I have done the math. The doubling premiums you promised would stay low. What is mean is limiting their options for care when you promised they would still have plenty of options for care. What is mean, is saying you can keep your have, when you cant keep your doctor. What is mean forcing young people to pay up for coverage when maybe they cant afford that coverage. What is mean is saying government subsidies will help when they havent or plenty of state exchanges will have their back when they can. What is mean, premium increases that keep soaring. And coverage keeps shrinking. For one party to claim the other party is all bad, that republicans are the ones who concocted a mess theyre trying to fix, that is a by the rich. And a lot wrong. Then to add insult to injury here we have Nancy Pelosis remarks that hundreds of thousands of people will die. How does she know that . What does she base that on . Media gloms on to it accept its a given. That is mean and cruel the height of reville. What is mean and cruel of height of evil to lose sight of some of the stuff going on with the Health Care Law as is. Any of the problems with it dont have anything to do with the offerings republicans are coming up with a new revised offer coming up hours from now. Premiums have doubled, tripled in most states across this country. It has everything to do with higher deductibles t has everything to do with limited coverage. It has everything to do with people getting coverage at the price they want, they have higher upfront costs to keep it within their budget and means. That is reality. Who is zooming who . To the federalists bree peyton. Im hardly a apologist for republicans and their plan. I have ample differences way they approach it, just obamacare light than obamacare very different. Having said that, death thing, thousands of people werent going to die . Werent democrats making fun of death panels. This is that on steroids. What it forced people to buy insurance plans they didnt want, premiums which increased, one of my coworkers who has an obamacare plan, her premiums went up 96 this year. It also expanded medicaid which a lot of doctors are accepting less and less frequently because reimbursement pennies on the dollar for what Health Care Professionals should get paid for their services. Very clear this narrative is just completely false. The media is focusing on it and pushing it because it fits the narrative republicans are mean. Honestly to this point, obamacare light, i think only mean aspect of the Republicans Health care plan, it doesnt bo far enough to repeal obamacare. Instead what it does, it throws billions of dollars in corporate welfare to Insurance Companies to deflate premiums couple years to win another term in the house and another election in 2020. Neil you costep back on that, i will pursue this next couple hours, bree, that democrats won the argument. They won the argument that the government will be in one way, shape or form in charge of health care. The only difference is deagree is which it is. That bothers me, it thes is in stone something that could easily spiral out of control. What do you think . I think youre completely right. Leaving aspects and skeletal framework of obamacare in place chipping away aspects of it will cause more problems down the road for average americans like you and me. I think a lot of the narrative we are seeing, that this is just tax cuts for the rich, et cetera, et cetera, is really completely false. I expect the congressional budget analysis were anticipating to come out later today is just going to be a partisan hack job, just like their analysis of the house version of the plan was. Neil what worries me about these analyses to your point theyre based on supposition. I dont fault the cbo, dealing with data the best way it can, but doesnt exactly have a great track record. Right. Neil the fact of the matter it is guestimating how many people will not have insurance or fewer americans will have insurance as a result. If you take the away the requirement you have to have Health Insurance, good many people, particularly young people, say to heck with it, im opting out. Leaving that aside it is trying to get some level of Cost Containment here. Even things like medicare, started at 65 million a year now it is a trillion Dollar Program and then some, it can get out of control unless you put some sort of limit, caps, recognize basic math ahead of that. Yeah, youre totally right. I mean for every dollar in taxes that we pay, nearly half of that dollar goes towards Entitlement Programs, including medicaid. So any sort of program like obamacare that expands medicaid and exacerbates that problem and rushes us towards, you know, impending doom and death in terms of the deficit, in terms of the budget, in terms of just completely going breakfastter is honestly a lot meaner than reforming medicaid and fixing the problem. Neil wellsaid. Continue one at a time. I want to go to a doctor, family in emergency medicine doctor. Doctor, one of the things i keep hearing again and again on this notion that people are going to die as a result of this. Thousands according to nancy pelosi. What do you make of that argument that because republicans are tightening up some eligible requirements here a lot of people are going to die . Assuming prior to this coming along people were dying left and right . That is a bit of an exaggeration, neil, it is completely inappropriate to put fear in minds of all patients in america. Look, i said in this before no one in this country should be denied medical care because they cant afford it or forced into financial ruin or bankruptcy because they cant afford it. I understand it is not a constitutional right to have health care, but it is morally and ethically right to provide medical care to our neighbor especially those most vulnerable, our children, elderly, those disabled. Will it ultimately directly kill patients . No it is not. You know what . We have what is called an emergency room. No one is denied medical care in an emergency room in a emergency situation. Neil where do you think she got that, nancy pelosi got notion of hundreds of thousands of people will die if this bill passes, based on what . Sometimes the fear you can put in the mine of patients and voters might alarm them, might see some changes there but i think that is inappropriate. I think what needs to happen democrats to need involved, need to be proact he tiff and not react he tiff. They need to negotiate and work with the republican counterparts. Neil do you think, doctor, that, you also run a practice, you have a business to run as well, that this attempt on the part of republicans, there will be several of them. Were told another revised plan is due out later today just on the senate side, that it is accepting at face value that the government will now have a role in health care . Are you okay with that . Right now, that is just something thats happened for many, many years, since the 1950s, 1960s. But what theyre trying to do now is shift control and give power to the states. Theyre trying to do that. Theyre trying to give more power to the states. Neil is that better for you from your perspective, doctor . Is that better because it is more local, more regional, more to the needs of the patient in that area . You know what . If the government is helping Fund Medical Care for patients, federal government is helping, so they have to have some part of it but they are doing right thing by trying to shift the power to the states, trying to stablize insurance markets. Trying to strengthen medicaid. In addition to that, preserve preexisting coverage. A lot of things that people are forgetting stay on your Parents HealthCare Insurance until age 26. Those with medicaid will not lose their coverage. When they say medicaid cuts, theyre talking about looking into the future to reduce expansion. You know with the economy, with growth, with tax cuts we may not need continued expansion of medicaid. That is a step in the right direction. Neil doctor, thank you very, very much. To the doctors fine point we should stress cuts have a different meaning in washington where you dont go in reverse on this you just slow the growth in the medicaid budget. Many people argue that will not compensate or keep up with patients and demands. Nothing is being cut here. Nothing is being reversed or being cut. Just the rate of growth is. Why get into those nasty facts. Freedomworks says problem is republicans are not doing enough, but actually theyre growing to far on all of this. He joins me now. Adam, your you view here republicans are playing to the tune that democrats already had with the Affordable Care act, just presumably a lighter, slightly leaner version of it, right . Yes, and when i take a look at all the campaigns going back to 2010, every republican has run on obamacare repeal. Mitch mcconnells famous line, well repeal this thing root and branch. Neil right. That is what the electorate wanted. When you get here to d. C. , this is a perfect example of the swamp of the swamp coming in to preserve a government program. Neil you automatically, look, just callous and mean and like a real sob when something people have gotten used to in the last seven years, youre telling them that went too far or well scale that back. All of sudden youre doing the nancy pelosi thing, killing hundreds of thousands of people. No one bats an eyelid. Accept it at face value. We cant accept the Current System at face value. Obamacare is collapsing. Im hearing story of our activists their premiums are beginning to rise up and up and up. Heritage foundation said up to 66 of health care increases since 2013 have districtly attributable to obamacare. We have to stop the bleeding. First do no harm. Go back rip obamacare out. I would be happy change the bill in twoways, go back to the 2015 repeal obama himself vetoed. Or just that, the meadowsmacarthur amendment back in allows states to opt out of title one, we could have this battle in the states. Neil meantime it is what it is. Republicans will try to regroup and at least in the senate come up with a more acceptable version, moderates, those who are concerned about medicaid and related cuts, but medicaid itself good example of program supposed to benefit 4 to 5 of the medical population, now over 40 . That is not sustainable. It is not sustainable. It is our Fastest GrowingEntitlement Program right now. Were talking about moral issues. It is not moral to bankrupt the United States. I am a Firm Believer in freemarket capitalism. I believe the market can be a tremendous amount of help here in lowering costs by increasing choice. But when you look at our current path right now, it is not sustainable. If you were the chinese and youre designing a poison pill program for the United States, our Health System is what they would probably design because we are absolutely hollowing out our future by programs we can not afford. Neil wellput. Thank you very much. Adam brandon. Thank you. Neil i keep mentioning these nancy pelosi remarks, put them in perspective, if you accept face value what she is saying this is going to kill hundreds of thousands of people, by definition you have to accept her argument, hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved by the Health Care Law, prove it. Someone please prove it. Issue i will be raising even though he head as Different Department with dr. Ben carson tomorrow on coast to coast at noon on this very fine show. What is at issue here. These same old arguments exist. He encounters a great deal of heat, how he wants to run housing and urban development, make the housing we provide for the poor more productive, so they are not always poor. They have a chance to aspire to Something Better rather than just the government. Well have more after this. [vo] when it comes to investing, looking from a fresh perspective can make all the difference. It can provide what we call an unlock a realization that often reveals a better path forward. At wells fargo, its our expertise in finding this kind of insight that has lead us to become one of the largest investment and Wealth Management firms in the country. Discover how we can help find your unlock. Neil all right. Not a tweet. A statement from President Trump who says the Supreme Court decision on this travel ban is clear victory for our National Security a big win by 90 vote, essentially means the Supreme Court will rule on this in october. Or at least hearing oral arguments on them. Probably a month after that an outright decision. Something keeps in effect most of the broad parameters of the president s travel ban, essentially reversing two different appeals courts tried to slow it down, not stop it. Blake burman with the latest reaction. Reporter neil, for weeks on ends for months, when the white house is asked, they have taken the position in face of lower Court Setback after set bark, look we feel this is legal. We feel it is within the president s bounds. They feel they have stayed within the lines on all of this. The statement that they just put out, as you just summarized expresses just that we expect to hear from White House PressSecretary Sean Spicer offcamara in a little bit to get a little more perspective from the white houses point of view now that this ruling has officially come in. No doubt about it, this is a temporary win for the president as the Supreme Court will take up this issue again in the fall at some point. Though they do say, as it relates to the here and now, that part of what is put on hold is whether or not somebody has a bonafide relationship with the u. S. Here is part of the Supreme Courts ruling. They say, and i quote here, an american individual or entity that has a bonafide relationship with a particular person seeking to enter the country as a refugee, we do not disturb the injunction. That says as is. However, here is what the big win is for President Trump and the white house this is the part that allows the travel ban and refugee process to be put on hold, stay in that manner. The very next sentence goes as follows. They write, quote, when it comes to refugees who lack any such connection to the United States, the balance tips in favor of the governments compelling need to provide for the nations security. The two words at the end, nations security, which you saw the president in his statement just reference. As for the way going forward, neil, it is expected that the president will implement parts of this, narrow scope within the next 72 hours. As i mentioned Supreme Court will take this up probably in october in the fall. A few of the justices gave a little bit of insight how they view all of this. As justices thomas, alito and neil gorsuch took issue with the scope of this, as to how they kind of narrowly focused the scope of this, the Supreme Court. Either way a win for president and administration on this day as we await official comments from his press secretary to half hour, 45 minutes from now. Neil thank you very much, blake burman. We have the former chair of the house intel committee, congressman pete hoekstra. Congressman, very good to have you back with us. What do you think of this . Interpreted as a early win. We dont know how the final decision will pan out in the fall, what do you make of it . It is good to be with you, neil. There are four areas where this is very, very positive. This clearly from the Supreme Court sends a message to the lower courts, get out of politics. At the next level, im always concerned about the level of power that the presidency has but im concerned the president , the office should have the authority to implement these kind of actions to keep america safe. Third, i think the policy was right, and at forth level, yeah, this was a win for donald trump. So i think on a number of Different Levels this was a good day for the country and for the president. Neil pete, i was looking at the decision, im no lawyer, but i wondered they already thread the needle very judiciously, if you dont mind the play on words and let this stand as final decision. We like what the president is doing. Understand what he is trying to do. We dont want adversely impact those with connection or ties or either family or business here and leave it at that, wrap it up, call it a day. Instead we have to wait until october. I dont think they have had arguments and all of that but well wait for october. But the die is pretty much cast direction alley where this court is leaning. It would have been one thing if this was a 54 court. But unanimous decision by the court. I think sends a strong message on all of these levels. Neil youre right. They could have just said well take this up in october but they were quick to hasten here, that we are now putting back a lot of the stipulations that the president had with this in the interim. Let me switch gears, if you dont mind, congressman, talk a little bit about the fact that republicans were told hours away from senate rework, doover, not completely a mulligan, but close to it on the health care thing to secure more votes before the july 4th recess i assume. What do you make of that . They seem to have a real Battle Royale on their hands . They do. This is a very, very difficult fight. This is not at all a surprise. Mitch mcconnell roughly knew he was going to have some defections. He now has kind of a, he gauged the Playing Field and said okay, ive got to go back. I have got to do a mulligan. I have got to make changes to