Transcripts For CSPAN3 Politics And Public Policy Today 2016

CSPAN3 Politics And Public Policy Today May 17, 2016

Like labor, they may have to cut Critical Community services to reduce labor costs. This is really unacceptable, especially for rural and poor areas that rely on Different Services provided by nonprofits. After hearing from many concerned workers and Business Owners, i urged secretary perez to extend the Public Comment period to allow Small Business owners and employees the opportunity to examine the proposed rule and comment carefully. Shortly afterward, the office of advocacy wrote a similar Public Comment letter requesting a 90day extension of the comment period. Unfortunately, all of these requests were denied by secretary perez. I have serious concerns with president obamas proposed changes to overtime regulations which will negatively impact the ability of Small Businesses and other organizations to operate effectively. While the rule is expected to become finalized within the next several weeks, its crucial that the administration reconsider their onesizefitsall approach. Now lets get todays conversation started. Again, id like to thank everyone for being a part of this discussion. Im going to go ahead and introduce our entire first panel and then each of you will have five minutes in the order in which youre introduced and of course can submit any additional written comments for the record. Ms. Tammy mccutchen serves as the principle at little mendelson pc, a law firm specializing in representing employment and labor law. Ms. Mccutchen also serves as Vice President and managing director of Strategic Solutions for compliance hr and previously served as the administrator of the division at the u u. S. Department of labor. Ms. Sarita gupta served with the union Rights Organization focused on workers civil rights. Mr. Octavio mantilla resides in new orleans and is coowner of the Besh Restaurant Group where he oversees operations of more than ten restaurants across the country. In addition to his responsibilities at the besh group hes a board member of the louisiana restaurant association, the louisiana hospitality foundation, the new orleans tourism and marketing corporation, and the john besh foundation. Mr. Ross eisenbrey has been Vice President of the Economic Policy institute in washington, d. C. Since 2003. Mr. Eisenbrey focuses on labor and Employment Law along with pension and regulatory policy. And ms. Nancy duncan is the association Vice President of Human Resources for operation smile, a nonprofit medical service dedicated to providing cleft lip and palate repair surgeries to children worldwide. Miss duncan is based out of Virginia Beach and has more than two decades of hr experience. So again, welcome to all of you. Thank you for being here. And well start with ms. Mccutchen. Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak with you today regarding how the departments changes to the overtime regulations will impact Small Businesses. Of course, of most concern to Small Business is the departments proposal to increase the minimum salary level for exemption by 113 from the current 23,660 to 50,440. The purpose of setting a minimum salary level for exemption as the department itself has stated since 1949 is to provide a ready method of screening out the obviously nonexempt employees. D. O. L. s proposed 50,440 level does exactly the opposite. Excluding from the exemption many employees who obviously perform exempt duties including employees found to be exempt by Department Investigators and the federal courts. Such a large increase is unprecedented in the 77year history. And using any reasonable method to set the minimum salary level yields a much lower number. 30,000, for example, the salary level if the department used its methodology from 2004, setting the salary level to exclude from the exemption the lowest 20th percentile of salaried employees working in the retail and the south. 32,000. The salary level if the department applied increases in the employment cost index since 2004. 34,000. The salary level if the department used its methodology from 1958. Setting the salary level to exclude the lowest 10 of employees found in dol investigations to be exempt and the lowest wage regions, the lowest wage industries, tsmallet businesses and the smallest cities. 35,000. The minimum salary required for exemption under the laws of new york. Also, by the way, the salary level if the department looked to the historical percentage of increases from 1938 to 19 to 2004. 42,000. The minimum salary required for exemption under the laws of california. Also, by the way, the starting salary for federal Government Employees with masters degrees. Instead of using any of these reasonable methods the department arrived at 54,440, a number higher than either new york or california, both high cost of living states with very generous labor laws, by using instead the 40th percentile of all salaries nationwide. It is irresponsible, particularly with the recent disturbing economic news, to use nationwide data that fails to distinguish salaries by region, industry, size of business or size of city. I am not suggesting that we adopt different salary levels for different regions or industries, which would be a compliance nightmare for employers. But i am stating that the minimum salary has to be set at a level that will work for highincome and lowincome states, for high profit low profit industries, for large, small, and nonprofit businesses in large cities and in small rural communities. The purpose of the salary level is to exclude obviously nonexempt employees. The duties tax in the regulation then come into employ once the obviously nonexempt have been eliminated. For 77 years it has been the duties test that serves as the primary method of distinguishing exempt from nonexempt, of identifying who is the exempt administrative and professional employee. Let me close with four quick points. First, thousands of Small Business owners and advocates and even more nonprofit businesses filed comments objecting to the proposed rule including the sbas office of advocacy, the National Federation of independent business and the National Association of women Small Business owners. Second, both the nfib and the sba office of advocacy concluded that the departments flexibility analyst grossly underestimates the cost of the rule to Small Business. I was personally shocked by the departments lowball estimate of the amount of time business will need to spend to comply with the rule. I would never tell my client my employer clients who spend so little time on compliance. Third the cost to Small Businesses will be even higher if the department decides to automatically increase the salary levels every year or to make changes to the duties tests. Finally, increasing the salary level to 54,040 or even the 47,000 that politico recently reported will not result in giving america a raise. Employees are unlikely to see higher paychecks. The Small Business owners i have talked to cannot afford to give a Salary Increase or pay overtime. So they must adjust in other ways, demoting management to hourly workers, requiring them to clock in and out, closely monitoring the hours they work, decreasing the flexibility to take time off for family without losses in pay, taking away bonuses and other Employee Benefits and depriving employees of opportunities for advancement. The one thing Small Businesses cannot do is redistribute money they do not have. Thank you. Thank you very much. And now ms. Gupta. Chairman vitter and members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today about the administrations proposed update to the overtime rules under the fair labor standards act. My name is sarita gupta. Im the executive director of jobs with justice. Jobs with justice is an independent, Nonprofit Organization dedicated to advancing working peoples rights and an economy that benefits all americans. We bring together labor, community, faith and student voices at the national and local levels through a network of coalitions across the country. At jobs with justice, we believe the fair labor act protections are central to insuring that all americans can enjoy the countrys prosperity to which they contribute. The United States congress and president Franklin Delano roosevelt recognized in 1938 what todays working women and men know to still be true, that economic stability can only be achieved through familysupporting wages and hours. If todays employees are to realize the laws basic promise of reprieve from overwork in order to spend time with their families, the flsas overtime protections must be strengthened and protected. We believe the u. S. Department of labors proposal to adjust the salary test for determining overtime eligibility will do just that. Raising the salary threshold from 23,660 in annual pay to 50,440 in 2016 will broadly benefit millions of working people, whether they are newly eligible for overtime protections or more squarely protected against overtime misclassification that can occur under the more ambiguous duties test. The current threshold covers only 8 of salaried employees today. Employers are even currently within their rights to deny overtime pay to employees who earn less than the Poverty Level for a family of four. Real lives will change for the better by updating the overtime rules. Real people like wanda womack, who earned under 40,000 managing a Dollar General store in alabama. Wanda put in 50 to 70 hours a week, most of it spent doing nonexempt work like running the Cash Register and unloading merchandise from trucks. Parttime hourly employees also stand to benefit from a higher salary threshold. Too many people who stock the shelves, sweep the floors and serve us food are working fewer hours than they would like. In our recent study of employers scheduling practices in washington, d. C. s service sector, 80 of survey respondents told us it was very important or somewhat important that they received more hours. Many of these individuals will likely have an opportunity to gain additional hours as employers shift assignments from overworked low paid salary employees who were previously exempted from overtime protections. As a nonprofit employer, i also have to assess i had to assess the proposed update to the overtime regulations. The proposed overtime rule update will require some of our local coalitions to examine and amend their employment practices. We believe this is a positive development. A higher salary threshold will require jobs with justice and nonprofits like us to promote practices that allow people to spend more time with their families, likely increasing Employee Satisfaction and lowering burnout rates along the way. This is good for our employees, for our organizations and for the people we strive to serve. I know some Nonprofit Organizations have expressed concerns about the proposed overtime rule update and the impact it could have on their budgets. I also know that much of the concern for nonprofits ability to comply with updated overtime rules have been raised by bigbusiness lobby groups that do not typically advocate for the interests of nonprofits or the people served by them. These concerns are vastly overstated, and frankly, they dismiss the rights of working people. Employees of nonprofits deserve a fair return on their work. I know firsthand that for nonprofit employees the work, while often rewarding, can be stressful, emotionally tolling and lower paying. These conditions only further substantiate the need for nonprofit employees to have time away from work to recharge and to reconnect with family and friends, just as was intended by flsa. Nonprofits that contract with state medicaid departments can push the state to increase rates. Many states revisit their medicaid budgets throughout the year since medicaid costs fluctuate based on the economy, enrollment, eligibility and other factors. The States Investment will be less than many people may assume. The federal match for medicaid spending can range from 50 to 74 , depending on the state. Regardless, no nonprofit should condone a Business Model that only succeeds based on its ability to take advantage of its employees through lax overtime rules. The flsa was enacted with the belief that americans should earn a fair days pay for a fair days work. Yet today the inverse is true for too many of americas salaried employees. Theyre putting in a fair days work for far less than a fair days pay. The administrations proposed update to the flsa overtime rules will serve as a crucial step to restoring the basic tenet of economic fairness, a tenet that should apply to all people no matter the industry they work in or the size of their employer. In the interest of time, ill reserve the remainder of my time for comments and take questions from the committee members. Thank you. Thank you very much. Now mr. Mantilla, welcome. Thank you, chairman. Good morning, chairman vitter and distinguished members of the committee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify today on the impact that the proposed overtime regulations would have on restaurants like mine and the concerns we have with some of the ideas floated by the department of labor for final regulation. My name is octavio mantilla. I am coowner of the Besh Restaurant Group. I am honored to share the perspectives of my company. Today my testimony will focus on some of the issues that my company and the industry have been struggling with in preparing for potential changes to the current overtime regulation. At the end of the day, i need to ensure that the Besh Restaurant Group is fully compliant with the law while remaining economically healthy and vibrant. The three main issues that i would like to address today include adjustments to the duties test being considered, the proposed salary level and the proposed automatic increases. I would also like to point out that the overall overtime regulatory proposal is adding to the tremendous amount of uncertainty created by the amount of federal regulations from the last five years. I was born in nicaragua. I moved to new orleans as a child. At the age of 16 i got my first job in a restaurant as a dishwasher and later waited tables. I continued to work and make my way up. I eventually moved through all managerial levels. While working in the industry, i earned a bachelors degree from Tulane University and an mba from the university of new orleans. I would not have been able to achieve these milestones without the flexibility that being a manager provided me. As a manager, while making less than many waiters, i had more flexibility to manage my work schedule and attend classes. The flexibility of being on salary was a big help to me. I would not be where i am today without opportunity. After graduating, i helped at harrahs casino and hotel in new orleans and then worked in st. Louis, missouri, as harrahs director of operations. I have opened numerous restaurants for harrahs nationwide. My story is repeated in our industry over and over. In fact, nine in ten Restaurant Managers started in entrylevel positions. Eight in ten Restaurant Owners also began in our industry with an entrylevel position. Doing away with the flexibility, entrylevel salary managers have to, among other things, go back and forth from work to school with diminished professional growth and opportunities in our industry. I returned to new orleans to be reunited with my friend, john besh. John and i became partners in Besh Restaurant Group. Since becoming johns partner, we have expanded to include several additional restaurants, one of them being shaya voted best new restaurant in america last week by the james beard foundation, modern israeli cuisine restaurant, with my partner israeliborn alan shaya, who also was an entrylevel manager. As to the duties test, it is clear to operators in the industry that any reduction in litigation the Department Seeks to obtain with the proposed rules increase in the salary threshold would be lost if the changes being considered to the duties test becomes final. A long duties test would mandate a percentage limitation on nonexempt work than a manager can perform. The problems with the long duties test structure are well known, also acknowledged by the department of labor in 2004 overtime rule. In the 2004, the department stated that the strict percentage limitations on nonexempt work in the long duties test would impose significant managerial requirements and recordkeeping burdens. In our industries managers need to have a handson approach to ensure that operations run smoothly. Any attempt to artificially cap the amount of time exempt employees can spend on nonexempt work would place significant work burdens on restaurants, increase labor costs, cause Customer Service to suffer and result in an increase in wage and hourly litigation. Just imagine a manager in a restaurant not being able to fill up a glass of water for you or having to write it down during a service period. Its just not possible. As to the minimum

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