lawsuit showing a trump campaign wrote a memo debunking some of the wilder claims coming from sidney powell and other trump lawyers and dominion, the voting machine company somehow manipulated votes away from trump, had ties to venezuela but didn't say anything about it so is that major news today? do people still care? journalists obviously do care. >> journalists care about conflict, and we certainly see it here. what intrigues me about bob woodward's new book is what it says about the disbelief on the trump camp, the trump side that he had won the election, and how bob woodward and bob costa paint a scenario there of rudy giuliani being the one who talks trump into the idea of challenging the election and claiming victory, and pushes it and pushes it again. somebody could put that bug in his ear, bill barr and others