this cuts across all party lines and cuts across different administrations. we are at the point now where something has to be done. >> dana: let me ask you about this quote from mike brown, president of the national chicken council. he said that biden's plan looks like a solution in search of a problem. it's time for the white have to stop playing chicken with our food system and using the meat industry as a scapegoat for the significant challenges facing our economy. does he have a point there or is there a real problem of the president is trying to fix in his own way? >> there certainly is a problem. as scott alluded to, this is been alone for a long time. when i took over my operation from a family member 20 years ago, the cattle buyer at the time said he was not coming back to our farm because we did not have enough animals to provide.