Im Dagen Mcdowell in for kennedy. A huge day for President Trump. The commanderinchief in europe ahead of his meetings with the worlds most powerful leaders, an wasted no time framing his trip as a chance to push american values, and to make his case that the civilized world is in a fight with threats across the globe. The fundamental question of our time is whether the west has the will to survive. Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost . Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders . Do we have the desire and courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it . Dagen the president made those comments in poland where he said the bond between the u. S. And europe is stronger than ever. He made news saying he stand behind article 5 of nato which states an attack on one member of nato is an attack on all members. Thats a far try from the president s previous statements. Then he went to germany to meet Angela Merkel ahead of tomorrows g20 summit and his big meeting with russian president Vladimir Putin. As usual the protesters and anarchists were out in force. Lets start with todays speech and the president s call to defend the wests ideals. Ambassador what did you make of the speech . I think it was a powerful speech. There is no question but nationalism rested on cultural forces in the west. And that cultural distinctiveness is being called into question by many of the leaders in the European Union and people in this country. I think we are different in that respect. There are people who question that in this country. So its an important question to ask. And the president is optimistic about it. I would like to be optimistic, too, but i see Many Political leaders who dont think American Culture is that distinctive or worth preserving. Dagen the fact that he stopped in poland before heading on to the g20 summit, and hes standing with an ally . Poland sits between germany on its western border, and removed now after belarus. He says here is a country we pledged to defend. Its what Donald Rumsfeld called part of new york. As opposed to old europe which is so much more oh fifth kaitd and advanced and doesnt value nato so much. I thought it was an Excellent First stop. Dagen how important was it that he made that blatant specific commitment to nato and article 5 in the speech . I think the flack over article 5 is overdone. The president essentially committed to it before. After all the controversy on article 5, it says each nato member will undertake such actions as they deem appropriate. Dagen lets move on to the Putin Meeting. In terms of some of the actions that the Trump Administration has taken so far with regard to russia. Endorsing mont may grows entry was one. Combat deployment in Eastern Europe. The military strike against syria and bashar alassad, a russian putin ally. All of that speaks as he goes into this meeting. What can you expect if anything out of this . I would be surprised if anything concrete comes out of it, and i think thats fine its an opportunity for them to take each others measure. Donald trump looks significantly at personal relationships. He does need to have this kind of meeting. I was more disturbed by what the state Department Said about working together with russia and military operations in the middle east. I hope thats not going to come out of this. While nominally we are on the same side in defeating isis, in terms of the next conflict thats coming, russia is on the side of the assad regimance and worst of regime and worst of all, iran. In the 1970 the so yetds were kicked out of egypt. Dagen it was president obama giving in to russias demands on Missile Defense in Eastern Europe that made putin believe obama was weak. I think thats why poland is a good tomorrow just before the meeting with putin. In light of what we have just seen from north korea, we have much need. Dagen how is the meeting with Vladimir Putin going to go down . Lets bring in our fully vetted party panel. Host of you are welcome and author of dear reader the unauthorized biography of kim jongun, michael malice. We are really sick of each other. I am expecting a full chest bump. But puff continue is shorter than trump so sit might be hard. Putin might have to jump up in the air. I dont think putin will allow putin to appear taller than him. First all he wont have a shirt on. He will show up on a stallion. There is going to be translators. Putin doesnt speak english and trump doesnt speak anything but trump. I dont know what will come out of it other tharntd symbolism. So we should Pay Attention to the imagery. Dagen if somebody has a face twitch or anything like that. The ambassador brought up the fact from the state Department Said they want to get along with russia. I think all of this is mind games. I dont know what to believe at this point. Its psychological. You look at healthcare not going anywhere. Where trump has had his greatest success. And i think hes going to work putin to make the press lose their mind. This is his core competency and he will play to these leftist his tear is that putin hacked the election. Watch him as putin talks about their press problems. And watch the New York Times get apoplectic to the delight of north america. He finds glee in it. It energizes him. But hes like a marionette. Hes a puppeteer orchestrating everything he does. People criticize him for the tweets and the way hes going after the media, when in fact hes shaping the conversation. When he went after cnn, we are talking about that. We are not talking about healthcare and tax reform not getting done. You can bet the same thing will happen when he meets with russia. The more he tweets the more people will go to social media than the networks. He will make the networks look obsolete. I think there is a delicate dance, a relationship, a partnership. I think that they are making money and markets will do great. Dagen journalists are the worst cocktail of arrogance and insecurity. He knows that. Its like milk of mag niece yeah and gin magnesia and gin. A report asked President Trump if russia interest feared in the president ial election. He said it could have been, but then he blamed obama for not doing enough to punish russia for meddling in the election. He was told in early august presumably by the cia that russia was trying to get involved or meddling pretty strongly with the election. He did nothing about it. The reason is, he thought hillary was going to win. If he thought i was going to win, he would have done plenty about it. Dagen should the president continue to blame the former president s inaction . This is a huge winner. Everyone said well have impeachment hearings by the end of july and nothing came of it. The more he stokes the fires, the more he gets people to be apoplectic. Even if they are telling the truth, they seem so hysterical it will turn people away from their cause and towards his. You know you have lost the argument when they go after his mental instability. Its unbelievable that hes able to just stoke the bears. Its a very soviet way of approaching politics. Thats old the school communism. Dagen the wall street journal writes about the Putin Meeting and said mr. Trump should be angry at mr. Putin on americas behalf and he has played into democratic hands. I never get to say the word insouciance on television. They have been pushing the russia hacking narrative since the Democratic Convention in philly because they wanted to deflect from the fact that Debbie Wassermanschultz was stacking it against bernie sanders. Absolutely. But the democrats the members of the party are not on board with this. They finally decided they were not going to go forward with this russian message. Now the message just breaking yesterday, they said bumper stickers, the republicans are winning. The republicans are winning special elections. This is something that should be taken seriously and donald trump i think ed the fact that hes even willing to admit maybe russia meddles is a huge win. Dagen the president had strong words for north korea which tested a longrange missile potentially capable of hitting alaska. The president said they will confront the norths very bad belayer year. As far as north korea is concerned well see what happens. I dont like to talk about what i have planned. But i have some severe things that we are thinking about. That doesnt mean they are going to do them. I dont draw red lines. Dagen should we be preparing for war with kim jongun . Here is another level of evil we are dealing with. North korea insisted on their sovereign rights like america to engage in arms trade. Much of their revenue comes from black market arms sales. They are showing their missiles can go far and showing the missiles to let a one truth side sixpence vein yeah to stand up to the u. S. And japan. Thats something we could stop in terms of we saw, these are secondary preemptive sanctions. This happened a week ago. During the 90s when we hit them with sanctions, kim jongil let up to 0 of miss population starve. This is a up to 90 of his population starve. Dagen i think under the Bush Administration it kind of died down. There was an antiproliferation dragnet. As you say, they are trying to sell these arms to the world. We could stop that. We are treating the symptoms and not the disease, beijing. Dagen how do we deal with beijing . I have no idea. Why is he in warsaw. But using that as a backdrop and saying this is a symbol of hope. This is a symbol of what happens when we come together to overthrow a dictator. Look what we can do together. To me that was a big signal hes not going to go out there and say we are not going to put the United States out there alone. If he thinks healthcare is complicated, good night, what we have to deal with. Dagen china wants us out of northeast asia. China and russia are like this. You throw in iran, thats another axis. How does that affect north korea . North korea is a threat to all of them. Thats where nato and other world powers could work together. I dont trust that donald trump has the dagen china benefits greatly from cheap labor and material. But we dont benefit from having tourists murdered and having to defend that on the world stage. Dagen the party panel is coming back later. Senator ted cruz the latest republican to couple with a proposal in hopes of getting proposal in hopes of getting divided Senate Republicans to you totanobodys hurt, new car. But there will still be pain. 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One that keeps you connected to what matters most. Dagen republicans locked in a stalemate over the healthcare bill. But senator ted cruz submitted a plan to allow companies to sell cheaper policies to Healthy People as long as they offer the complex plans for sick people that meet the requirements of obamacare. Senate leader Mitch Mcconnell asked the Congressional Budget Office to analyze the plan which is a sign lawmakers are strongly considering it. The cbo expects to have their analysis done by next week when Congress Returns from their july 4 recess. Does it have legs . Joining me to discuss it, reason magazines editor. Peter, if you get conservatives on board with it do you alienate centrists in the Republican Party . Politically the cruz plan is an attempt to give something to both side of the aisle it says here, your concern is people with preexisting conditions will still be covered by obamacare plans that include the obamacare regulations. Then it says here conservatives what you get is the addition of more plans that arent bound by obamacares regulations. In theory at least this gives something to every one and thats why people are talking about it as a potential way out of the stalemate. If you talk to senators on the hill, its not clear there is enough support for it. Republicans have 52 seats in the senate and they have to get 50. Its as if we are watching these republican senators throw semi cooked spaghetti at the wall trying to figure out if it will stick or not. In track is, if you think about cruzs idea, this proposal would drive all the Healthy People out of those exchanges. Then what happens financially and logistically with them . This plan would basically turn obamacare plans regulated as obamacare regulates plans into a back door high risk pool. If you are a sick person you are going to buy a regulated plan. If you are a healthy person you will buy a cheap plan that doesnt. The obamacare plans are going to end up being filled with very expensive, very sick people, and those plans will become very expensive very quickly. And what happens under this system is the subsidies provided under obamacare and the gop healthcare bills end up going up in conjunction along with the costs of these plans. So you end up with a very expensive system. However, thats what ted cruz says he wants. He says one of the virtues of this plan is you would have Market Segmentation to make the costs transparent. Dagen i look at a lot of centrist republicans on this issue and there arent donkeys and elephant. They are all just a bunch of hogs eating at the trough. They want government spending. You listen to these gop governors who accepted the Medicaid Expansion under obamacare, they are crying foul over the push to roll back vast amounts of money the states get from this expansion. I dont know how you get all these guys to come together on this. This is excluding the democrats. Senate majority leader Mitch Mcconnell will say we are going to get it done, this is just a distraction, its just noise. But from the getgo, he postponed that vote for a reason because he couldnt get 50 republicans to come together. What this show is is when it comes to healthcare, republicans didnt know what they wanted. Thats coming back to bite them now. Dagen its shameful. They had seven years. Repeal by itself and then worry about replacing it, does that have traction . Well, people started talking about that again. But that was the initial plan going in january. And President Trump knicked that plan nixed that plan because a lot of republican senatorred said we dont want to hope we couple with something years from now. It basically admits you dont have a plan and you dont know if you are going to have a plan. Dagen imagine the chaos if they repealed the Affordable Care act and didnt have anything in its place. Just the chaos in the healthcare industry. Politically this is a big question for republicans. What kind of disruption are they willing to put up with. All the plans we have seen have been tremendously disruptive. But they have not been disruptive in ways that make it better. A certain amount of disruption will be necessary to get us out from under obamacare. If you remember, even Hillary Clinton said i want to keep the good features, but we are going to fix this thing. What republicans are wrestling with is what kind of disruption will they accept and what will it lead to . Right now they dont have an answer to that second question. What are they doing this for . When i hear fix come out of a lawmaker, it just means spend more money. President trump will pete with russian president Vladimir Putin tomorrow. Will putin use his experience as a when i first started working with capital one, my dad called them up and asked for the Jennifer Garner card which is such a dad thing to do. After he gave his name the woman from capital one said mr. Garner, are you related to jennifer . Kind of joking with him. And my dad was so proud to tell her, as a matter of fact, she is my middle daughter. So now dad has the venture card, hes earning his double miles, and he made a friend at the company. Can i say it . Go ahead whats in your wallet . Nice job dad. Dagen President Trump and russian president Vladimir Putin will have their first facetoface meeting tomorrow. Will the two of them get along . And is that a good thing if they do . Joining me is a man who always plays nice with others. Mike baker. Talk about the kind of like psychological press that putin, you are annex spy. Hes annex kgb dude. What kind of preparation would he do in transof meeting with President