afghanistan. what's been challenging is to hear the president say we have no national interest in afghanistan when we know after watching this for so long, after reading the intelligence reports and hearing report upon report about the remaining isis threat, the remaining al-qaida threat in afghanistan, and how leaving a failed state and that's what it is, there's no government in kabul right now, despite the taliban purportedly being in charge, we know what happens when you're in a region where -- leaving no government is going to leave a vacuum and terrorist groups are going to take advantage of that. you heard leon pinetta say he thinks the u.s. will have to go back in. from my perch, having been going there since 1993, it's very upsitting also to thine of all of the -- think of all the american allies we will be leaving behind. howie: on that point, let me jump in, you have gotten to know
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