Of American Forces from iraq, president obama announcing more of the military will be sent there. We will spend an additional amount of Service Troops to the area. We will not get dragged into another ground war in iraq. That they are needed to support iraqi and Kurdish Forces with training and intelligence and equipment. Lou the question now is whether the American People and congress will buy the president s plan to deepen the role in the middle east. Especially when fox news poll showed that 57 of americans say the president s leadership is weak and indecisive. 57 . Of the 1 say defeating the Islamic State will require our Ground Troops compared to 27 who say that it can be accomplished with only airstrikes. Twenty us now is one of the men at the center of the war against the Islamic State. And we will be addressing whether or not any other group will be attacking the United States and whether there will be a safe haven. Ed royce, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs committee. Mr. Chairman, its good to have you with us. Was your first reaction to the president statement . One of the ironies here is that we have gone from this team to it now being a threat. The one of the reasons it has become a thread is because of the Kurdish Forces that asked for weapons and were not supplied. They told me that they couldnt get the antitank missiles or the artillery or the longrange mortars that they needed in order to help their troops defeat them on the battlefield. So it seems to me that this has been bungled to some extent month after month by not getting the support to the kurdish people. And at the same time, we could have done those strikes months ago when our embassy requested a and when the terrorists with their black flags flying racing across the desert to take town after town. Why not catch them out in the open and knock out their columns then . So i think that there has been some lost opportunities there. And i think the question is going to be execution because the American Public does not want to pay for this. Lets have them come forward and pay for this. And then the other aspect is we are not going to do airstrikes alone because we have had offers from the australians and the french and the United Kingdom and lets get them to carry part of the burden. The United States should not carry this burden alone. I sen alone. I see this as fighters and i think with them on the ground, we could take a lot of them out. But its going to take a strategy to do that and so far we have not seen an effective strategy out of the administrationspew on the president made it clear that u. S. Air power will be brought to bear against the Islamic State, but also in support of state, but also in support of Ground Troops. Whether they be Coalition Forces or the troops of iraq. Its unclear what will be and in what manner the participation of each nation will be evidenced. The fact of the matter is they say no boots on the ground and can the United States at the antenna spoliation succeed without boots on the ground. I think thats an opening days of the first gulf war. Especially the campaign. There were some 40 degrees out there. 3700 tanks. Tens of thousands of pieces of equipment. All taken out by air power. The difference was this has been, you know, different. 120 flights or so. He had over 100,000 flights targeting these asset until they were eliminated and it became say probably in pretty short order. So part of this is if you are going to go forward and do this, and that includes many other air forces besides those participating, you do with the Coalition Partners and back then if you recall, he got the Saudi Arabians to pay for this and they came up with cash on the barrel head because they felt threatened. We had been invaded, they felt threatened at the time said they were willing and the other partners they were willing to pay for it. So i think in that case you solve leadership. I think you saw direct involvement between our president and these other heads of state. America had credibility. So when we asked these partners, they came on board. And i think its now up to the president to go out and do the hard work of asking the Saudi Arabians to help you do this. Ask them to write the checks and asking nato to come in and help to cover this operation. Lastly, lets get the equipment that they need to be on that battlefield. I dont understand why they withheld these weapons and the other types of weapons needed against isil. So this must be executed in a logical way with a lot of focus. Lou do you support arming the remaining rebels to the regime of the sherman act and what are your views . I know that there is a faction at the same time they are attacking that as well. And those particular units obviously are resisting them on one front and then to the south and so if we put into their hands wherewithal to deal with them and to defeat them, there is a certain logic to that. So i can see Going Forward with this because the president has not come over the last 2. 5 years, done anything to be supportive about. So its something of a surprise tonight to go from two weeks ago we have no strategy to the announcement of a strategy. We are going to hear some of this next week when the committee holds hearings. So lets hear some of the details laid out. But i think it does make sense to support those that are fighting isil. Lou palmerston, we thank you so much. Thank you for being here. Ed royce is the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs committee. And we go to the white house now and chief correspondent ed henry. Its really great to see you. I watch the president for about 15 minutes they are on the floor of the white house right where he announced that it was the president trying to really get tough this time after fumbles. Hillary clinton recently that the same thing. But the truth is that he does have a cost he is one based upon america withdrawing from the World Consumers that, apologizing or heavy footprint over the years and the shrinking our military in ways like syria not getting involved for moderate voices. Officials say that the early part of the campaign have worked from a strategic standpoint and this includes other strategic victories as well. Secretary of state john kerry is in the region right now. In order to try to drum up a coalition by supporting the u. S. In terms of not just airstrikes in iraq, but again, crossing the border into syria in the days ahead which the president authorized. What we dont know how quickly he will move forward with the airstrikes in syria. The john kerry predicted there would be many nations, 40 nations as part of this his coalition. So far there is only nine nations area. Lou a ways to go. Thank you so much. Ed henry at the white house. Coming up next, former army vice chief of staff jack keown joins us. And whether or not it is a viable military initiative. Stay with us because we are coming right back. Musical chairs. Fun, right . Welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. Thats their game. The flights you want are blacked out. Or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. Honestly, its time to switch to the venture card from capital one. With venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. No blackout dates. And with every purchase, youll earn unlimited double miles. From now on, no ones taking your seat away. Whats in your wallet . [ female announcer ] we love our smartphones. And now telcos using hp Big Data Solutions are feeling the love, too. 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Joining us now is fourstar army general, vice chief of staff, general jack keane, chairman of the study of war and fox news military analyst. Its good to have you here. 475 troops. Can you define why we would need another 500 troops in baghdad . We will probably need more than that. What is going to take lazier is the surrogate ground force, those that are now part of the iraqi army in the sunni tribes is well. As they put together a counteroffensive plan to take act the territory that they have lost that isis has seized. Thats a ground counter offensive in we will need advisors down there with them and we will also need your ground controllers. And if the president doesnt push that down there, we will have problems. He will find that theyre not making the progress that we want to make. Lou the ground air controllers to help guide smart weaponry and to select the targets. It means that we will have combat troops with weapons or not and they will be calling in and this includes some missiles that are going to be used in combat. I certainly hope thats what the president is going to do because some of the details, you know, they were not in the speech. Im not contesting that all of the detailers be in there. And the advisers that would move these units would be on the ground. And this includes those on the Ground Forces as well. And so i still see the biggest problems with the strategy is the uncertainty and the underperformance of the ground force. And yet the defeat of isis depends on this performance. Lou with isis, the Islamic State. They have to this point been ruthless, highly effective, mobile and as one, most of the engagements by far have been controlling. And it is occupying about a third of the state of iraq. We have watched american trained iraqi forces simply melt into the sand. And what makes you so sure that this investment and time will work remapped. Im not so sure. And those units that collapse, that is real. They had poor leadership, they have not been doing so since we left, the discipline was not there. When isis attacked, some of the units were down 50 . And the generals fled and they were cronies and hacks that they put in there to support him and to not support the troops. So we have to reconstitute those units and reorganized them. Putting new leaders and as well. And that is going to take weeks or months to be able to get those particular units up. Some of the iraqi units are performing satisfactory right now that they are small in number. Lou we had ed royce talk about the 17,000 fighters that make up the Islamic State army. That large group of fighters and armies is susceptible to certai. And if so how long would it take with the coalition to all of that, how long would it take to destroy those 17,000 terrorist to. I dont know the answer the question. But this i do now. The air campaign is vital. Here is what it would achieve. If we go conduct the air campaign, its unclear when we would begin in syria. We should be simultaneous. Very counteroffensive. Go after them and that entire support infrastructure. Staging bases are there for, supply bases, commandandcontrol, take that down, take down frontline troopers in iraq. Do that simultaneously. What you get from that, you put isis on the defensive. And they no longer have freedom of movement. And they no longer have the initiative. But now we have to finish them all and i could just take weeks. But to finish them off, we need an Effective Ground campaign. If we are conducting a ground campaign, we can do could do it rather rapidly. This is not a large force for conventional military operations. But the fact that the matter is that the surrogate force will really depend upon the big question mark around them. Lou still a large question mark. One of the things that one hopes, and we are basically out of time here, general, is that we will learn from our mistakes. And we have, we have allowed so much treasure to be spent and have accomplished so little. And sometimes in the name of a socalled war, our generals now prepare, are we prepared to go out and kill the enemy and succeed as quickly as possible and achieving something that we dont hear much. And that is victory. The president concerns me because he is not decisive in achieving concrete results. He does half measures and we dont know how much of the vessel was truly full of combat power and all the things that we need. He may pull back the number of advisors. With the strength of the Ground Forces as an example, we could provide troops which would give them a leg up on this enemy. And whether we make this weather it unfolds, with an whether or not we put some of our forces at risk, i dont know. Lou hopefully the answers will appear quickly and affirmatively. General jack keane, its good to see you. Its always good to talk to you. Lou vote in our online poll. You believe that president obama will be any more successful than the Islamic State and he has been in iraq and afghanistan and iran and russia and syria . Cast your vote at loudobbs. Com. Coming up next, a blockbuster report shows the department of justice working in concert with the irs and the democrats on capitol hill to effectively stonewalled the congressional investigation of the irs conservative targeting scandal. That is coming up next neardont have enoughople food to survive. We cant let this happen. There is something we can do about it. Please join Christina Aguilera and yum brands in a movement to fight world hunger by supporting the United Nations world food program. To donate, go to hungertohope. Com or make a text donation right now. Your contribution will feed children and save lives. Together, we can stop the dying and start the living. And together, we can move people from hunger to hope. agent ill walk you guys through every step. There are a lot of buyers for a house like yours. husband thats good to know. Lou coming up at moments, we will begetting analysis and reaction to the president middle east strategy. We have our former pentagon official k. T. Mcfarland joining us with ed rollins and Juan Williams to assess the political implications. Now, a new bombshell in the irs scandal. Saying that he has proof that corroborates the irs scandal. The rise of the chairmans committee, attorney general holder mistakenly called his office to ask whether congressional staffers they are good leaked documents related to the ongoing irs investigation. The Justice Department spokesman wanted to orchestrate that to allow justice to comment on the documents before republicans made them public, not knowing that he was talking to the republicans. Chairman darrell issa says they made the request before he had realized his screwup. Congressman darrell issa is now looking for answers from the eternal general that reads that this effort to preemptively release information undermines the departments claim that it is responding in good faith. And the crisis on our southern border having a big impact on americans who are trying to deal with immigration and a new nbc poll finds a plurality of 35 of americans believe that they will do a better job on immigration than the democrats compared to 27 that said that they would do better than the republicans and that is almost a complete turnaround from december 131 favored democrats to deal with immigration and 26 republicans. And a massive solar flare aimed directly at planet earth today. This xclass flare is the most powerful tie. Storm poses little danger to anyone on earth while saying that impacts to the daylight side of earth are expected to last more than an hour at further effects could be felt later this week if the sunspot also fired off. 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