Mastermind of terrorist attacks in europe. A new video, from isis threatens london, rome and washington, d. C. Im trish regan, welcome to the intelligence report. French Police Believe these two men are responsible for orchestrating three teams that targeting six sites across paris. 23 people are under arrest and dozens of weapons have been seized from suspected islamic terrorists. The attacks started friday night. They killed 129 people. Injured 350 more. The first explosion rocked a soccer stadium at 9 20 p. M. It escalated with shootings at popular restaurants and with the soccer stadium and 9 30 gunmen went into the pat at that clan theater and opened fire and killing 89 hostages. The french president is demanding new powers not only strip citizenship of those involved but expel foreigners who pose a threat. As much as 2,000 french citizens it is estimated have connections to jihadist cells. Additional 3800 people have sympathy to islamic extremism. Clearly france has a problem. In contrast to the president of france hollande, president obama is sticking to his plan to open up our borders here in the United States to Syrian Refugees despite the the reality that we can not fully vet them for their terrorist ties. Joining us right now is former u. S. Ambassador to belgium, ambassador howard guttman, along with congressman peter king, republican from new york. First i want to go to Deirdre Bolton who is live in paris with the very latest on the ground there. Deirdre, they say 23 people may have been connected to isis in this attack. And youre so right, trish. You gave those great stats which paint a picture that certainly illustrate the problem. When you mention that many people, what experts are telling me, this really represents a shift in isiss strategy as well. That is to say, they were able to use people who infiltrated the french system, the belgium system, and many of these were planned from abroad. Isis is not only trying to inspire attacks if you like through social media but seems if theyre carrying them out. You gave statistics trish, and others are significant. Youth unemployment in france is 25 . For young men. That is a lot of people sitting around with not much else to do. The french government at times tried to be generous with benefits. At times it is better not to work. I have economists who say that will be clearly reviewed. A lot of people with extreme ideas getting paid to sit home and to formulate plans that end up hurting the people around them as we have seen here friday night. So im this is near two of the incidents that you were mentioning, trish. There has been essentially roundtheclock vigils. You can probably still see behind me as well as very heavy police presence. As you said, there are still a manhunt underway bustles. Trish 5 00, risk reward. Do not forget to tune in. Deirdre is live there at 5 00 p. M. Eastern. We have breaking news. Another governor right now, the governor of arizona, doug doocey, saying he will not allow Syrian Refugees into the United States. As weve been reporting less than six weeks from now president intends to allow as many as 10,000 refugees from syria into this country of the big concern is exactly how do we vet these people. Of course one of the terrorists in the attacks there in paris is said to have come into europe, via greece on syrian passport. It is very challenging, given this environment that were in to say, yes as americans we will take all of these thousands of people into this country. I want to get to our guests right now. Belgium is very much in central focus. It is being considered a breeding ground of terrorism. Terrorists are being hunted down there right now as we speak. With more on this investigation is the current u. S. Ambassador to belgium, ambassador howard guttman. Thanks for joining me, ambassador. Im former u. S. Am bass are do. I was ambassador from 2009 to 2013. Trish let me start by ask you, why is it, former ambassador, guttman, belgium is such a hotbed of terrorist planning . Much like the United States when we had our immigration of irish and italian, belgium had a large immigration of moroccan muslims and turkish muslims that basically built infrastructure of belgium. That built the bricks and mortar. Now you have got second and Third Generation but you have, you heard some figures about youth unemployment until france. It is higher in these neighborhoods in belgium. The youth unemployment, in molenbeek, the seen of most of the activity today, is above 30 . 800,000 muslims are in belgium. The last eight years, mohammed was number one name of newborns in brussels. Trish mohammed was the number one name in brussels the past year . Last eight years. That has been true of rotterdam. There are many cities in france where that is true. You have large muslim populations in western europe. Trish and they feel disenfranchised. Most of them are wella simulated. Largest group, unemployed, is disenfranchised. Trish how do you go from being disenfranchised, being unepemployed to blowing yourself up to kill hundreds of people . I tell you what happens in this case. They were sitting around in molenbeek. Then assad used chemical weapons on sunni kids that got coverage here and coverage in europe, that created outrage. Most of people that left belgium, four or 500 young bell gums went to fight in syria. They went to fight shia and assad chemical weapons against sunnis. Once you get to sunni you cant tell the goods guys from the bad guys even with a scorecard. There are sunni moderates, sunni radicals. You have 2 to 300 returnees on streets of bell up g military trained. They have fought against isis with the shia and they are hard to track. Trish i do wander how much the caliphate factors into this as well . You have seen such a rise over the last 12 months in isis recruits. And i do think, curious to get your thoughts on this, this is in part stemming from the fact that isis has a place to recruit to that caliphate in syria . Well, that they have a foothold, yes, but really these people are now back in europe. You see there was brother connection, going pack to his brother in medical len beak. Molenbeek. Connection to disenfranchised young muslims. Unless you get the community all oaf them, unless you have ties to community you will never be able to do it with Belgian Security force. Takes 10 belgians to cover one person. The Security Force is 200. 500 people have to be watched in belgium. Trish thank you, ambassador. I know you have a catch a plane to brussels right now. Be safe over there. We appreciate you joining us. Appreciate it. Thanks so much. Trish all right, everyone. Isis is threatening cities around the world, including washington d. C. In a new 11minute video. Our president is now refusing to commit Ground Troops to fight isis. Telling reporters at the g20 meeting its a very different kind of war. While it may be different, it is still a war as french have acknowledged. Isis needs to be destroyed in order to prevent more deaths to prevent attacks from reaching our soil. General wes clark, former supreme allied commander of nato, congressman peter king, republican from new york, join me right now with their perspectives. God to have you both of you here. Congressman, king, start with you. When you look at amount of social activity out there, on social media from isis supporters, and i want viewers to see this. This is pretty incredible, most activity actually after saudi arabia and after syria and after iraq is coming from the United States of america. Followed by likes of egypt and kuwait. Congressman, it is clear. We have real problem. What do we need to do to insure americans are safe right now . First we have to put Political Correctness aside. Here in the United States itself shouldnt have groups like Civil Liberties union and New York Times attacking nypd when they have surveillance of muslim communities. Throughout history, when there was mafia you surveiled italian communities. When it was westties, you surveiled irish communities. There is a threat coming from the muslim communities in this country. 99 of the people may be patriotic. The fact a threat is many coming from the communities. They dont always cooperate with the police. I have seen it in my district, four or five al qaeda operatives were arrested and they were not cooperating. Profile something needed in your view . I would call it common sense policing if youre looking for muslim terrorists you look in muslim neighborhoods. You dont look in irish neighborhoods or italian neighborhoods of the you look where the threat comes from. That is common sense. Racial profiling means you look at certain race or religion that they might carry out a crime. If theyre selfidentified muslim terrorists you look in muslim communities. That makes sense. Trish we have nine states, could soon be 10, waiting for governor the North Carolina. Forgive me, it is 10, the governor the arizona said we i will not take refugees from syria. The governor of North Carolina were awaiting his decision. General clark, president obama wants to admit 10,000 refugees from syria in less than six weeks into our country. In your view is that really the right step to be taken given the Security Threat we now face . First of all, i think we can vet these refugees. Theyre not coming in without vetting. Well know who they are. Most of the people that will come into the United States have educations. They are doctors, they are lawyers, they are engineers. They have done things and theyre looking for an escape. Trish refugees are doctors, lawyers, engineers and you think they can be vetted . Thats right. They can be vetted. Now, it would be much better if we could establish an area in Northern Syria where the refugees could stay, under the leadership of the free syrian army. And the Syrian Opposition leaders. But to do that were going to have to get a ceasefire. Well have to have some Ceasefire Monitoring force on the ground. Trish well i mean you mentioned Northern Syria. Also there are other middle eastern country cost take them. That might be the way to go. Were looking pictures there of some of the children in refugee camps. It is heartbreaking. We are a high main society. We want to do right by the people but at the same time, general, we also have to protect ourselves. What do you think, former head of nato there 1997 through 2000, as you look at european situation unfolding what do you think germany is going to do . They said they would take 800,000. Will they still be in a position to do that given what has unfolded . I think germany will work hard and they are going to vet these people and they will fulfill their obligations. But i think it is also clear that were going to have to tighten up internal security in european union, just as weve done in the United States after 9 11. And were going to have to have an offensive strategy against isis that makes better use of people on the ground. Muslim country who is say theyre resisting isis and fighting against isis. They have got to do it. Trish they do. You know what . All sides need to join together right now. Sunnis, shiites, they need to put all differences aside. This is very much an idealogical war. Extreme islam. Worse than communism ever was in the 80s. At least when you think about it, communist were rational players. These people are barbaric animals, want to kill everyone, based on religion. Let me share with you quote from important article in the atlantic. What isis wants. The author writes, reality that the Islamic State is islamic. Its very islamic. The religion preached by followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations from islam. Congressman king, how do we fight this, when it is all based on this arcane interpretation of religion . We have to start by, doing all we can to protect ourselves militarily, securitywise and attempt to dethem militarily. At the same time we have to get a different message in. That will take more support from the Muslim Community and Muslim Leaders we have seen thus far. If i respectfully disagree with general clark on vetting. I have great regard for general clark. I dont believe we can vet. I am on the Homeland Security committee and intelligence committee. Fbi and Homeland Security say vet something difficult or impossible, there are no databases in syria or no records. When they vet, question people, but they have nothing to verify whether or not theyre telling them the truth. This is different from other refugee situations. I think there should be a moratorium on Syrian Refugees. With general clark, Northern Syria. Trish agreement with number of governors. 10 governors came out and said they will not take the refugees. May soon be 11 with North Carolina. General clark, before i let you go, article 5 of the washington treaty theyre talking about invoking that. What would that mean for our ability to go after isis as a collective group . Article v would be invoked. Says attack against one is attack against all f that were the case and each nation is supposed to respond. So the United States is actually already responding to this. Were bombing. Were doing other things t would enable nato to use its influence with other countries in europe to strengthen their response against isis. That would be an appropriate response at this point. Trish all right. General, thank you very much. Thank you for joining us. Congressman king, thank you so much for all your perspective. Coming up next, president ial candidate Rick Santorum about what to do about refugees. The trish breaking right now, were up to 11 states that are not accepting refugees from syria. We heard from the governor of ohio, john kasich, will not have refugees from syria coming into ohio. Were waiting on North Carolina, the governor from North Carolina giving a press conference. If he would ban refugees, that would put the tally at 12. 11 states are not planning to accept refugees from syria. The president plans to have 10,000 refugees from syria six weeks from now. Joining us with all of this and his reaction, republican president ial candidate Rick Santorum joins us by phone. Senator, welcome. Thanks very much, trish. Appreciate it. Trish the governor of your home state, pennsylvania, just came out and said he will take refugees from syria. Pennsylvania will be accepting refugees. What is your thought on that . Do you believe thats wrong . And if so, what do we need to do about this situation right now . Yeah, i think that is a big mistake. Im here in pennsylvania today. I can tell you folks that i have talked to are not happy about the governors decision. This is a real Security Threat. Isis is claiming that they have infiltrated the refugees. That they have already, people in europe. Obviously the attacks of this weekend prove that is correct. We heard from our Homeland Security that in fact there is no way for us to reliably check to see if in fact theyre isis sympathizers. Clearly not all of them are but it doesnt take all of them. It takes 10,000 or 100,000, a very small percentage, as we saw in paris, eight people can cause a lot of damage in a big hurry. So this is a serious mistake on the part of the president. For two reasons. Number one, bringing people who are dangerous to this country is one but, secondly, we are helping isis accomplish what they want, which is to drive people, majority of whom, i believe are peaceful, driving people out of the region. And, to a place where theyre probably not returned. Isis wants to get rid of christians, get rid of ethnic minorities, get rid of moderate muslims. We should not be helping them. Relocating to a country like the United States which likelihood of these people ever returning is slim to zero. Were in a sense being accomplices of isis by accepting these refugees, christian and muslim alike. Trish so in your view what needs to be done then . How do we we are humane society. You see horrible pictures of little kids there in the refugee camps. Yeah. Trish if cant take them, to your point, questionable whether we could vet them in way to take them. If we cant vet them and take them what needs to happen . There are refugee camps as you mentioned in some of the border states. Saudi arabia has a huge refugee camp that is right now unused. And we could transfer a lot of these refugees to saudi arabia. We should be putting pressure on the saudis to accept these refugees. We should be supporting. Whether it is in jordan or whether it is in turkey or whether it is iraq, we should be supporting them giving Financial Assistance but they should be relocated within the region, so when hostilities cease they can return to their areas to provide better longterm platform for success of a stable and successful future for that region. Trish senator, let me ask you quickly before you go, about security here at home. I spoke with general keith alexander, former head of the nsa and he made the point to me over the weekend and now that Edward Snowden essentially let the cat out of bag and everybody in the terrorist community how the nsa would go about tracking them, it is increasingly more difficult to do so. He said the u. S. Helped thwart 25 attacks in europe by gathering certain amounts of data on europeans connected with terror cells. What do we do in the environment where there is a clampdown what the nsa is capable of doing, while we smallly have a need to make sure americans are safe . I support