We found the glitch. There are problems, and we need to get them fixed. Charles welcome, everyone. Kneele will be back on monday. You know, that sounds a lot different than what the president was saying. Launched a when he urged people, just be patient. Like every new law, every new product rollout, there will be glitches in the sign up process along the way that we will fix. Consider that just a couple of weeks ago apple rollout a new mobile operating system, and within days they found a glitch. Charles never taking responsibility for problems and mistakes. Former ceo of verizon wireless. I have to tell you, that is the thing that strikes me. I have never heard a medical power from these guys, just one. Everybody makes mistakes. Great to be with you. This is an administration that overhe course of the last five years has never taken accountability for any single issue. You know, it does not surprise me. What surprises me is that they cannot find some way or another to place blame on the Bush Administration for the rollout of this health care system. Charles no wonder for the first three or four years when the expert to Expiration Date on the blame bush thing. Now that i hear in articulating for everyone in the administration and the entire party, this debacle has ruined the economy. Charles i think in almost in the world, the business world, the sports world, you could not be cut to the team that fumble this much and still have the job. But here is the thing. They get away with it. Well, they do. But if you think about this in particular and the costs to the american taxpayer of implementing obamacare and this rollout, this is crazy. This is over three times with the planned cost was. I mean, how do they continue to do this and get away with it . I have no idea. The American Public should be focused like a laser beam on this issue. Charles we have covered this all week long hell, perhaps, the gop might have just shot themselves in the foot because this certainly should have been on the front page of every newspaper you cannot yet on. This is an unmitigated disaster. For sure, but this, i think, a little bit from my background, i will tell you that this will last a long time. There is no quick fix to this issue. And i think charles what about the idea, three years. It was passed. The Supreme Court green lighted 600 million. What about the idea that, i guess, fixing it will take a long time, but it should have been ready to go or at least almost ready to go from day never won. Someone in the government was responsible for identifying the specifications that were required for this system. The contractors by the way, the contractors would get the complete blame on this unfortunately. I can see it coming. The specification for the system had to be dead wrong. You cannot be this far off from what your goals are in implementing a system. This is hard to do. And it is what happens when you put bureaucrats, government bureaucrats in charge of something that takes a bit of Real Intelligence and overall out that should have been smoothed. Charles before i let you go of one to segue back to the economy. Obviously you have a big role in horizon, on the board of several companies. How are you feeling about the economy overall . The last jobs number would have been a pretty paltry number. I am disappointed, but what congress chose to do a couple of days ago was to kick the can down the road once again. This is for how many times in a row that we really have not gotten to the underlying issues of what is holding up the economy. It is obamacare. This concern about taxation. You know, we have not even seen the beginning of the tax impact of obamacare. When people do there tax returns next april and find out that there is a three and a half tax on their investment in, you will see an up or like we have never seen before. Charles i think youre right. Thank you so much. More problems piling up on health care website. Reports that Health Insurers are getting information and riddled with mistakes making it impossible to process applications that are actually the few that are making it through the system. At least south dakota and wisconsin do not have to worry. They dont need a super computer to handle the combined 70 people that enrolled in those states. Former spokesperson for president bush 43, the Health Care News is getting worse and worse. Seventy people combined for these two states. Especially when the white house goal is to get to 7 million enrolled. Enrolling in the first year. That looks very unlikely right now. Obviously what were seeing is that the Obama Administration has failed and refuses to red meant that they are that the system is just so broken. I mean, they talked about glitches, but it is just not enough. They paid the Companies Millions and millions of dollars. Yet they decided to instead of dealing with the political backlash of delaying another component of obamacare, they just decided to roll it out despite the warnings of the i tea experts. Charles you know, i have to tell you, glitches aside because i think the bigger issue is the fact that once people get through and see what the options are and see that the sticker shock is going to be insane, 36,000 in the first week. Math,l cover 30 Million People as advertised. 833 years. And youre also talking, the first week, for emple, less than half of 1 percent were able to enroll in the program. That came out by a nonpartisan Research Group. Again,hat youre seeing is americans are becoming discouraged. You saw the numbers plummet. 88 percent plummeting because they could not get through the system. You see these numbers happening, and youre wondering why we dont have someone with accountability and take the blame for what were seeing as a poorly designed system with poor architecture and the fact that at the end the americans are not definite benefiting because youre seeing single dads that have to pay double the premiums because theyre not offering the solutions that are needed. Charles i kind of think the old saying, you only get one chance to have the first impression, it is like will smith repackaging the movie that he had earlier and coming back now with that at christmas. People are not this is their only shot. This was the shot. I cannot see it getting any better than this. Thats right. I would say if you have the cabinet secretaries of land of, i am sure the secretary would be the first to be fired. Charles youre right on that one. If she did not have the good graces, maybe she would fire herself. Thank you. Have a great weekend. Actually holding a hearing about all of these glitches. Next week. My next guest is angry. We just talked about her. She made an appearance on the daily show. But so far she is refusing to come to capitol hill. By the way, we contacted the Health Department for comment. Soso far we have not heard back. Welcome to the show. Robert gives gives an interview on msn bc. More less he throws kathleen sibila is under a bus saying that someone should be fired. Everyone knows that he met her. She goes on the daily show. She does. I think she should come up to capitol hill. If she has time for that show i think she should have time for the american. Well that she comes to a hearing on october 24th. Neil here is the thing. I have seen members of the administration who have come to the committee hearings. They really seem hospital. They dont seem to be cooperative, and it seems like nothing is accomplished and it fades away. I do not think that this will fade away. That is obviously why we wanted to delay the individual mandate. This is been a disaster. You would think that the administration in the singular issue with which it is proudest would have a rollout that is effective. Instead it has been a complete disaster. Charles it is amazing that the media would call this a success even before it was rolled out like him getting the nobel prize a little early. So far it is his signature accomplishment, it is not level. This is not an accomplishment. I agree completely. Should we be taxing people for not purchasing a product who when they cannot find it on a website that does not work . Charles a lot of young people especially. People tried. They got along. They tried. It did not work. Even once they got on they did not take the bait. I am suspicious that the registration process is so complicated because the Administration May not have wanted the public to know in browsing with the sticker shock was going to be. Charles there were smart enough to make people register first. Maybe they should have made a list. It seems to be pretty popular in washington. People might have seen the prices and clicked off anyway. I agree with that. When you and eyebrows on the internet, may be purchasing a shirt, we dont have to register we just do it. Charles i meet him if we did we would not buy the shirt from a particular website. I really do hope that this works out well for you in the American People. Again, we have watched the irs hearings and other hearings. It feels like the administration , they just dont have enough respect for congress right now to even do this the right way and the honorable way. I hope it is different this time i hope their is a mutual respect. What the secretary of health and Human Services to come to the committee and ask legitimate questions on behalf of the American People. Charles it is an admirable goal helping people get Health Insurance is an admirable goal and there probably is as far away do it. Thank you. Coming up, from the shutdown to the slammer. Gearing up to get republicans locked up. The conspiracy alleges that they might just make you fed up. And also, the furlough, government workers are getting back pay. Taxpayers are picking up the tab. Businesses to lost money are not getting a penny. That is what has larry mad. And, well, you dont want to get this come one at. Bny mellon combines Investment Management investment servicing, giving us unique insights which help us attract the industrys brightest minds who create powerful strategies for a countrys investments which are used to build neschools to build more bright minds. Invested in the world. Bny mellon. Customer erin swenson ordebut they didnt fit. 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They claim it is for conspiracy of the United States of america. President mark muckler of the groups that this is possibly more than a double standing. We know this double standard exists and there will always be there. Think we we know that the public knows that we have this little trust in the media. But what we have is calling for political oppositions to be charged with crimes arrested and are incarcerated. That happens is you criminalize your political enemies and its outrageous for them, especially like move on. Org to have that on their webpage. Charles in some ways it makes sense. Its a step do you consider all the Media Outlets that blame the republicans for. People have already combed through the coverage of it. And it is amazing one faction of the government could have shut down the government. There were many opportunities keeping this open. Many opportunities to make this a different course of history. It makes sense that this will be the next step. The underlying narrative is definitely that its the republican fall, but they were clear all along are they had no intention to shut down the government and what they were doing was standing with the majority of American People. And the republicans stood up for the American People and try to rid the nation of this bill that they hate this is calling for them to be incarcerated and truly that is a scary next step. Charles it is a scary next step and i dont want to mitigate that at all. So what do you make of this . 40,000 people sign this petition. And they have actually signed up for this and that isnt angry under corn that could be explosive and certainly dangerous. It actually scares me that the idea that 40,000 people would be willing to incarcerate those who peacefully oppose some political or and that is a dangerous precedent it allows the encouragement of this behavior. Charles dumbly then we take it back and go full circle. And we have that organization and a lot of people look up to this and they are actually encouraging the work that could be out there. I can tell you where the media is. Most folks in the media and the polling shows that they support the Democratic Party and anything that the Democratic Party does and actually that they like the idea of incarcerating people like this. I am no great fan, but the idea that we would criminalize and incarcerate people like that are executing on the constitutionally impose duties to do this, that is scary and the media should stand to get this. Charles mark, thank you so much. Thank you for having me be one early we heard that some topdown democrats have admitted to being a train wreck. But basically they are now ignoring it. The scary truth coming up next [ banker ] sydney needed some Financial Guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. So we talked about her options. Her valuable assets were staying. And selling her car wouldnt fly. 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Charles so did the media ignore a major story in the last few weeks remap the Research Group reporting that for every 100 stories covering the government shutdown, there was only one covering the house law. So was the media protecting the president . Adam lashinsky is here to hash it out. Believe it or not, im going to defend the media a little bit on this one. I think the republicans aired in trying to draw attention to obamacare via this strategy, which along with democrats led to the shutdown and then the debt ceiling stand up. Of course that is the type of story that will include a lot of media attention. Oh, my goodness, we are on day nine and 10 of the shutdown. That is now out of the way things are this bad temporary deal. Charles are you saying that the republicans try tried to manipulate the media and it backfired on them . Not just a manipulation. But some thought that the best way to draw attention to the failures of obamacare was to engage in this impasse. I know it took two people to tango. At the end of the day that probably detracted attention away from this story more than it would have if they had let alone and stood back. The media has done a decent job of covering this train wreck. It is glaringly disastrous that they cannot avert their eyes and there is no big shiny object that will distract. Charles i must tell you that the media has covered the obamacare thing almost in a way that it is a disaster because there is a lot of demand for it. Even by covering it, it felt like they tried to put the best face on it that they could. I was all set to disagree with whatever you had to say and i agreed with what you said. But you are making a meta point that i think is wrong, which he said that the republicans tried to get people focused on obamacare as part of the fiscal conversation thats not exactly what they tried to do but they tried to link the two and that was where they went wrong. Thats where they got into trouble. To your question, i dont think the media is ignoring the obamacare train wreck. The train that is not obamacare, it is the technological rollout of this thing, which will get corrected. I read a couple of paragraphs of it before i started to feel sick to my stomach. The republican effort to derail obamacare before has a chance to even get going is the story, not that this is hurting people. Charles well, emphasizing one point. The media writes about news and the allegation that Small Businesses are being hurt by the obamacare rollout, that is not news. Charles i guess it wasnt news when they said that we will have to cut employees ordered pizza we just read about this. Here is the thing. Even you have to admit that 36,000 people signing up for this program after a week and after all of the attention and the millions and the president s signature achievements, that is news. How are you going to get from 7 million to 36,000 . I am assuming you read about that in the Mainstream Media and not tell you know it. I agree with you. That situation definitely needs to change. No argument whatsoever. A couple