Gets it, well, although, as you know, he initiated a referendum on brexit, then lost, so sometimes it would be better not to convince, i say this with respect to him, i know him well, without any, without any sarcasm or some unfriendly trolling, will he be able to convince someone in congress, well maybe a few critical congressmen, yes, i would very much hope so. I also have a feeling from talking to my friends and acquaintances there, that well, if not by the end of this week, then by the end of the next, well, plus or minus , we will have some minimal clarity there, they are repackaging this law there, someone says lets divide it again into ukrainian aid to israel, and what to do with taiwan, there are still nuances. In addition, part of the republican congressmen, they want to hook some with a locomotive there a credit element, some kind of credit component and component to show this to your voters, that is, to create such a hybrid, aid is aid, but partly credit, there are discussions about the economic part of the aid, well, there is more or less the military part, in my opinion it is progressing positively. Well , the republicans certainly want to hitch something there with a locomotive, without this, no way, and now they want to hitch the cancellation of restrictions on the export of liquefied gas. The question is not easy for the democrats, i think that it is not particularly a question for biden either i like it, i wouldnt say they forced it, but somehow, somehow they put it on. Its a question for him, but for the left such a progressive part of the democrats, its such an important issue from an environmental point of view including, so how will they play there, democrats, republicans, plus there are various weirdos still trying if mike johnson, the speaker of the Congress Goes go ahead with these proposals, somehow drop it, although what i hear. In the event that there is an agreement of such a thing between the democrats and the republicans, then the democrats seem to be ready mike johnson, lets say, support, lets use a better verb, protect, thats why im so moderately optimistic, but that doesnt mean that something wont change tomorrow, ive been following the congress for the last three months. And i have the feeling that something is happening there every day, i dont know if they are taking this example from us or from someone else, but politics in the congress is becoming more and more interesting and more and more unpredictable. So you mentioned david cameron, what he already wrote on twitter, me found this tweet, or rather on the social network that he writes, he met with Antony Blinkin wrote the United Kingdom and the United States. United in supporting ukraine against putins aggression, we stand up for freedom and democracy when they are threatened, and blinkin and i Work Together to maintain Critical International support for our friends in ukraine, their support is at the heart of what we both speak, if i translated correctly, at least, it is normal, well , what is written in official sources, you you know what is written is not always with. Everything that is discussed, but davids presence in the states is a cool story, he is known as such a balanced conservative, balanced. He has the opportunity to talk to both democrats and republicans, so if he succeeds in something, we will only applaud. Thank you, mr. 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Next, we are in touch with ivan stupak, military expert, former employee of the Security Service of ukraine. Mr. Ivan, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. Good evening, studios, thank you for the invitation. Well, first of all, lets talk about strikes on russian territory, since ukrainian drones attacked that night. Aviation Breeding Center in the voronezh region, it is reported that there is i Training Aviation center, there were production facilities there, it was in the city of boris aglebsk, the Main Intelligence Department said that it was their special operation, or rather , some anonymous people there confirmed, hinted that it was gur who worked, how do such strikes affect russia and do they affect , if. Have a weak influence, what do you think is needed, mr. Ivan, for them to have a stronger influence . Oh, what a great question, the impression is that i work in the office of the president , responsible for all all all these blows, or there, i dont know, in the general headquarters look, well, okay, you and i are thinking here now, and immediately with your audience respectfully share your thoughts, they have their thoughts, well, i think you will have a discussion there in the chat, a discussion, of course, it is important to choose goals. Isnt it, the goals in the Russian Federation are simply, as i say, a wagon and a small cart, well, there are many, and everywhere, and political goals, and economic goals, and military goals, many, many things, but our resources are limited, if in we were talking about, i dont know, 1000 drones per month that we have, then it would be possible sit and pretend, lets give here 100, here 200 and here and there 400 and here and there the rest that will remain, we have a lot of drones. It is more difficult for the russians to have air defense , there is electronic warfare, there are mobile patrols like ours that shoot down drones that fly by, so so far i see that really the best targets that have been chosen are oil refining facilities, oil refining complexes, Bulk Terminals , which are destroyed, because it is fuel, fuel is money, except that fuel is the blood of war, money is also the blood of war, it is revenue. To of the russian budget, this is the payment of russian soldiers, this is the circumvention, well, salaries, this is the circumvention of sanctions, the purchase of various electronics, with the money that comes in, so the destruction is an occlusion, we are already seeing the first such careful results, so they are not yet obvious, but 14 approximately of the russian oil and natural complex has become disabled, that is, it has been damaged or disabled for a long period of time. And the russians, that they are already starting to reserve their own fuel resources at belarusian refineries, plus they have booked in kazakhstan 100 00, they asked, or rather 100 00 tons of oil products in case the special operation does not go according to plan, well, in that case, the question here is whether kazakhstan will be able to provide such a quantity of fuel, it is in question, it is not clear, so i think that the next goals should be to be, apart from, or rather, apart from the refinery, the container. With fuel that has already been produced and is stored in the form of a reserve, a reserve for a rainy day. Such objects, i think, they will also become objects for our hitting, except, of course, purely military objects, purely military airfields where carcasses, drying, birds and so on are located. Our western partners are quite stingy, to put it mildly, quite stingy, but they give weapons, longrange weapons, they believe that the ukrainians can. Strike on the territory of the russian state and then the russians can fly to them, they still, on your opinion, they hope to find some Common Ground with putin and. The russians, because if they say that russia must be defeated, or rather, they say that ukraine must not be defeated, well with from which i conclude that russia must obviously be defeated, or do they want this war, conditionally speaking, to end in a draw, and they are again friendly with the russians, and therefore these weapons do not reach us, although it is quite obvious that such weapons are now necessary to defeat the russians. Well , now i heard part of the conversation with the honorable pavel klinkin and where he says that now the American Parliament has turned into, well , almost like ours, it is also not foreseen when they will vote, hell knows if they will vote at all, well, the only thing is that it seems that there are no outspoken people corruption scandals, but Santa Barbara is really interesting in them, there is such a big drag, soap drags on in them, and there is such a big concept that the United States is afraid, well. I dont know, it is appropriate to use the term afraid, wary, afraid, tense about the fact that the Russian Federation, well, of course, this is a retaliatory blow, this is a direct confrontation, the americans have something to lose, the russians, well, look how they live in the mud, well, in the mud except for moscow, of course moscow is there in gold and in stones and stones, thats all the rest are scumbags, that is, they have nothing to lose , the way of life of americans is built in such a way that everyone uses the dollar, new york, las vegas, everything is there. Yes, well, they wouldnt want to lose it in the ashes of a nuclear war, thats what theyre afraid of, of course, but to put it more pragmatically, its the potential collapse of the Russian Federation, yes, it would be cool for us, its the dream of every average citizen of ukraine, that russia is disintegrating into 100500 different separate principalities, and there they are all fighting, all shooting, raping each other and everything, but there everything is sid and gomorrah, we would really be interested in this, but the americans look at it from a geopolitical point of view. What they are afraid of is that the weapon is a classic conventional weapon, that it is like in the 90s, it will begin to spread to the middle east, to african countries, to fall into the hands of some i dont know, middle eastern, far eastern terrorist groups, and then it will turn against American Military personnel, american citizens everywhere, all over the globe, they dont like it very much, even more they dont like falling into the hands of some incomprehensible traders nuclear weapons, components of delivery vehicles, some missiles and the potential creation of, for example, or a real nuclear bomb by some other countries other than those that are, and also the creation of a dirty nuclear bomb, what is a dirty nuclear bomb . I will remind your respected viewers, this charge, an explosive, is something small, conditional in a backpack in a suitcase. It explodes, there is no chain reaction, there is no mushroom, there is no light, it just explodes and radioactive materials fly away, and there in the zone of damage of this explosive device is a geiger brush goes off the scale and i dont know there , no one will be able to live there for 500 years, but the americans are really afraid of this, that they can detonate this bomb somewhere in the manhattan or wall street area, that is , it is a very big fear, fear, and thats why i think that this is all in complex affects whites position. Well, they are also afraid that the russians may commit, as they say, dangerous actions at the Zaporozhye Nuclear power plant, just a few days ago, the russians reported that two drones were launched into the dome by ukrainians , apparently there in one of the premises of the zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power plant, the spokesman for the department of the United States of america, Matthew Miller , said that yesterday. This drone attack the day before yesterday on the military did not endanger nuclear safety, but warned russia against dangerous actions. Lets hear what Matthew Miller had to say. Russia is playing a very dangerous game by seizing the ukrainian Nuclear Power plant, which is the largest in europe. This is dangerous, and we continue to call on russia to withdraw its military and civilian personnel from the facility, to regain full control above the station to the competent ukrainian authorities and to refrain from any actions that could lead to a Nuclear Incident at the station. Mr. Ivan, all over the world they dont talk to terrorists, they dont urge them not to do what shouldnt be done, terrorists are usually destroyed, because, well, thats how its always been, except that there are now some terrorist groups warning against terrorist acts, why. There is no black and white in the world now, well, there are terrorists and aggressors, there are victims of terrorist acts, if. Terrorists capture a nuclear object, these are Nuclear Terrorists who are blackmailing the entire world, not even ukrainians, and well, in this situation, when the zaporizhia Nuclear Power plant has been in the hands of the terrorists who seized it for two years, it seems very strange that they are somehow trying to convince them there , warn, you dont need to do this, be careful there with the reactors, why doesnt the world take a hard approach to nuclear. Terrorism, because if some other group, not a terrorist state russia, was created, then probably that terrorist group would be put there im in some a very short time . Lets break this issue down into components, lets eat this elephant piece by piece, and yes, i understand your point, well , terrorists, what negotiations with terrorists should be destroyed, well, the Russian Federation, it is not a terrorist, it is an aggressor country, well, lets define once, in secondly, it is a problem of ukraine. We lost control over our facility, this is not a problem of the United States, this is a problem of ukraine, this is not a problem of india, china, this is a problem of ukraine, ukraine will solve it. Ukraine has forces, resources, means, there are no opportunities. Secondly, if we use the term that the Russian Federation is a terrorist country and there, well, they should be treated as such, then the big difference is that when the United States confronts a terrorist group, for example, the taliban in afghanistan, then they use what. Navigation, there are ground forces, there are large cruise missiles, and the taliban use terrorist tactics of shooting in the back. Plus the nuclear triad, what is the nuclear triad, this is the air force, this is the naval force that can carry a nuclear warhead, the ground force, these are the big mines where they are opened. Its a Strategic Nuclear warhead out there , it can fly 510,00 km, and its aviation, aviation that can carry nuclear, Nuclear Warheads, and the Russian Federation, as a terrorist country, it surpasses even the United States in terms of Nuclear Warheads. The last known figures were approximately 6,000 Nuclear Warheads in the Russian Federation, in total. And roughly somewhere, well, i was parity by the United States for 1500 times inflicted ee. In an active state, that is , it is very difficult to deal with such a terrorist, it will simply threaten a total nuclear war and the end of humanity as such, against the background of this terrorist antiterrorist hysteria in russia, when they accuse ukrainians of being involved in what we have even already financed these terrorists there, who. Committed a terrorist attack in crocusity hall, they are already saying, today already there, a russian spy began to say that the burizma company is there, to which, by the way, hunter biden was involved, do you remember this story, a long story, and trump once convinced zelensky that lets activate the case before the last president ial election, then this whole story almost ended with the impeachment of trump, and then they dragged burism out of it, shake, show, you see. Chiburism financed these terrorists, they were supposed to take this million rubles from kyiv, these tajiks who drove this unfortunate car from moscow, what do you think, this is what they are already tying both biden and bidens son into this, it designed for the domestic consumer exclusively, do they still think that some countries there, well, i dont know, the global south or there, maybe other countries, that they can take this. Information seriously, apart from convenience, because well, this is burizma this is true, maybe this is one of the last known cases when the United States crosses ukraine, well, it is very serious, and what can be used by the Russian Federation, this is how they bring in these tajiks, you rightly said about a million rubles, i just wonder, where they are quite understandable, this is such rhetoric, but where did they try to find these million rubles in kyiv, well, you can find a Million Euros like that, you can find a million dollars. You cant even find them in an antique shop in kyiv anymore, because they burned them there everything, here is a question, here they are somehow crossing these United States, they are behind this in the sims and here in ukraine, i am interested in u