medical doctor married to pastor and involved if her community and contributing to better it in the best ways she knows how, she is not some fringe element that hasn't been engaged in public life. whether you agree with her and this bishop on their view of the bible and homosexuality you should be worried if a statute could put you in jail for two years for insulting someone. there is a lot more at play than just the bible verses. >> bill: they have freedom of speech in finland. it doesn't add up. foxnews.com got a piece by a representative chip roy and tony perkins. the title is war on religious freedom. we must stand up for finnish christians standing trial for their faith. the implications for a growing war on faith in america. do you agree on that point and see a connection there from helsinki to hear? >> we have to look around and see what established advanced communities that we see many western similarities with, what they're doing. we also look to canada and some