And politico and others kept updating what was in and out edit opposing of members on border security, they just cancel each other out and impress of lycee 19th century law with one sewing up to the Vice President , has no power to block of Federal Funds is donald trump pressured mike pence to do and some republicans wanted to be attorneys to talk on National Security grounds but had to settle for bargaining on government devices that was 45 billion in ukraine where the President Biden had asked for all flavors like a bailout, and to mention, extra security for former house speaker, every horrible attack on Nancy Pelosis husband and it is been an absolute lower and they try to keep up with this everchanging monstrosity in the lawmakers just wanted to resell. Im howard and this is media buzz. Ahead is elon musk, is he really giving up his job is twitters chief executive, and the incredibly cozy relationship between the company and the fbi and the democrats on the House Committee voted to write Donald Trumps tax returns public after a long legal battle enjoy getting paid virtually no taxes in two of his four years as president , commentators are divided over this exceedingly rare move. And so, what is the other, some years that he paid nothing and people may be surprised eyepopping to see how the texas debate. Why is so foul is this brings people to question was the irs money people are my donald trump. The fact is that if they can do it to donald trump and if they can do to you unless, and they can do it to some of the other people, you just mentioned, why would americans think it cannot be done to them. Im not sure that making his returns public now, really furthers Public Discourse ultimately be in the public interest. The next thing feels innocence, like the lease trumps worries going to focus on it anyway. Shooting is the outcome i have advised the coverage in detroit, a Senior Editor at Reason Magazine and they think the democratic strategists and founder of Rebel Communications the media obviously is facing a Donald Trumps tax returns see but questioning by democrats the democrats in the House Committee deciding to go public with this is just days before losing the majority. Guest while i think it all about the kind of most relentlessly partisan democratic operatives are looking at the tax returns and going, thats not exciting as i was hoping for an sure, he shows that hes getting paid taxes in the years that he technically suffered economic losses but i dont think there is anything like a smoking gun or like a new avenue of attack on donald trump, we can tag the larger and larger question about that iris russians and talking points about help more irs enforcement of the going to go after people like donald trump you are very equipped with lawyers and legal teams to you know, use the Tax Loopholes and avoid paying and illegally and aboveboard way and the irs and i think many conservatives the lease feel like its going to target smaller workingclass families and but in terms of the National Euro media conversation, okay you got what you wanted and theres trumps tax returns and i dont think it was a lot to it. Howard because a previously to the New York Times we knew that he was going to be much and women better its also had release the tax returns as every major candidate has done over the last four years when he first ran but what is to solve the republican now to take over the house next week from Retaliating Against public figures they dont like. Guest will the retaliation has already happened and we know that there item is investigations and investigations and investigations of that is already happening in one of the things that a divine to be a christmas miracle the coverage with the agreement between the pages fox news in the wall street Journal Editorial Board and msnbc and pbs on the likes of those two and was that essentially, they talked about the underfunding of the irs back only when agent assigned to audit trumps taxes which is why were audited as was required for little years of his presidency and i think that understaffing in the armies of lawyers and accountants come the truck was able to bring to bear that i think it has the opposite effect about and what robbie missing on the American People and they say, we need more irs agent specifically focus on wealthy individuals and their claims of deductions that may not in fact be accurate and true. Howard our first disagreement and yes, even before he was present, there was one agent assigned and so we now know that about the numbers an old truck paid 750 in federal income taxes in 2017, more than 1 million over the next two years when he is making money and then zero, and 2020, when the pandemic it is a robby, Real Estate Developers and operators are able to take these outrageously large the legal actions but i dont see the press playing it that way do you. Guest i dont really see them going after that and i am hearing a lot yes, media guess on all sides about how well may be more irs agents would be a good thing and i would say follow me nows the people and i dont know, do People Pete Felt specially that we need more people to work for the irs. Howard nobody likes to be audited. Guest and i would agree with this, then a very wealthy and powerful people have more resources at their disposal. To actually pay a small portion of their income in taxes we need a simplification of the tax code and people paying fairly what they want to pay i think of something in your market people in the media and everyone should be able to agree on but of course nothing is done in washington as we seek. Howard tax reform is so complicated but it was a scandal in washington is legal as opposed to illinois laura, the media and jeff vaughn this and understandably so, incoming president s are required by law to be audited by the irs while they are in office and that happened with president obama and President Biden did not happen in the first two years with President Trump and joe some democratic congressman complained in the irs does not have an explanation. Guest for the irs and Stephen Nugent was any treasury at the time, does not have an explanation and they did Athlete Number of Agents Auditing trumps tax returns from one three when you think about the failings of deductions needed to be checked when you think about the 400 plus passthrough entities in his complex return coming it is sort of this the striking and it makes it really looks into justify the actions of the house ways and Means Committee and wanting his tax returns so that we can uncover these holes in the irs and frankly we did see some action with the increase in the funny specific to vomiting wealthy tax filers. Howard let me turn now to the heros welcome, here in washington, the Volodymyr Zelensky got what he addressed session of congress and also other from president of biden also about that from the media display equipped. Your money is not charity, it is an investment in the level and security and democracy that we handle in the most responsible way. And robby, he just has this charisma about him and he was speaking in english and he got huge Standing Ovations on both sides of the outcome of that never happens my question is here, we have the press Covering Zelenskyy the Person Of The Year but the reason for his visit in part, is my analysis that kevin mccarthy, and some republicans want to do audits of u. S. Military aid going to ukraine in some cases reduce it and i think thats not coincidental. Guest and yes there is a lot of things very interesting and frankly of the debate in conservative circles in republican circles about what our obligation to ukraine actually is and while we absolutely support them there the invaded side of a party and zelenskyy is a rewrite to ask for support and we have to think about how much support of the American People who are struggling in a variety ways willing to given they are being very charitable and strategic obligation had to do something that we were very clear about the people i think reasonably have questions about how much longer is it going on with the administration pressing for some kind of diplomatic solution the republicans disagree about this, while leadership like mcconnell, is absolutely all onboard is not just ukraine needs, theres a lot of members of House Members may be withholding the support of mccarthy and mccarthy is a little bit more divided on this and so there is a Debate Happening in the republic and circles and administer the media has covered this as full throated leos it ought to and showing is leading the American People know their actual disagreements. Howard double change of theres debate and a debate in Media Circles as well laura, heres a guide was a Sitcom Sarcoma is the sort of risen to the occasion as a symbol of democracy and he was very graceful and grateful repeatedly for the usaid at the same time, said that he needs more needs more weapons like the patriots anti Missile System is a fourth. So this point is that we are not complaining that were facing a cold dark winter because the barbaric russian scheme involving Energy Intersection so a lot of people are without each of our. So a lot of people think that this or think that Volodymyr Zelenskyy is fighting the west battle just means money and weapons are worried about a cutback. Guest i think those are legitimate concerns because we all know National Security is complicated the battlefront maybe in ukraine now, but the destabilization of your socially impacts Americas National purity and economy so folks are right about that this is really an investment in the future and i agree how you can come up with a better you know from central casting a leader, you know when the debate is largely about when that only god like i have about Volodymyr Zelenskyy of what he wears a seas doing pretty good job of persuasion will continue to need to do that as a debate continues to grow within conservative circles which i think the media covered pretty consistently. Is of the only complaint. Howard what is a fair question robby, he did not go full combat and finally, i was was struck by ukrainian general susan and President Biden, thank you, thank you for the aid to my country otherwise my family would not be life and sort of brought it home even though its a break with the usual protocol and when we come back media going haywire over the january 6 committee referring charges against donald trump and the doj in the purely symbolic. Scaper ly and his trusty crew. Were delayed when the new kid totaled his truck. Timber. Fortunately, they were covered by progressive, so it was a happy ending. For almost everyone. [sfx stomach gurgling] its nothing. Sounds like something. When you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Pepto bismol coats and soothes for fast relief. When you need it most. Photo meeting of the house january 6 committee was the greatest since rehash playing short clips from past witnesses within occasional tidbit as this commitment. It was becoming increasingly concerned that we were damaging his legacy. Howard they said the nobody cares about your legacy coming if you lose in the news of the committee that they wanted to make week to the present advance with a criminal referral to the Justice Department trumps alleged offenses which will coverage on an engine msnbc and cnn. Guest in january 6 hearings top it off and so desperate, were they to create drama like some individual member of congress, popping off and telling the department i want you to investigate my brotherinlaw right in these referrals are the result of an 18 month investigation produce over a million pages of records. It was basically a rehashing of what we have seen in virtually every one of these hearings. They simply attach these referrals to it as of the depart of justice could reject this referral and taken were. So you really need solid evidence and Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and i just dont think that they are inciting a riot and all of the things that they have been all of that. Robby a lot of questions about the referrals because the Justice Department is already investigating trump full speed ahead on several counts and it did that move, deserve all of the hours and hours of coverage they got especially on msnbc and cnn. Guest i certainly dont think that it didnt i dont think we learned a lot there was no think that most people even many people who support Donald Trumps policies otherwise, are not happy with his behavior before and during and after january 6th he was held accountable in terms of being impatient almost removed and then by the senate from the presidency and ultimately, if he rose again, the American People i think are the ones who should decide whether he should be president again not the Justice Department and not Law Enforcement and you can think what he did and what he said was very bad thinking guess the question should be taken away from the American People the media absolutely think that it should be taken away from the American People and that in itself a scary to me. Howard i think the Committee Dennis Best work when it had first get revoke and witnesses who either works for him or with him i wanted him to win providing some damaging testimony lesson with the rehash laura but i get it, it is a started no Congressional Committee has arming this referral is a former president. But was is really about with us, grandstanding in getting the members just constantly on tv and doing interviews and adam schiff and the rest of the gang. Guest will conservative media certainly came to the conclusion to do think that it is and what history cannot be repeated often enough in terms of how historic this really was the fact that this really was the first time the president has try to stop the certification as we have history all right here sometimes in order to prevented in the future, it bears repeating and so these criminal referrals are important and i noticed, but there was not a lot of hard and argument the substance of the evidence really was about the politics of it all which jack smith will now have to navigate about death of the Justice Department is grateful for the 845 pages and the copious interviews of those republicans who by and large, stood up to the president and it makes it look much less partisan and he definitely has his work cut out for him as he determines how to prevent this in the future. And of course the Special Counsel not Household Name and i wanted so this video, just shortly before christmas responding to this select committee and then will ask questions of the other side. Guest there was no insurrection there was not going to be an insurrection, and it was made up by these sick people in the Unselect Committee will go down in history as a con job at a disgrace. Howard is a robby, in response to that no insurrection whatsoever and also go there was a lot from Kassidy Hutchinson from the star witness that i think of the hearings and according ross, mark meadows as saying, that he trump knows that its over and he notes that he lost were just going to keep trying and so is that important and what about the former president s dismissal that this is a con job. Guest will leave his imported for the voters to know this and what he said and what he did, and i dont think that it was a plan insurrection i think that you dont can impute enough with his previous actions, making it upset led up to something deliberate what i saw when i was there covering income over the writer they got on a van based on the things that are upset in the moment in the wrong and again, he should be held accountable for the voters from that and the media and elites they want to take the decision away from people and they want to focus on and you know it does fit in have very concerned and a lot of concern that they have about Law Enforcement and the fbi the dhs headset Internet Center to get trump were sing on different subject all these communications between these agents and social Media Companies they should be allowed it to say i think that is very concerning and these decisions being taken out of the hands of the people happening behind the closed doors with unelected bureaucrats are