called the proposal on realistic he made the comments at a joint press conference with his german counterpart heikal mohsin ankara. blasted germany over its criticism of ankara's offensive against kurdish militias calling for more solidarity in what turkey sees as a fight against terrorism the german foreign minister called for a lasting cease fire in the region and he urged turkey to comply with international law when dealing with refugees moscow's visit comes amid bilateral tensions over turkey's military campaign in syria. well for more on the story i'm joined now by our foreign policy editor status or darr here in the studio with me and turkey correspondent yulia han is standing by for us in istanbul hello to both of you yulia i'd like to begin with you tell us what came out of that meeting between the 2 foreign ministers. well tensions were