professional wine growers. as he posts in the professional wine growers are glad to have the hobby event nerves working to keep the countryside in shape i think they would not be able to handle it economically the steep slopes couldn't be maintained without the hobby vintners and if the vineyards fell into ruin the tourists wouldn't come in and the commercial wineries wouldn't be able to sell their wines anymore. come on zog do you have to work daily or are there rest periods what happens for example in winter. as you've been in the winter the vines have to be pruned and the trellis is repaired and even then of course if it's minus 20 degrees celsius out and snow's on the ground that's when you enjoy your wine. but you have to have the time. i just kept saying the vine wants to see its master 17 times but there are different views on how to spread those around a year. if you know how many vines are you the master 830.