Hold mr. Obama himself accountable for what is now a fiasco. Its a decided change of voice and tone within the democratic party. She called on the white house to delay the obama care enrollment deadline until health care. Gov is working properly. Fellow democrats, senator bill nelson of florida calling the obama carolout inexcusable. He told the white house to fire whoever is responsible for the barely functional website on which the Obama Administration spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. Congressman rick nolan of minnesota, another democrat, effectively told the president to grow up and take ownership of the obama care mess and to fix it. Congressman nolan told president obama to quote, man up, let us know who is responsible and who was in charge here and fire them. And tonight, the liberal National Media seems less comfortable with the Obama Administration. The New York Times defending health and Human Services secretary kathleen sebelius, white placing the blame on the obama care disaster clearly on the president. The Washington Post featured a frontpage article today on the alreadyfailing on the health care coops. Created by the government to provide competition for the Major Corporate insurers. Even the cbs and nbc anchors reporting the grim news for this administration. That they usually support and shield from such news. As we have been reporting this new website unveiled by the Obama Administration for folks who want to sign up for Health Insurance coverage, has been a mess from the start. She was touted by the first to earn roll in delaware. Although obama did say it took a few tries. She said it took her seven hours over 11 days. Seven hours over 11 days. Cbs and nbc finally reporting what has become obvious to anyone who watches fox business or fox news. But you may woer where Abcs Diane Sawyer was on the subject. So we were there. Abc news didnt cover the obama care disaster at all last night on its evening newscast. As of this hour, the abc news website is devoid of coverage of the obama care disaster. Ax withnot standing the liberal media complaints appear to be crumbling. My next guest has spend hundreds of millions of dollars, more tax dollars, to fix healthcare. Gov and whatever else is wrong with obama care is like trying to overhaul a car engine. Joining us is congressman tim murphy. Hes a member of the Energy Commerce committee. Great to have you with us. Lets start if we may, i have to ask you here, i mean, do these problems manifest, go beyond the website, this is beginning to look like it may be a complete and utter disaster for the government, for this administration . And for those who wanted obama care . Well, the first part is, your last statement, this is a real hope on families to have Lower Health Care and easy to get. When we were having debates in the energy and commerce committee, it was being touted how great it would be for people to get on these plans. Were realizing now with the signature, make this an important bill is making it unsurmountable for families. We spent taxpayers money on something that didnt work. You know, i think its about time somebody said it plainly, this is pure dumb, this is stupid. And people are talking about accountability, firing someone, i think the problem, congressman, goes much farther than that and it reaches across all of government, were right now confronting an issue that says, this, either the administration itself is too dumb to manage a program, the agency that is sebelius ran, is too dumb. That failure is becoming the routine of the day. With their government. Thats an incomprehensible. The way i word this, from observations, from when i have held in my subcommittee, multiple hearings throughout the year, when someone from the administration would come before us, they would say everything is fine. The fact youre having a hearing, youre slowing us down. As it turned out, they were either woefully misinformed. Perhaps there are so many parts to it they didnt know what was going on. They just kept throwing more and more money on it. Now the white house is throwing more money at it. We dont know if thats going to work. Asking verizon, oracle, expedia, helping them in fixing the site, the administration hasnt been forthright on who hes called in to put this site together. This is the president who declared open is transparency. A lack of transparency and op openness with the American People, i dont think we have to put up with that, do you . When the president in his press conference, i thought that he was going to be forthcoming. Heres the problem, lets define the problem. Define the steps of what was going to take place. Instead it was a description of another way for people to sign up. People should be able to go through step by step, heres what we did, heres where our problems were. We havent gotten straight answers from the staff before, the president is not giving us a straight answer. People are still out there because theyre scared to death, their insurance plans are being terminated. So, compassion dictates that we ought to be moving forward. How do we fix this . Thats what were going to drill into questions. Compassion would insist that our elected officials both in congress and senate, and of course, the president himself take responsibility and take seriously that responsibility to govern, that means to manage this huge massive government that is tour federal government. No one seems i shouldnt say no one very few people seem to be taking seriously that responsibility in the administration. You talked about the number of people losing their coverage. Kaiser today, people who have been pushed out. Individuals inshurg themselves. Having their insurance removed. The Affordable Care act, blue cross and major insurance in philadelphia dropping 45 of its individualacquired policy. 20 to 45 across the country. Can congress do something that this administration will not . Those are the millions of people we worried about that would lose their insurance . Choose the insurances thats right for them. I dont think we would be in this. We were reminded repeatedly by the president , that is the law and it will work. Well try over the next two weeks to help people. If it turns out insurmountable, its a problem. One party voted for this and they didnt want input. It will be interesting tomorrow during the hearing f the democrats want to work with us to solve this or if they want to bring blame up. They may blame george bush. Thanks so much, we appreciate it, congressman tim murphy. Thank you. Have a good evening, lou. The shutdown is behind us. Its time for, yes, another supercommittee. League bust the Government Shutdown is over but the work is just beginning for a group of lawmakers now responsible for coming up with a longterm budget deal by the 13th of december. Joining us is congresswoman diane black. Congresswoman, i got to say, another supercommittee, you all havent had great luck, i would say w supercommittees, why another one. Lou, this isnt a supercommittee. This is regular order. This is what our constitutional forefathers put out for us. Thats what were back to regular order and thats what were going to do. Regular order as to the proceedings, well have hearings and people may know whats going on with the committee, which i think is a terrific idea, i hope it would be followed throughout congress and the senate, of course, but you were also one of the 144 republicans to oppose opening the Government Back up. How is this how is all of this going to work . Because you and patty murray are apart. Thats what the committee is about, its about finding common ground. The senates budget is different than the houses budget. There will be things that we can find in common. I think well both agree, we need to move forward and we need to look at whats best for this country and getting our deficit under control. So, well set those common principals and move forward. That translate into real action and in the nations interest. I thought the president the other day made a splendid speech after his victory over the republicans on the shutdown and the debt ceiling deal, i thought he said all of the right things, but i have heard him say the right things before and republicans say the right things. What do you think the odds are of this committee, supercommittee or the Budget Conference Committee that results from a deal, what are the odds that you can get something done that will profoundly, significantly, meaningfully, stop Government Spending levels at this height and actually curtail deficits and subsequently debt. Lou, im always an optimist on moving forward. The one thing that encourages me we have been able to Work Together on the weighs and means, with both of our counterparts in the house, the democrats, and our counterparts in the senate. We have been working together on taking a road show around the country talking about tax reform so, it can be done. Im going to be hopeful that this can be done. Were looking forward to getting back into congress and working together with our counterparts in the senate. You have been among thoset the forefront of warning about the train wreck that is obama care, its upon us now, 50,000 people have enrolled successfully in the program in almost 3 weeks. This is an unmitigated disaster, the administration refuses to acknowledge that. Although one of the sponsors senator max bacchus warned them of a train wreck and still they moved ahead. What happens next . As you say, we have been talking about this for four, five months. I was on your show and talked about the Government Accountability office telling us that this is not ready. It was not going to be ready. Im really concerned obviously were concerned about people not being able to get on in order to sign up. Im worried about the security measures in this and if this is train wreck in just signing up i cant imagine what its going to be like when we find out about peoples personal information being stolen. Im not confident at all where they need to be in that arena. Nancy pelosi said its a technical problem. Horrifying to the minority leader its also a program m mattic problem. Theyre stunned at what the premiums theyll be paying but also in the case where there are subsidies, not only you people in congress and in the white house will have subsidies, you know, other folks as well, theres a huge deductible for millions of people that they simply never even envisioned, why isnt why isnt there some effort about what a mess this is on the part of the administration . They should have taken up the year delay without question . They should have done that. Theres another piece. My bi, hr 2775, was the vehicle they used to put all of this information into and they corrupted my own bill, they never it passed out of the house where there would be income verification. The Inspector General would verify peoples income. When these subsidies would be given up, theres no true verification. Still the honor system. Still the honor system. What they did, they corrupted my bill to have the secretary just say, oh, yes, she can certify theres some sort of program there to verify the income. We know that the system isnt working. Now were going to trust the secretary we just have a train wreck of what she put forward and there is going to be terrible fraud and abuse in this program because of that. We have just seen so many things that are wrong. We continue to say, delay this, to have verification there, and im telling you, that were going to see just worse things happening as this goes along. We had the same kind of problem in tennessee. Eventually it was just totally repeeled and now, it feels like deja vu at the national level. Because its a mess. Thanks so much. Thank you so much. House Speaker Boehner tells president obama,his caucus gave him a standing ovation. What will they give him next . 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Weve added cuttingedge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a stateoftheart monitoring center, whe experts watch over all drilling activity twentyfourseven. And were sharing what weve learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. Our commitment has never been stronger. Sxwlmpblt our next guest says conservatives need to get a game plan together for the next big contest, and he says they have to go on offense. Joining us former House Majority leader tom delay. Good to have you with us, tom. Good evening, lou. I have to ask you, i talked to a number of folks here on this broadcast tonight, conservatives, republicans, and i get the feeling that there is not a sense that nay need to change the way theyre doing business, do you find that surprising or do you concur . They being who, lou . They being republicans, the leadership, from john boehner to every member of the supercommittee that was formed. I just dont hear people, theyre saying the same things about the budget. Theyre saying much the same things about obama care that led to nothing. Im not sure i understand what youre talking about and what they need to do is change what theyre doing because it aint working, thats for sure. You understaood very well. That seems like the issue. It is the issue. Its really unfortunate it turned out the way it did. I personally believe it was the right strategy, the strategy that we used in 1995 and we won. Not only did we win but we got welfare reform, we actually balanced the budget, we had a surplus. We paid down the debt and its all because we stood strong on principal and we didnt give in. No, you didnt. You didnt. But bob dole did. Bob dole did. We were into it for 21 days and bob dole opened the government. By then, bill clinton knew that we were serious, we brought him to the table, we gave him a few facesaving issues but we still got the budget cuts that the fight was all about and we got welfare reform and other things. He vetoed welfare reform twice. What did the republicans get this time . What did they win in this shutdown . Nothing. Okay. Thats the point. The point being. The fact is, you said the strategy was right but the strategy was extreme it seems to me to the agenda that hey had expressed. No, no. The strategy was right. The strategy wasnt carried out. Remember, the republicans over 30 republicans in the senate caved in and voted for this deal. 87 republicans in the house voted for the deal. If they had stuck and stuck by their guns did like obama did obama did the same strategy but he stuck to it and he won. Obama said, months ago, that he was not going to negotiate and the that he warrantied a clean cr and debt ceiling and that was it. He wasnt going to talk to the republicans. So, do you think the republicans he got what he wanted do you think the republica know how to formulate a message . I got to tell you, i cant for the life of me figure out why they cant tell the American People what theyre talking about, they send out im going to say it this way, with all respect to paul ryan, they keep sending out the same message on the budget, on the deficit, on the debt, and will not go to the next level and articulate a strategy and a message that connects to working men and women to our middle class and theyre being consumed by the chamber of congress and the Business Roundtable in doing so blatantly and obviously. Its not very appealing to most americans. Well, we republicans have always had a hard time on message, you know, its easy for democrats to be on message, because theyre collectivist by nature. Republicans are individualist and they can always say it better than the next guy. Its been difficult to get a message out. I thought that the message was great. Obama care, you come out and you pass a continued resolution and its about defunding obama care knowing that you wont get defunding of obama care but thats your line in the sand and then you compromise to get whatever you can get, that was the strategy. You know what, i have to say, tom, it looks like they fumbled their way into a position, they started with repeal obama care, defund obama care, then theres an equity issue here. Lets make suhuure the individu mandate is put on the same page. They moved to the issue of subsidies for the white house staff and the president and the senators and the congressmen and their staffs. That was the issue, it evaporated with their treatment and their decisions. Well, thats because particularly in the senate, some senators, spent all of their time trashing the idea and trashing ted cruz rather than getting on message and fight this fight. When it started when the fight started, then they shifted the message away from obama care to budget issues. 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