don't suit their particular views here. but if that still stands, then how do you rectify that so is it doesn't cost, you know, one dime and bring us into a deficit by one dime, as the president says, well, you could cut the spending or increase the taxes, or you could do both. let's get the read from francis newton the stacy, optimal -- director of strategy. [laughter] brandon arnold here as well, national pax tayers' union -- taxpayers union executive. guys, thank you very much. you have long argued that this package that targets the wealthy the pay for it won't end up having the wealthy as the only ones paying for it. what do you make of what the cbo has found which seems to indicate you either tap the wealthy more, or you move down the tax food chain? what do you think? >> yeah. actually the, the joint