic decision in hopes that would not be deeper digging into the culture at the university that may yield other issues. But im not saying that. So the question is how do we , handle a University Environment . What do we do a university . The nature of the video itself. Im reminded of the Donald Sterling incident. Both incidences, they are inexcusable that the same time it is raising the question of if they didnt know they were being filmed, where does your freedom of speech come into play. I dont agree with what the attorney did but it is troublesome that you could be saying something stupid, films randomly and expelled. Or lose your basketball team. Prof. Chatelain there are consequences to our speech public and private. Right . Our expectations of privacy can have consequences in the public. Right . But you have to question the structural question of what does it mean when a group of students on a bus on the way to a party that part of their entertainment, part of them getting their head in the party game is to sing a racist song on a bus . What does that say . Someone have their end up in the back . Thoughts about this . Yes. There was a reporter that made a comment about michelle obama. It was kind of, he made a very [inaudible] which is very offensive. He has commented on several things. So it is like where does that , come into play . Prof. Chatelain theres a sense of there is a standard as an employee that this is not ok. This reminds me of last semester. If you are in the class, a professor at the university of illinois fired for a tweet, that some perceived as antisemitic or antiisrael. And the university severed their relationship with him. What are the limits of speech and what are the consequences . Can we hold each other to a standard of being reasonable and respectful but do we need these other mechanisms . It will be interesting to see the stuff that unfolds. The students working on the issues at the university of oklahoma are fantastic. There is a lot of energetic students are saying their deeper questions we have to ask. We are also held to a standard on social media. It is not just tweets. Prof. Chatelain are the much bigger than the place and we are in . What else is going on . In the resurgence of black lives matter around the Police Brutality of the student, an honor student, and it made me think about our discussions last semester surrounding who is a worthy victim and worthy face to take up a cause, and even when you google him you cant find with mike brown you cant find anything. Now is the time. Prof. Chatelain university of virginia, it has been a rough year. The question about, i think this is why i dont like millennial bashing. People who do it our meet and mean and dumb. One of the things that we see throughout these different Campus Communities is a smart and very transparent way of thinking about these issues. One of the reasons why black lives matter and the Ferguson Movement has distinguished itself historically is that it didnt fall into this trap of this person was a bad victim and we are going to look for a good victim. There is a consistency of the question. Right . If we say black lives matter to we have to bracket which lives . It does not matter peace smoked weed and listen to rap music. The question of the person is about being treated with a level of respect. He was arrested by the alcohol abt and they said he was arrested for having a fake id. Even in the reports, if he did have this fake id this never would happen. Prof. Chatelain no id has been recovered. From what i understand there is , no fake id or there might have been. The question is what is a human , life worth . Lets say he had 100 fake ids with him. The brutality of the experience and the scale of these things is what is giving a lot of people pause. A quick side note. Im doing a teacher training. With people in ferguson and st. Louis. One of the things that was powerful is that a number of teachers said they were not allowed to talk about ferguson until november. A woman who works and lives and is from ferguson said only talk about rebuilding trust we talk about rebuilding trust were not just talking about the police, we are talking but educators. Teachers let the community down. The importance of the deeper engagement, and i think universities are being called into question, it isnt just about providing a quality education or providing access, it is a producer that represents itself on and off campus. One last hot topic. We can use a lighter one. Before spring break there was an article online. It was on yahoo and multiple websites. These two twins. One was black and one was white. They constantly get [inaudible] confused. Prof. Chatelain the twins. We will talk about this when we talk about caucasian. Buzzfeed didnt article. Here is an entire article of people who are related but not the same racial group. The point is, we will talk about the object of looking like one race or the other in the dynamics of the family. The movie you saw on tuesday touched on it. The author of caucasia is in that movie. She pretended she didnt know her dad and her sister when she saw someone from school because she didnt know what the reaction was. The last one, you can go to starbucks and talk about race now. So, we will be canceling class. And just going to starbucks to talk about race. Just kidding. Lets get started. For today, we are looking at the question of Sex Education. And susan freemans book is challenging our notions about the path as sexually repressed and conservative in the present as liberal and more open. I think what this text does, we talk about broader questions about the relationship between race and Sex Education, it challenges us to think outside of the box as a time in a dolt as a time when an adult is telling young people about sex it is necessarily oppressive. Anytime there is engagement about sex and sexuality it is always in a progressive lens. This complicates this idea. The first question i have, is Sex Education in the state interest . Why do we understand Public Schools having a responsibility to do Sex Education . Any thoughts . Yes . Considering rates of pregnancies, it is important if you are not getting education in the home, it is important the state educate you. At least you can try to prevent these high rates of pregnancies in high school and middle school. Prof. Chatelain they have this preventative task. We understand there may be a correlation between unplanned early pregnancies and social consequences. If i were to tell you the teen pregnancy rate is the lowest it has been in decades, would that mean Sex Education is working . Possibly, maybe . We have to wonder why. What else . Is it in the states interest to do Sex Education . Yes. With regard to contracting diseases, the state has an interest to make sure people are aware of things that could happen. That prevents having to deal with a major epidemic. Prof. Chatelain we understand it as a longterm investment. The health of the nation. It isnt just about pregnancy is about sexually transmitted diseases. We can extend it to healthy eating, benefits of exercise antismoking. The state has an interest in the health of its people. One of the thing that is interesting is when we look at where and how Sex Education is being done in comparison to these models in the books we find that perhaps the path had a more sophisticated understanding about the origins or the necessity of Sex Education than we do in the present. The states and red do not require Sex Education at all. With the caveat that in illinois there is some education that is not mandatory but you have to do Health Education. We have to provide medically Accurate Information on abstinence. In mississippi, localities may include contraception, only with permission from the state department of education. In tennessee Sex Education is , required if the pregnancy rate is 19. 5 or higher per 1000 teenage women. Ages 1517. We see this thing that we may agree is in the state interest. Right . But the mechanisms in which it is applied are vastly different. They are shaped by a political climate. If we look at the states that dont require hiv education, this is interesting. So can we imagine education about hiv as mandatory but education about sex is not . Operating the same place . Going further. States where sex and hiv education and provided dont have to be medically accurate. You seem bewildered. Yes . What is that . Are they looking for the medically accurate, states that are sketchy with articles. Prof. Chatelain what does any what does it mean about being medically accurate . Some states have taken a position about abstinence only education. One of the controversies about abstinence only education is the question about whether it is medically accurate. To say to the group of young people that the only way to prevent unplanned pregnancy is abstinence. That is not medically accurate. It is a true statement. Abstinence is one mechanism. It is not necessarily medically accurate. Why do we have so many fine definitions about the nature of Sex Education . Right . The last one, states were Sex Education if provided must include information on abstinence but not on contraception. Again we see the level of , specificity in a way that when we look at these models that have the origins of the 1930s , people are not thinking in terms of parsing what it means to provide Sex Education. They have a viewpoint and the perspective but they are not engaged in this type of definition because Sex Education had not become a political issue the way it is today. How many folks in the room went to a school in which abstinence only was the standard . Interesting. How many were to school where there was no Sex Education . How many went to school where you would say they had comprehensive sex and help sex and Health Education . How many went to school where there was any type of distribution of contraception . How many who raise their hand went to school in the u. S. . Very interesting. The last one, states where Sex Education of provided must include negative information on samesex relationships. We see another layer. Dont be ashamed if you are from these states. We are all different. I saw some hiding. How did sex get into schools . The first question that this book, the first idea that it advances we think about the past, we suggest that people were compliant until the 1960s and all hell broke loose. And people stopped following orders. That is kind of a dim view of humanity. That this idea that young people were so absorbed with the idea of conformity that they could just accept Sex Education as it was given to them until the sexual revolution. What she is saying is the relationships are more common. Even as Sex Education was an idea of normative expectations, young people were engaging this issue. There are questions of these ideas. And that Sex Education was a form of training. In formative relationships and heterosexual reality. When i think about this book i think about a 1957 facts of life and love for teens. If you want to borrow it you can ask me privately. After class. It is everything a teenager should know about life. One of the things that is interesting, it opens about sexual maturity and puberty and it ends with how much a wedding should cost. How to balance the budget in a household. It is a comprehensive idea that adulthood isnt about the physical changes of puberty and managing a sexual relationship it is about the depth and quality of the family relationship which is the Building Block of a healthy nation. Finally it challenges the notion that the path of conservatives in the present as liberal. When i was a young person in the 1980s, the aids crisis shaped a lot of the comprehensive hiv education that in some places doesnt exist anymore. People debated contents in debated condoms in school but there wasnt a question about Sex Education. Abstinence only education was not something you would find in a Public School but it was considered only part of a religious education. And so the idea that entire , states are using abstinence only education as the standard for Sex Education really does trouble this notion as a present is far more liberal than the past. Any questions or concerns or reflections . We will move on. Why Sex Education . At the core of Sex Education was this idea of gender, and how the content and methods are developed are these ideas about school as a place that has forms of gender imprinting. Right . What are the mechanisms. What are the ways that schools reproduce ideas about gender and roles . Yes, ashley. Ashley by determining who can and cannot go to a school dance as a couple. Prof. Chatelain very good. Every so often there will be the students banned from going to a dance together. Usually a samesex couple. What else . The separation of boys and girls during Sex Education. Which is interesting because when we look at the film clip of human growth that comes out of oregon, boys and girls together on the same information. We have this understanding of boys and girls needing to know different things. Prom king and queen. Prof. Chatelain the school dance. If i was elected princess or queen of all School Things i would abolish dances. Peer and total terror as a young person. What is the purpose of a school sponsoring a dance . Anyone want to make a case . As a productive social site . Sure, make the case. I will take a shot. It brings those relationships into the public sphere that can be observed and condone. The notion of some dancing that happens is frankly terrifying. You have chaperones who can leave room between couples and whatnot. It is kind of like, instead of letting the couples go to their houses, it is putting in the public sphere where they can judge it. Prof. Chatelain it is this idea of mediating the social sphere. A school that comes one of many social sites. At the very least there can be , some type of monitoring of it. What else . We could invite our brother schools over. Leave room for the holy spirit leave room for jesus. It plays into what he said, it brings relationships into the public sphere and then condoning it. Prof. Chatelain it is a weird kind of role. Right . I think it comes back to this conversation earlier about universities. Universities are not businesses. Right . We are in the business of forming young minds to be better citizens for our democracy and we have to have rules and regulation. Right . I think that there is this awkward space about is this different, but most of you are of legal age. You are 18 or older when you have this experience. So we treat you like adults. ,in some ways. And now there is, this is supposed to be a nurturing environment. Schools do the same role for young people as they are moving into critical spaces of maturity. Pre1960 Sex Education had broad support. Because it was based in normative heterosexuality and the family. This idea that there could be this broadbased coalition against Sex Education doesnt really emerge until the 1970s when conversations about local control and federal power start to become part of the discourse of school management. Now, when we hear local control and federal intrusion what comes to mind . I think of racism, Southern States trying to bring it down. Prof. Chatelain this idea of resisting brown versus board resisting federal approaches to School Integration by citing local control. Common core, banning of Ap United States history in oklahoma. This intellectual and social battle waged in the schools show us the importance of schools and sides of conflict and investing in kids in order to make a better nation. Finally, what she highlights in this book as there was no retrenchment or Sex Education during cold war due to concerns about anticommunism. Right . That you needed Sex Education in the schools, you need education about family life, or the communists would win. One of the ways communism was framed in the United States as negative or bad for bu

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