28th, is going to come up and i don't think he's going to look so good. howie: he's not some former official, he's the top military officer in the united states. donald trump denounced milley as an idiot, he called bob woodward a sleaze. trump still take shots at you over the first presidential debate says you didn't have control. >> i would say for a landlord, i'm grateful i'm allowed to occupy so much space in donald trump's brain rent-free. you know, i'm not talking about him but, yes, he still wants to talk about the september 29th, 2020 debate. you know -- howie: to the extend it got out of control. where does the fault lie on that? >> we sent some poor unfortunate fox intern who looked at trump interrupted biden, important, me, doesn't matter, 145 times in 90 minutes. i think that's a world record. i think guiness should write him