Transcripts For FBC Making Money With Charles Payne 20170516

FBC Making Money With Charles Payne May 16, 2017

Cia director mike pompeo. Earlier today National Security advisor h prrks mcmaster. What the president shared was appropriate. The story combined what was leaked with other information and insinuated about sources and methods. I wanted to make sure to everybody that the president in no way compromised any sources or methods in the course of this conversation. Foot New York Times reported that israel is the source of that intel. So what is worse, a rick best commanderinchief or illegal leaks meant to under mine the presidency. Gillian turner, former cia open re5 Michael Baker and byron york. We have the ateam. It takes my breath way. Byron this information from the New York Times on general flynn is according according to two people who read the memo. Now, we have these unnamed sources and of course the post story which broke last night sat about this time was all spoa based on Anonymous Sources. Why should we believe these Anonymous Sources against general mcmaster who were actually in the room . Byron these are two separate stories. The comey story is ominous. It says the comey made a men i after every time he talked with the president. Engaged in First Interstate force or obstruction of the stress nation. We think we know enough now there will be has been enough alleged publicly to bring the director back and ask him to testify. He should come back to the congress and share what he knows in terms of the president s conversations with him on any of the russia investigation. I think we ought to ask for the notes that were taken contemporaneously or shortly after those meetings and if there are any tapes as the president alleged, those should be obtained by the conscious. If necessary we should seen a them, but hopefully we can obtained the materials voluntarily. On the heels of an allegation that the president himself acknowledges that he brought up in the context of the director that he was the subject of the investigation in the context of reports by associates of the director, that he was asked essentially for a loyalty test to the president and now why allegations that the president urged him to essentially drop the investigation of michael flynn, enough is enough. Congress needs to get to the bottom of this. We did have an opportunity to inquiry further about the reports of the discussion within the white house with the Russian Foreign minister and Russian Ambassador. I dont have much i can share in terms of our discussions on that i remain concerned about allegations that the president shared information with the russians that was not vetted in advance by the intelligence agencies. Its one thing to do this as a profit interagency thoughts about information that needs to be shared. Its another thing to do it responsible stain yulsly in a way that might endanger sources of information. This more for us to learn in terms of whether classified information was shared with the russians. Thats something general mcmag master was not willing to give today. Im happy top respond to questions. [inaudible] in conway and i are working together very well. We are run can the investigation in a completely nonpartisan fashion. The issues that have come upw are beyond merely the scope of the intelligence investigation and the intelligence committee. I think the Judiciary Committee in the house and senate have a deep interest in this. From my point of view, im not being pro pi consider im not bg proprietary with this. But if he needs to share with the conversations he had where the president over i am peegd or obstructing be the investigation in any way. Do you think the president has credibility to appoint a new f. B. I. Director . I think the president has severely undermined his own credibility the with anything having to do with the russians involvement in our election. I agree with lindsey graham. It ought to be an apolitical choice. I think the ideal profile after cad would be someone who is as retired judge or active judge willing to step down from the judge. Ideally that has prosecutorial experience in the past. But someone that is consistent with the necessity of true independence in that role. So whether the president is credible on the subject or not, the senate has an incredible responsibility of making sure no one is confirmed for that job, that we can have confidence with the fully independent ill say this about why that is so important. There are three primary investigations going on of the russia issue. One in the House Intelligence Committee and one in the Senate Intelligence committee. That being done by the f. B. I. The f. B. I. Has part greater reach that than any committee in congress. They have agents around the world and resources we dont have. We cant recreate with the f. B. I. Can do nor should we try. We need to make sure the f. B. I. Does its work in a thorough and impartial way bout any impediment whatsoever. [inaudible]n at some point do you think President Trump will testify. I think we ought to ask the director to testify. We ought to ask if there are notes taken around the time of the conversation would be powrmful would be powerful evidence of what took place during those conversations be then we follow up from there. If the president was being truthful to director comey that he might have tapes. Well want to get ahold of those. David that was the Ranking Member of the house intel committee, adam schiff. He was responding to this New York Times breaking story that apparently a memo exists from mr. Comey within the former head of the f. B. I. In which he claims mr. Comey claims according to this memo, and accord to two people hop read the memo. That President Trump said referring to general flynn webs a good guy, i hope you can let this go, referring to the investigation of general flynn. The white house has denied the thrust of that memo there they said while the president has repeatedly expressed his view that general flynn is a decent man who served and represented our country, the president has never asked in comey or anyone else to end any investigation including any investigation involving general flynn. They go on, this is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and mr. Comey. Back with our panel. Im sorry i interrupted you at midsentence, byron. What do you think of the latest from mr. Schiff. Byron those are fairly measured words. From democrats you will hear about obstruction of justice and impeachment. This is comeys revenge. The story has come out that he did write a memo after every conversation with the president. The message is i have got more. The New York Times said an associate of comey read part of the memo to the times reporter. Meaning comey has distributed this for the purpose of getting it out. We dont know what else there is, this this is pretty bad right there. David the other big story of the day, it involves of course a dispute between the way general mcmasters saw the meeting and the way certain sources saw that meetinger. Reported on that meeting later. You know general mcmaster. Whom do you believe snow calls the New York Times report false. Would you believe him or the sources that have quoted by the Washington Post . I would totally believe general mcmaster. His credibility in washington is almost unparalleled. Thats thats why there was bipartisan enthusiasm for his nomination. But night he more secretary tillerson dispute the fact that there was classified information disclosed. We give classified information to the russians about isis reason any frequently. But it was offhand, then maybe there is a few more National Security concerns it wasnt preplanned and well thought out. David somebody is leaking classified information to the Washington Post. That in itself is a crime. But have we gone the point where perhaps the leak is worse than the substance of that leak . Without knowing exactly what was discussed with the meeting with the russians its hard to say. It would be nice to think if some intrepid Investigative Reporter who look into the Anonymous Sources coming at us. 9 precedent is not new. Previous administrations inadvertently have provided classified information that in the past including the Previous Administration actually dig potentially outsource it. So this is not unprecedented. Its just at a certain point we are going to run out of oxygen with this breathless drama going on, and its all based on a lack of discipline in the white house. These are a series of selfinflicted bownds woundsind wounds that never seem to end. Israel apparently was the source for the information that the president talked about. If you are going to believe the Washington Post account. Israel has responded, assuming that the leaked stories are true, israel said they still have full this is acaredding to the according to the ambassador. Israel has full confidence in our intel sharing relationship with the u. S. And looks forward to deepening that relationship in the years ahead under President Trump. If the leak happened and it came from israel, israel is not too upset about it. I saw that statement put forward by ambassador dermer and that is to be expected. I dont think if the israelis were june set with the United States that they would go public. The intelligence connection between israel and the u. S. Is airtight and it will take more than this to upset it. Even if it has been disturbed by President Trumps disclosure. Any fallout from this will get hammered out in a close hold tightflit group of people. Even in spite of political leaks coming out of the white house and the Intelligence Agency and the National Security community. I think its probably right. Hes probably right there wont be a tremendous breach into the relationship. But we cant take it at face value. David you are not allowed to leak classified information. Thats what the leakers themselves say, it was classified information the president was leaking. Do we know the motive or do you suspect the motive was to undermine the Trump Presidency or was it serious concern about National Security in bayh there are a lot of byron there are a lot of people in the white house and out of the white house who want to get the president. In the Washington Post story, the most alarmist with quotes came from former officials which is probably Obama Administration officials. It appears the president made a mistake. Severity of the mistake is still in question. We dont know how serious it was and what damage it would cause if any. So thats david the seriousness depend on how it is played by the media to a certain extent. If israel does not consider it to be a security concern, we have to take them at hair word for it. But the way the Washington Post and newspapers and media played this indicated it was huge. And it might be coming from people whose single interest was to pawned mine the Trump Presidency. There is the hair on fire media world and the actual world. Intelligence agencies around the world will evaluate this if it did come from israel, the israelis will evaluate it. The best thing read about this is relations and sharing between all these countries will continue because they need us more than we need them. We are really big and they need american intelligence help. So in a few weeks we can see what if any effect this has. Its not a basis for hair on fire hysteria. David we have another addition to the panel, Judith Miller wreaking in on this. Judy, there is a problem i have. Watergate was a great story, it was very different because it started with a crime. So part on the crimes we have seen here are bleeks coming with regard are leaks coming with regard to classified information. When you have a onesource story, last week Rod Rosenstein it was alleged according to one source in the justice department, that he was going to resign because he was so upset at comey firing. It turns out he wasnt going to resign. Thats what he said when he was finally caught up with as a reporter. The Washington Post has huge headlines based on one source that turns out to be wrong. And it moves the media narrative in the wrong direction. There is something wrong with that. I understand where you are coming from and your objection is understandable. But look at what adam schiff just said to our audience. Look at what other republican senators are saying about the potential seriousness of this leak. Lets look at the legislatorring getting to have these briefings. I think the problem. When you and i were working for newspapers, i was working for the journal. You were working for the times. I was rarely allowed to use Anonymous Sources. If i did i had to back it up with enough information to prove it was a valid source. The rosenstein story had dramatic appearance all over the airways was based on one anonymous source that turned out to be wrong. One source anonymous with a potential grudge is unacceptable. But i dont think the flynn story in the New York Times and the comey memo about the firing. And i dont think the story about the meeting with the Russian Ambassador is based on one source. David they are clearly based on Anonymous Sources who want to and mine this administration, the Trump Administration, are they not . They cutly are. Even they absolutely are. Even adam schiff is a democrat, a Ranking Member on the House Intelligence Committee. He has an interest in limiting the power and success of is administration. On the New York Times story, the issue was why wasnt Andrew Mccabe shown the memo other quoteunquote associates of mr. Comey saw. If it was that big an issue, why wasnt mccabe given it so he wouldnt snoip front of congress and say there has never been interference in the investigation. So that strikes me as curious. Dave there are gillian turner, its clear the president needs a staff that isnt trying to undermine his purpose as commanderinchief. Isnt it necessary for House Cleaning to take place to get rid of obama toldovers who do not want this president to succeed . Yes, and thats the way every Single Administration who assumed the white house manages the situation. There is a large percentage of staff at the white house probably somewhere at 75 or more cycle out at the end of the administration, whether its democrat against democrat or democrats against republicans. The problem we are seeing now is as a result of some damaging things that transpired during the course of the campaign. President trump assumed office with a target on his back from the Intelligence Community and the media. Im not blaming either of those things on either party. There was an inherently damaged dynamic from the day he took office. Part of what we are seeing is the president trying to work through all those damaged relationships and its happening publicly. David well be right back. Stay with us. [vo] when it comes to investing, looking from a fresh perspective can make all the difference. It can provide what we call an unlock a realization that often reveals a better path forward. At wells fargo, its our expertise in finding this kind of insight that has lead us to become one of the largest investment and Wealth Management firms in the country. Discover how we can help find your unlock. Another major story we are following tonight. North korean that could be expanding beyond nuclear warfare. The rogue regime could be behind the global cyber attack that held at least 300,000 computers hostage in 350 countries starting friday. Largest extortion attack ever recorded. Feeder, was this a north korean attack . It is absolutely hard to 100 determine that. The reason being, the scale of this attack was over 822 million new nalg ware coming in daily. Its hard to follow the code and have 100 certainty. But its not going being ruled out in all my years of experience. David at what percent certainty would it demand some response from us. I think thats a billion dollar question in this instance. The think the google guys found the Lazarus Group link which is tied to north korea. But i agree with mr. Tran, this great difficulty following the code in this instance. This has been some of what an amateur hit. The whole concept or the whole idea of ran stop ware is to ransom ware is to raise money. It started from way understand, 50,000. David the point here is that would be a cover, penal who suspect north korea would have used that money extortion threat as a cover for the real intent which was to hit us where we may have points geared their, cbm launches. If this was actually a ran tomorrow ware attack, these guys would be trying to get funds or extort money out of people. They havent been delivering the codes. It was amateur hour. This a twitter bot out there that follows only three bitcoin wallets dpload there. Thats suspicious. The current count is 71,000 u. S. Dollars. Davi

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