qualified, intellectual, reasonable person who is sitting in this lifetime position. we do not need a political zealot. gillian: jennifer, let me ask you, do you not see any female black candidates that you believe are qualified? >> well, i think that some of the names of the people that he has put forth are folks that have been public defenders, so they're coming in with an initial bias to their political views. and this is not, this is the one branch of government that isn't political. we all have our own political beliefs, but when it comes to the judiciary, you need to be the most unbiased person. and if we look at who he's rephrasing with justice breyer who is a pragmatic decision maker and he's always been an ardent defender of the court's reputation and i think when they're looking at who to replace him with, it needs to