Is and we arent addressing it. So you take revenue up and discretionary and mandatory spending are falling as a percent of the economy over the longterm . It is yes. As you know. I think we are finding places on the mandatory side where we are reducing spending and i think i wanted to respond to your earlier point where we are stopping spending, with 4 4 million of reduction in medicare and medicaid and prop insurance and programs. [ overlapping speakers ] and on those entitlement and Social Security and debt you take it from increasing 105 , to increasing 99 over the next ten years. I mean obviously that is the issue. So Discretionary Spending goes down, on both sides, they say this is great. It doesnt have more Discretionary Spending. It has less. It has less. For both defense and nondefense. Health care entitlements do go from 105 to 99 . But it is 7. 8 of gdp now and rises to 8 and it is scary because it is unsustainable so were heading toward record high tax revenues and they go to the highest level of gdp ever. And near record discretionary levels and other mandatories so we are talking about entirely these incredibly important vital programs that we have to save for future generations and if we dont do that, mr. Chairman well let down the people who voted us to represent them. Thank you mr. Chairman. Thank you. That to your relief concludes our questions for this morning. I want to thank you for agreeing to testify this morning. We appreciate your time here with us as long as the work youve done to write a budget resolution for congress by this legal by the legal deadline. And we now get to work on a budget resolution by the legal deadline of april 15th and i look forward to working with my colleagues on that. I want to remind my colleagues they can turn in questions for director donovan but they are due no later than 6 00 today. And they have to be in writing at the Committee Clerks office which is dirk son 624, and then im sure that director donovan will respond within 7 days. So with no further business before the committee, we stand adjourned. Thank you. As this Budget Hearing wraps up, a quick reminder that if you missed any of todays hearing you can see it in the cspan video line at cspan. Org. And youll find the president s budget request and the budget hub includes text of the budget and video from related events that weve covered over the past couple of days and all of that available again at cspan. Org. As this Budget Hearing wraps up a quick reminder if you missed any of todays hearing you can see it at the library. This is the 57th attempt by the house to repeal the Affordable Care act but this is the first time the bill language has called for a replacement. 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They talked about studying and res ensuring those who qualify. We are led by the Hatcher Group to promote hatchet groups at the federal and state level. Te weve worked with the eitc. Brin the eitc is widely regarded as en theac most powerful antipoverty groups yet one in ten workers p does not claim the credit. The cr and we talk about the vital role n to ensure every eligible worker but is able to receive the credit. In the folders youll find ve information from the eitc and i encourage you to visit our udgen o website, tax credit for eitc. So without further ado i would like to introduce a dear friend for the Hatcher Groups andrea leave leaver. N [ applause ] thank you, lauren. It is such a pleasure to be cohosting this event for tax a pl credits for working family. Im the president for eitc and people said it is my coming out day because i just came back from a major injury and it is myt day theme that this is a day about ba hope and what the eitc has brung to families is core of our h mission. That it iso not just about income but it is also about essence and our whole philosophy is that we want to help people build their future by being able to invest in longterm assets that help them live the american dream. I am especially grateful to my at dear frienhed lisa adams who m. Introduced us to kathy eaton and her book on the eitc. Those who read it can see it is much about how this works as really heartwrenching stories about how people make their lives work under incredibly difficult and challenging circumstances and all of us here are dedicated to Public Policies who make it easier for people to be the productive flourishing people we all want them to be. To be t we are thrilled to be hosting this event because the eitc and the volunteer Income Tax Assistance Program fits so well ho with our mission. Last year cfed took on a la portfoliost of work to advance policy and programs that aim to y provide low and moderate income taxpayers with new taxtime ally a opportunities and im hanny to recognize happy to recognize the new taxpayer opportunity tax work that recognizes organizes that provide tax assistance to gs t low income communities. This work builds on our experience with the assets and Opportunity Network which is a National Network that brings Work Movement oriented policymakers to expand the strategy Building Networks to every community in the United States. So im greatly pleased to bring David Rothstein to introduce senator brown who has been such a cham of both the eitc and vita. David, you may think we picked him just because hes from ohio and fi but that wouldnt be the truth. Even more importantly hes been a tireless advocate for expanding taxtime opportunities be foren low and moderate income americans, particularly as director of Research Development and Public Affairs for the for Neighboring Housing Services of Greater Cleveland and the other great thing about david is hes one of the few people in america ho who make me look shy. G abou so david welcome. [ applause ] following andrea is never an easy opportunity just given the energy that she brings. Leve sore thank you andrea and to lauren for starting our morning with so much energy and on the en point. It is such a t great pleasure to introduce our first keynote speaker senator brown who hails sena from the great state of ohio. Ay. My parents are overjoyed that im introducing a senator and my friends are excited that im with the program. And if i can touch on one policy that is not directly part of the policy this morning and it wouldd be to emphasize the importance l and of the growing of eitc and in professor eatons book she talksnd th about if families are paying sh upward of e 500 to get their g up refunds put on debit cards they are losing earned income and to being gouged. Tax preparers must be regulated and should provide good faith tax estimates before and not after the tax return is prepared and so im excited working with the tax Good Faith Foundation we introduced a bill calling for disclosure and including a fee that disclosure box going on with ats credit cards and prepaid debit ca cards. And more on point senator brown is a longtime supporters around lo earned Income Credit and he talks about the third child coverage and the long range coverage for married filing. Senator brown understands that working families need these for Economic Development and for achieving and growing assets. Se senator browns newest bill we are particularly excited about, ieving on target a for advancing eict dollars for families to share money not just at tax time. And if they do not use pay day loans it is particularly i exciting. In anoth when he was represented brown hebout ran a tax site out of his eit lorraine county office. There wasnt an active vita site a so he opened up his office to beeland. One. W for the past few years the senator has helped us with opening taxpayers to secure their eitc. Thank you for coming to talk with us and your staff who is your d alwaysed working on eitc and there is time for questionandanswers after so be ready to prepare those. So thank you. David, thank you, and thank you, andrea. I dont know what the injury was, but you look great. And doctor thank you to your contribution to this debate and to all of you, and chi ching d wong who has been important you talking to the white house and educating them and helping gideon in our office and others to the so thank you for your terrific ping work. This is my real voice. I talk this way. Ank i dont smoke, im not sick, i just talk this way. And this is a true story im voi about to tell you. My wife and i were at an event m in a room about this size but no tables and chairs and people were all sort of crammed together and this three or four of us were speaking for a couple of minutes took the stage and began to talk and this guy standing next to my wife she hadking f never seen before and he turned as i was speaking and he said i h hate thata guys voice. And she said really. Said rea and he said when that guy speaks, it is like fingers on a blackboard. And she rnaisaid i kind of like. And she i really like it when he a wakes me up in the middle of thesays i night and says i love you baby. Very my wife is a great writer. Her name is Connie Schultz so e check it out. And youll laugh at more things than i just told you. Chec and thank you, david. David is such a gem and important in northeast ohio. He has testified a number of t times to subcommittees that ive chaired that deal with financial issues. Hes now at neighborhood Housing Services in cleveland and has just been a terrific advocate for people who frankly dont have a voice no matter what it errifi sounds like and he is so valuable to northeast ohio and e no you can tell your parents that in your and your academic friends, you can tell them that our acad too. Andfr a year ago this month on a cold snowy day i went to a Martin Luther king breakfast and a minister there said something and we all know it is true and he said it better and he said your line expectancy is tha connected to your zip code. And if you grow up in latcha ohio or East Cleveland a very xpe poor inner city suburb if you will, or whether you grow up in Shaker Heights or in an affluent suburb, your Life Expectancy clearly is determined in many ways, quality of health care, here wor whether you get a good y education, social support necessary from the neighborhood y organizations, all of that. Wher obviously it shouldnt be that su way in a country this rich. D my state embarrassingly is 48th in the country in infant ats mortality. 50th for black immortality. Infan we are under invested in Early Childhood education and under invested in the safety net that does give opportunity and so many low income people in our state pay for it every day. It is an economic plight and 48 d that 6 believe the Economic System favors the wealthy. So well over half of americans he thinks the Government Works more more wall street than main t street andh for the elite and wealth in this country than for those who have little etter opportunity. Whene workers wages stagnate and lit they struggle to provide for their families, they have more lies problem. And when people do the best theytake can and when they believe the ponsib economy isil rigged against them we have a political problem and ca when the next generation of workers retires with little or no savings and no defined tires pension benefit any more we have an economic problem. That is why the eitc and the Child Tax Credit are so very, ha very important. You know its history. It is close to 40 years old now. Expanded by every single president. It has been it most importantly rewards work. The eitc expansion of the 90s of led more than half a million of single mothers to move from cash assistance to work and double to mo the resultsve of welfare reform, which i opposed when i was in the house and welfare reform clearly didnt do anything close wh to what it was heralded to do. We know whatever it did do thatdid the earned income tax credit did. Much more. It has lifted more children above the poverty line than any other Government Program n. 2012 alone more than 28 american in households, almost 28 million in my state benefited from the ople in eitc average credit 2800. And it is important that we tell stories around thesekn numbers. Let me do that. We can stand up in front of t people and talk until we are blue in the face about Public Policy but we need to tell stories about whom this effects and the effect on them. One alicia duran told me last nt year she lived paycheck to paycheck but getting the eitc is the one time of the year she canves p pay off her bills. Pril rose alee of toledo works as thefood manager of a fast food staura restaurant and maked 9. 35 and thousands of storyies like this stori have made a huge difference in their lives. Uge in the state of the union of the u address, president obamas best dress one, he laid out tax code by making eitc permanent and helps to save for retirement. If you work and live in this to town and live around these n this buildings, what you hear about town tax reform is almost always nd weve got to lower the corporate re tax rate. That is how the debate has always begun. But we cant let the debate begin that way. The president i thought, for the first time emphatically in his state of the union began to change that debate. Empha we are not going to have tax t we reform until we expand the eitb and make the expansions for ctc and eitc permanent either wise we dont expand the tax reform and not without tax breaks for working families period. O it is something we should work ons wit on. X brea we know in the past eitc and ctb, as my first bills in 2007, signed by president bush and a bipartisan bill. First speech, january 2007, justiparti been elected to senate, n presiding officer was senator barack obama and i stood up and when you stand up in the senate you address the chair and my first words in january 2007 was mr. President , and i think he in th liked the sounde of it. Any way. True story but probably not entirely true. My state of the union guest two or three weeks ago was jason jacobs, a cincinnati resident grew up as a middle working class kid. Got a kid to teach at Ohio University and he cant get a job and now working in the West ClaremontSchool District to the east of Hamilton County and made 16,000 and because he doesnt have children he will miss out on tax credit that will put money in his pocket. My and this would triple the size of workers without children and the wo expand access to Young Workers for and make enhancement of the youn workers that will expire in 2013 expanding the childless eitc is in our legislation that president obama proposed in the state of the union will lift 1. 5oposed i Million People out of poverty and help alleviate the poverty ce for np additional 10 Million People. For jason for even 1 of eitc the credit would mean about 600. So he is taxed further into poverty because hethe gets no help from the earn