Transcripts For DW Conflict Zone - Conflict Zone Highlights

Transcripts For DW Conflict Zone - Conflict Zone Highlights 20181213 12:30:00


you know those people five minutes a minute. power and beauty combined. he has it all. it's in the pantheon of the great tenors certainly he's one for the ages. starts december twenty second. whatever happened to martin schulz. and all but i guess this week here in london strasburg called called here in berlin prime minister i'm not very good at beach you know i'm cosco morgan turkish foreign minister met lute travel scholer.
the chief human rights if you like i might just buy it if you like i say the question if you don't like you don't you don't buy this is the offer do you think it's seen your boss yeah i'm not the boy i'm talking about was you yeah i'm talking about the senior human rights official of the united nations who is concerned by arbitrary mass dismissals of civil servants and private sector employees arbitrary closure of civil society organizations arbitrary detention the use of torture until treatment during pretrial detention restrictions on free expression and movement arbitrary expropriation of private property those are things that he is concerned about not me he's concerned i'm talking about the chief security the right sophisticated or my people is more important than what he's saying and he's a biased person and there's a conflict of interest i know him very well ok and these people this associations.
long to fettle which also michel who's i don't know is for to the very end that i don't know is a terrorist organizations and i was a terrorist because people don't know because many western countries were very happy on that night ok because. he attempted the coup but he failed and in the morning many western countries who like him very much regretted that the coup failed therefore for you he is a good man but for turkish people which western country has actually for a quarter who has a good man and poor others and for turkish people and for many other friendly countries he this is a terrorist organization that's why many countries are closing their networks and the schools in those countries which guess which western country hailed the coup which western countries approved of the coup unfortunately the majority of which which was gaining an amy more than even that it may well be even if you can't date
me one no i can't give you which one which one of many european kind which one many of my loved almost all of you can't you can't give me one you walk a mile saying why nobody came to visit us after the coup you can't give me a single one almost all of them really yes and you can't give me a single name almost all of them you can't pick one you take one almost all of them pick one almost all are sentence almost all of the really yes. you want to nobel peace prize for bringing an end to the fifty year old war with fark president santos let's talk about the cases of so-called false positives in your army where soldiers massacred innocent civilians and pretended they were terrorists all this in order to boost their results and take advantage of bonuses and rewards thousands thousands of the shameful feeling thousands of dollars yes the government of colombia consistently played this didn't discipline from them and they told the un rapporteur in two thousand and nine the practice was not widespread and that such
unlawful killings were isolated instances turned out to be allied and they weren't isolated and you know who stopped those false positives i did i struggle for what they were taking later and you were defense minister well and that's why i took action and they went down to zero zero no more false positives and those responsible for false positive house they have to go to a transitional justice and be judged and condemned so then the i would say that. i'm like i'm with someone living in hong kong and someone living in cloud see our know what happened here and we know that we are here and why situation has been improving day by day and we certainly hope that we will order based understanding in the lashon will come lately is this misunderstanding what's
a misunderstanding it's a valid violations of human rights a little them a little bit i sent every country has them when you're talking about why don't we hear about the home and rights which only match i haven't been on so even though granted health care is problem has. even the rotten country they have pop up i'll help i'll sing with that yeah but we're talking about child africa he's got a ton of diverting to talking about the countries we're talking about our country who are part of job i'm not part of china yes i mean we are now at we are trying to improve our community every day just like other countries you know the methods that you are using which include forcibly pumping water into detainees stomachs crushing their testicles with clumps suffocatingly till they lose consciousness and applying electric shocks to their genitals are you proud of this and nobody should be proud of this should it be the case but what i think i'll make it up to that there has been a lot of improvement it in the type of interactions between as you know about india
human rights. situation is such that there is these issues with and stay directly if we don't take action then they will do come back to us and yes we need their support we need them to bring cases to us but i can assure you that certain strong measures have been taken on the question of strong measures. we're there to ourself with with all expect you're describing it that this is going on in throughout the country and we're oblivious to that in and we don't pay any attention to that that's last year you talk about strong measures last year according to human rights watch you failed to prosecute a single senior official for torture. is that how we're supposed to understand your strong measures against this practice. you're talking about the rule of law and to do prosecuting getting people to torture do produces use do procedures what is the
senior level that we're talking about this on details which has to be seen if we had the approach in europe but we would only be talking and dealing with like minded countries we would very soon be reduced to australia new zealand south korea and japan it's now we're done with like minded countries doing things that work well it was a different season is doing things that actually just the result you want but you haven't produced the result you want while rome wasn't built in a day dealing with the african continent is a hundred millions is how you are getting poured into these countries and going into the hands of repressive government you know it i know it but we both know it and we know that this has to stop and we have to fight corruption in africa but if you're trying to tell me that we shouldn't cooperate at all with african countries and you just say the match i didn't say that level this is what you're trying to no it doesn't i'm trying to say you need to do things that say about the results you want so lovely so you agree that we have to deal with those governments which are
in power but of course we will support those super countries with strong civil societies and those political forces who will be able to get african people the same benefits we enjoy in europe. you suggest that european integration was the reason part of the reason that the continent overcame the disaster of hitler and the cold war divisions but there is now what president macro calls a civil war taking place in the divisions over values like the europeans he said that in april the battle between liberal and illiberal democracies do you take that. i don't agree i like prince president much and he make impressive attempts to. get reforms in france done he's very engaged in european banks in europe and i agree that this i would
not i would not say here is voting in saying we are in a civil war and on bella's of the. there is of hungary and poland they've thrown the challenge haven't packed challenges because by the moment when the moment i am quite careful in always criticizing our eastern neighbors they have a different history so they have a different development they have different chances and what they don't need and what they don't deserve is that they are always treated not an equal level but say i was so have i was feeling that we from the vest on we want to teach them we wanted our you have to do is of no say we didn't have we wouldn't have chairman of the unification but the club has rules doesn't it yes if you are so keen on countries. as
a british you must must be careful to ask me on the rules of the collapse of the european because i will tell you so without the engagement and that and the courage of east european people in times of communist soviet empire we wouldn't have we wouldn't have enjoyed germany unification it was poland it was czech it was hungry all these countries and therefore we must be a little bit more generous to these countries of course we have children being in the opposite direction you can be generous all you want them moving in. my house running down a direct challenge hasn't he said brussels is currently ruled by those who want a european empire are directed not. to or bands that are. but there is a lot of the euro crowd approach migration politicians want to make sure you're making impatient is also respect quoting somebody once no wait
a moment i'm an old man and that's fast me too ok let's be quiet to quote some political leader. us with some specific quotes makes no sense and puppet is in discussion now didn't even reach you called only e.u. in twenty sixteen to back more projects you said that they should if you like showcase the benefits of membership that membership is worth fighting for it was up to the you to do that it isn't up to the it's not a beauty contest for the e.u. is what it's up it's up to you politicians to sell the idea to your people something a yearly you isn't campaigning to get you when you are campaigning to get it of course the thing is over but my very clear message was in order not to spend money from the e.u. on a lot of different small projects it's better to concentrate that to something
which is reasonable for people not for the political elite but for the people posing as have hundreds of millions of euros from the e.u. in a very small different projects which are not directly linked to the people too much . to the. legal framework and my message was to send the message to the ordinary people in order to promote that in order to have this press by the people and not by the politicians or with all the problems here with all the intimidation with all the corruption all the hate speech with all the anti press movements that are taking have been taking place here what if you got to offer me anyway why should be. corruption completely free if you feel that way it's better to i was only if part of the world and to leave it on its own so that's your recommendation damascus is not my accommodation my differently if you're. prime minister i'm
a veteran of which welcome to complex on thank you very much thank you for inviting one of the conditions for serbia joining the e.u. is that you signed a legally binding agreement on peaceful relations with kosovo which declared its independence in two thousand and eight you've never recognize that these talks come and go sometimes they're on sometimes they're off why should the e.u. bother with all this feuding and bilateral disputes that you have with kosovo or have too much trouble for the. i think as much as our interest is to join the e.u. i think the enlargement to cover balkans is also in the news interest i think first and foremost european union is a peace project and it's a successful one because we have for the first time in history a long term peace in europe when you say that but i know you have made it clear haven't they they cannot and will not import bilateral disputes junko dunker said it last year that's pretty clear isn't it it was clear they're not going to import your dispute with kosovo it is absolutely clear you don't settle it there you're
not going to get in and that is normal to me i think that's just natural thing to do i would ask that if i were the e.u. as well we should say year ago you advocated a united states of europe a new constitution for europe you said any country that didn't adopt it should have to leave the european union by this draconian stance who wants who wants a united states of europe these days me for example i wanted i suggested because i think many others really today in the united kingdom promote in other countries yes i think the united states actually poland hungary czech republic croatia other holland you think they want. and right wing governments in europe against deepening integration in the european union is not the news this is the case and i'm for sure proud not to share the view of mr mr country but if we want to run future times the
european union and the idea of democracy against people like mr trump xi jinping obviously put it we have to deepen european integration and not to redevelop the european union the kind of lose assembly of national states and this is my deep conviction and that's behind the idea of the united states of europe which will not be like the united states of america united kingdom or leaving the european union ok but problems in germany have to deepen their cooperation and there is one country of course that is leaving which is the united kingdom the loss of one of your major net budget contributors the fact is you're desperate for bracks to fail. you want to britain no b.s. i am desperate to see that the british people who have decided saw where a light in the end of it which i doubt you want them to be right now i won them to be right but i don't because that i mean when people are saying you keep you made
the mistake it's a terrible mistake it is a then zigzag wrong thing like you said something which i also said because i wished that they were right but i don't think that they were right why is there so little respect for a democratic to suit you it's the only select a serious debate so it's all they took at democratic decision it's all yes you live by it so why go on you but you go on telling them they've made a mistake one of except to wish them luck move on. we'll see how much luck will be there we'll see and you accuse them of cherry picking yes. miss the boat. but would like to have all the rights and nobody geishas from the relationship and the e.u. doesn't want to have its way though you want a balance you once a balance between mobley geishas and another seem to delight in warning that this is the underwear bomber that taken the light at all i mean i i'm just worried for
the british people i think of the british people stay in the customs union it solves the british problem solve the irish problem i can't understand why the british public would want to. support the close and uniting people like ken clarke and former you know. foreign leader of the tories a me that they have made sensible issues start to stand closer viewing is the right thing to do and i think in the end it won't be called the close in june and i think theresa may will probably try to maneuver a party to staying the course and going in as well or somewhere in the earth but you seem to blow hot and cold on this issue because one moment you say take the reason mayor to would you told the irish times last november she's confidently said she doesn't want to physical border the you don't want a physical border irish government don't and then you say in a recent interview you've got to play hardball with the brits now what
a different thing oh i guess i'd like to know i'll explain to you why theresa may said on the fifteenth of december. that she was quite happy to have a back stop at the wood and make sure it was no border at lest and train months later she said no british prime minister could agree backstop that she agreed ten to fifteen to december so meant to praise somebody for taking a different position in ten weeks if. theresa may is consistent i would be a first supporter looking back over the last two years you were part of david cameron's cabinet which approved this referendum why did none of you ever asked the kinds of basic questions that people are grappling with no what if what if we lose the referendum what is the party splits what if europe applies the rules what about the northern ireland border why were none of these questions thought about before her and why can't say they weren't there were thought about. well partly because of
the many of us campaigned in order to remain and it's difficult if you're campaigning for one thing to gaze into the crystal ball and answer every question that's going to come up i deeply regret the result but the result is here we in this country obviously had a fair and democratic vote difficult very difficult for people to accept but i think it is the right thing to do to balance those two now which is to say yes we are going to leave the european union but we're not going to do it in a way that is damaging it's not just a question of wanting britain to suffer although it's still macro. suggested that he thought they should suffer didn't know he said i mean in fact it shows us one thing it's not easy to access exit the european union not without cost not without consequences is that force well he wanted the suggestion is that he want to blow to pay that janet no the suggestion the imagine a fair cop meaning the e.u. is a complicated process i don't think that anybody on either side of the channel would
deny that would you do you know do you know anybody who would actually say that the the process of leaving the you is an easy one. well actually some people in this country in britain certainly said it was an easy one but they've been proved wrong do you believe in a last minute deal the two sides taking it right down to the wire just to show that they've extracted all the concessions i'd like you can find others i just like to make a point there is no one including the president in france who thinks the brits it is a good thing. michael oren welcome conflicts are going to be the kim you said in a radio interview on the sixteenth of may your army had no choice but to use live fire against palestinians on the gaza side of your border because two days earlier our soldiers you said came under intensive fire from those how must terrorists what kind of fire state or intense fire turns fire writer vehicles to submachine guns
and grenades and and roadside bombs but that's not the only reason our soldiers opened fire the principal reason was that there was a threat to the border and the soldiers are charged with defending our border from terrorists and civilians who have been driven by terrorists with the express purpose of breaking through the border killing our civilians and destroying our state the special coordinator for the middle east peace process warned you in no uncertain terms not to use the protest as a cover to attempt to place bombs at the fence and create provocations which are not how most operatives he said must not hide among the demonstrations did not happen no one what bombs no militants hide among the people all the killed people were civilians i dare anyone to say that there was one militant through the people they were all civilians they were from how mass said there what
we are from the state because you had normal people sixty people died that day fifty three of them were terrorists sixty seats. if i did i really don't want terrorism i just get through the not because you're going to you're going to get rain the minister civilians are not you're going to have some time to say this ok good the fifty palestinians who were killed from him as they were not militant and knows that there were many casualties and there were sixty two people killed and then tele sorry and sad about it and i also have serious questions as to what the appropriate. patterns of response to the illegal attempt to penetrate into israel is it necessary to use the guns they way they were used to snipers there were there were used you have reservations about the lethal force that was questions i have questions i have one does i have doubts. yes because the results speak for themselves that yes
how many injuries how many deaths on the israeli side if it was such a mortal threat to the state of israel no one certainly agency. no one sais that this was a mortal threat to the state of israel but that's the only condition under which you're supposed to use lethal force and so what do you used to do what do were you supposed to do when tens of thousands of people want to cross the border enter illegally into country what do you want to do what can you do what would you do what would you do in your own country had thousands of people from another country from a hostile country from an unfriendly country try to penetrate into a country would you not try to stop it how to do it exactly what it is the amount of force you can use is a question that there needs to be asked at the end of the day don't pretend to argue and i hope you don't. that the other side is made of n.g.o.s
and asking my really colleagues if we can or so much as israelis and palestinians nobody else will help us the surgeons are required from me and the israeli americans should bear in mind that some of you to sit down with the americans or the american here are they do not use no peace process now to what what shall i sit with them to do feel at peace and in meetings they refuse to see the two states where sixty seven they moved their embassy they closed their consulate we're stablished in eighteen forty four in what do you do still in your out of ideas not everyone i know how come i don't think i'm going to decline my i'm going to plan it so answer me this military plan if you would make an issue for them to decline my feet ok because of the everything humanly possible to make peace at the end of the day donald trump is telling the palestinians you don't have a capital excuse me jerusalem is not yours it's not for the christians event it's
for the israelis you all don't have an option of a palestinian say that he says either by they said that he said that they are not not he said recruiting no me they said unfortunate on that he said to lose all the boundaries and choosing them he hasn't said that no he said jerusalem is the capital of their jewish people he didn't say jerusalem is a palestinian he said it's not talking about our history of second of it and it shows we be here did a big mistake by saying it's a capital for a jewish people this is wrong we didn't come to this building to the country. to let you know your garden variety anti semites destroy us and we don't care if a garden variety anti semites in the world have a problem with it we're going to do it or to defend our border in the south we're going to fend ourselves against iran going to pursue our interests that's why we're here that's why we have a sovereign jewish state like a lot of good to have you always thank you very much. to
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