a shadow effort by the trump administration to conduct policy that's not in in the interest of the united states but to further donald trump's political own political agenda and so i think the testimony today particularly the moment where the chair of this committee adam schiff read out a tweet highlighting the president once again trying to intimidate mushy of autumn which to me really highlights the challenge that we have in washington i want to pick up on some of that with nick because nick the former and void was branded bad news by the president who discredited in ukraine. is that an opinion that has been held in circles that way you are is there anything to back up those claims. well helen marie ivanovitch was very well respected here in ukraine she was someone who understood understand this country very well she'd also been posted so ukraine and join a junior role before becoming ambassador she was outspoken in her criticism of