as your reporter just indicated there is a lot of movement of russian forces, naval, air, ground forces. mr. putin is trying to -- trying to bludgeon, trying to upset, trying to intimidate the ukraine president and president biden with these moves. looking to see if there is movement, a blink. so far the ukrainians have not blinked and the americans and allies have not blinked and holding firm. i think watching for that is important. >> bill: very interesting answer. here is the troop map. russian troops said to be 127,000. rebel troops 35,000. a piece this morning in the "wall street journal" suggesting that -- is not enough to secure territory in ukraine. along with that you would have a high death count on behalf of