happened. >> i've known roger for 40 years. he walked himself into a impeachment. he was a trump person. >> bill: walked himself into -- not impeachment. >> into conviction. had nothing to do. the president had nothing to do with any of this stuff. at the end of the day you can go back and say richard nixon could have beat george mcgovern with a single yard sign. i don't think biden will be a strong candidate and i don't think that's the issue. >> it's not the strengths of the sy it's the actions you take to help you >> you have to prove you. no one has proven it to me or anyone else. >> we're in the middle of this. i need to remind everybody we don't str the transcripts of those calls. we have summaries, redacted summaries. we don't have the verbatim transcripts. >> up quickly we're in the middle of it, yes. but it is going to end. democrats are going to impeach donald trump, he is not going to be convicted in the senate. by the end of january it will
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