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Maybe at bigger corporations. >> trace: where was the camera when you were confronting this young woman? >> it was my phone, i had one of those ring holders. >> trace: so you had the whole thing right there, you kind of had a camera on you. but it did not just wait or deter her one bit. >> no, she knew i had the phone. >> trace: she knew she was being filmed. that's the whole thing, bill, you wonder well, is it a deterrent? >> it will deter some people. as a former prosecutor, what body cameras do is mostly exonerate the officers. people make outrages al is it -- accusations. >> trace: much more serious crime, this is somebody in riverside county shooting at people, he killed one man. so some of this video if you would. to be have the video of the shooting? he was shooting people and it was -- he's now charged clearly with murder and with other crimes here but you look at this

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